ordjoe From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 581 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 16278 times:
BOS is totally new, PEK they already go to, but not sure if from HND or NRT. DME and DEL are existing. I would think an MIA flight would be perfect for 787, I could see good loads.
Quoting AA1818 (Reply 2): Is there any service from Japan to ORD at the moment?
They fly the 77W now. It is my understanding that flight does pretty well, I am guessing it will stay a 77W.
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15722 posts, RR: 47 Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 16230 times:
Why is JL installing an old outdated J seat on the 787? It's not even lie flat?
jetsetter629 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 409 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 16196 times:
Quoting AA1818 (Reply 2): Are all of these brand new routes or does JL currently serve any of them? If they do serve them, what aircraft are the 787s replacing?
BOS is the only new route for JL
DEL and DME are served by a 772 and PEK is served by a 763
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15722 posts, RR: 47 Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 15733 times:
Quoting crAAzy (Reply 6): Surprising too ... athough it doesn't specifically mention this in the article. Was this information confirmed elsewhere?
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8739 posts, RR: 52 Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 15674 times:
ordjoe From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 581 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 14713 times:
Quoting threepoint (Reply 10): Or they could fly the plane to Osaka or Sapporo from one airport and return to the other. JL serves both cities from NRT and HND.
I am surprised they are not building long haul from some of the secondary Japanese markets, I could see a 787 working well from some of these cities.
airportugal310 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3062 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 11441 times:
Pretty pumped about the NRT-BOS route...
thoughts on what it might cost to ride in coach? $1200 seem reasonable?
mah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31117 posts, RR: 74 Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 10724 times:
Quoting jfk777 (Reply 16): Quoting mah4546 (Reply 15):
I'm still hoping, but rumor has it AA will operate it with the 77W.
Thats a lot of airplane for AA to launch a route to Japan they can't feed with domestic passengers. Except perhaps from Tampa and Orlando.
It's really not a lot of plane at all. Florida-NRT is around 130 PDEW. And that is just to Narita. 787 is too low density for the fares, which are not particularly high.
laca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3749 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 9222 times:
Quoting jfk777 (Reply 13):
Was hoping for Miami to be in the JAL 787 list of new US destinations.
Perhaps after their fleet grows.
Perhaps we'll also see LAX-NGO/KIX as these were previously served with MD11s once they have a good number of a/c. Seems like the 788s would be a good fit for these markets.
carpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2769 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 9222 times:
Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 8): Seems odd to have one HND route and the rest from NRT. That would involve ferrying airplanes between the two or separate fleets.
The two bases mean most likely differing cabin configurations.
Since BOS, DME, & DEL are all long-haul flights while the HND-PEK is a short-haul int'l flight that could be operated by a common with domestic flights.
JL has posted on their website that they will receive their first 787 in late March, yet the start of the NRT-BOS remains unchanged. They are going to have a very short time between receipt and start of a long-haul run. Not something that occurred previously at this ultra-conservative airline but this is not the same airline it was a few years ago, when it took a good two months of training just to get domestic services started on the 738. I guess we will see if the schedule sticks.
Personnaly, I think the NRT-BOS will not start until at the earliest June.
AeroSafari From Solomon Islands, joined Nov 2010, 60 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7676 times:
Quote: The airline, known as JAL, said the in-flight entertainment system for its 787s will include electronic manga...The carrier is collaborating with major publisher Shogakukan Inc. and eBook Initiative Japan Co. on the service.
A neat feature to add. It will be the first of its kind. How suiting for JAL. Should be interesting to see how successful it is. I know some friends would be more then happen to try it out on the new route from BOS.
Just remember, the sweet is never as sweet without the sour
Cricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2936 posts, RR: 7 Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6394 times:
I've flown JL DEL-NRT-DEL both on JA707J, the smaller loads of a 787 should make the route a lot more viable than a 772, though that said the plane was 100% on the DEL-NRT leg and I was upped to Y+, on the way back, loads were 40% at beast across the plane. The other good thing will be that the 787 will have better interiors than the 777-200ER
25 SKAirbus: I wonder if JL will consider adding HND-LHR to compliment the BA service and the NRT service? Do they still have slots left?
26 carpethead: They would need an early morning (around 0600 local) slot at LHR. Then turnaround departure slot at around 0900/1100 range to fit with the operation
27 redrooster3: Could SAN be down the road anytime soon? No doubt in my mind it has to be for either ANA or JL
28 gstepho: What will happen to the 2 772 & the 763 that will be replaced. Will JL use them to existing destinations or restart old destinations or start new
29 ha763: I expect that 2 more 772s will be sent to HNL to replace the 767. These aircraft will either be reconfigured or replace 2-class 772ERs on other route
30 gigneil: Why the biggest shiniest plane? They could easily operate such a short route with a 772, at least to get going. Will just the best product be enough
31 mah4546: A 772 cannot easily operate this route with a full passenger and cargo load, especially west-bound.
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