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United Announces Doha Qatar Service  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24785 posts, RR: 46
Posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 13913 times:

Effective May 1, 2012

Dubai service extended to Doha


UA976 IAD-DXB 1822-1535
UA976 DXB-DOH 1710-1715

UA977 DOH-DXB 2020-2225
UA977 DXB-IAD 0010-0632

B777s

Becomes 4th city in Gulf region for United.


Press release:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/United...nounces-prnews-1167089870.html?x=0

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From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
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User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 939 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 13867 times:
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UA announces IAD-Doha when Qatar is already on the route????

Newark or Chicago would've made more sense in my opinion.


User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 13839 times:

NICE! I'm digging this UA!


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User currently offlinerdh3e From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1582 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 13838 times:

Quoting g500 (Reply 1):
UA announces IAD-Doha when Qatar is already on the route????

Newark or Chicago would've made more sense in my opinion.

It's really DXB-DOH so any current or future UA flights to DXB will be able to utilize the connection also.


User currently offlinesomething From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 13798 times:

Flying military to the new airbase I see..


..sick of it. -K. Pilkington.
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16810 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 13798 times:

Quoting rdh3e (Reply 3):
It's really DXB-DOH so any current or future UA flights to DXB will be able to utilize the connection also.

IAH with a 787.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 13674 times:

This is very military driven, but I'm diggin' it! Loving United's expansion in the middle east! IAD is the perfect hub to direct this flight from. United is constantly proving (and the merger with CO definitely helps) that US airlines can expand. I wish AA had similar views, they'd be a much better airline IMHO, instead of funneling everyone and their dog through LHR.

UAL


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16810 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 13631 times:

Quoting g500 (Reply 1):
UA announces IAD-Doha when Qatar is already on the route????

Newark or Chicago would've made more sense in my opinion.

GSA traffic is going on UA, and there is lots of US Government traffic to Qatar.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineSulley From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 524 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 13607 times:

Now it's time for IAH-SCL, EWR-HEL/PRG/NCE/VIE, SFO-CAN... Okay, hope I'm not being greedy  

Great news.



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16810 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 13573 times:

Quoting Sulley (Reply 8):
Now it's time for IAH-SCL, EWR-HEL/PRG/NCE/VIE, SFO-CAN...

Add to that:

EWR-IST, EWR-ICN, EWR-GIG, IAH-MUC



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User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 13536 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 9):
EWR-IST, EWR-ICN, EWR-GIG, IAH-MUC

I think EWR-IST, or heck, even ORD-IST would work. Not to mention large Star Partner TK being on the other end of all of that.

UAL


User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4225 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 13463 times:
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Quoting g500 (Reply 1):
UA announces IAD-Doha when Qatar is already on the route????

QR planes are flying out full. It's seems to be a convenient routing to DEL , BOM and seven other Indian cities for folks in this area. And some of my Pakistani and Persian students are flying them as well. They have their own following.

I doubt if United's IAD-DXB-DOH routing will have too much effect on QR.


User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 13384 times:

Quoting Sulley (Reply 8):

Now it's time for IAH-SCL, EWR-HEL/PRG/NCE/VIE, SFO-CAN... Okay, hope I'm not being greedy
Quoting STT757 (Reply 9):
EWR-IST, EWR-ICN, EWR-GIG, IAH-MUC

I think the most wanted routes in the UA network are:

EWR-GIG
SFO-CAN
IAH-SCL
EWR-IST
IAD-TLV



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User currently offlineDogsOfWar From Ireland, joined Dec 2011, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 13300 times:

I'd love to see a IAD-TLV that would rock!

I wish UA would compete with AA out of ORD to Ireland.


User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 13240 times:

Quoting DogsOfWar (Reply 13):
I wish UA would compete with AA out of ORD to Ireland.

I believe they are starting IAD-DUB with their own metal.

UAL


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9481 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 13143 times:

United seems to be developing a mini US government - Middle East route network. Qatar, Bahrain & Kuwait are all US allies. Since US government workers and military fly on US airlines whenever possible, the extra stopover doesn't matter. The only drawback to this is that the US government does not pay for first class travel, but economy loads and fares often make up for it. It is far cheaper for the government to shuttle people back and forth on UA scheduled flights than to pay for charters. UA is getting revenue that otherwise would have gone to World Airways.

On top of that UA makes a killing in change fees off of the Middle East market. I'm not sure I understand why, but overbooking by more than 40 passengers is common on such routes since so many people do not end up flying their normal itinerary and don't show up at the airport.



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User currently offlineual777uk From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 13062 times:

Nice addition to the Middle East UA network that seems to be a gold mine for them. Long may it continue.

Can we speculate, if any other routes will open up that way soon?


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16810 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 13008 times:

Quoting ual777uk (Reply 16):
Can we speculate, if any other routes will open up that way soon?

In that part of the World I'm wondering if UA will try IAD-RUH-AUH or IAD-JED-AUH.



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User currently offlinejamake1 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1005 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 12639 times:

I'd like to see IAD-JNB...


United's B747-400. "She's a a cruel lover."
User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4225 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 12630 times:
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Quoting STT757 (Reply 17):
I'm wondering if UA will try IAD-RUH-AUH or IAD-JED-AUH.

To compete with SV service from Washington-Dulles?

SV has a reputation for awful service -- for both male and female passengers.

If UA can get landing rights in JED and RUH , this might be the perfect opportunity for 787 service into the region

[Edited 2011-12-08 11:22:03]

User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 20, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 12308 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 17):
In that part of the World I'm wondering if UA will try IAD-RUH-AUH or IAD-JED-AUH.

I hope so!

Quoting jamake1 (Reply 18):
I'd like to see IAD-JNB...

I just don't think there's a plane in the system to fly it. The 787-8 won't have enough legs to do it well. The 787-9 does, and the A350 probably will.

NS


User currently offlineMDTrunner From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 12141 times:

Quoting Sulley (Reply 8):
Now it's time for IAH-SCL, EWR-HEL/PRG/NCE/VIE, SFO-CAN... Okay, hope I'm not being greedy

I love these. If there are routes that Delta has that I wish United had it's that. Delta has the ATL-JNB flight, but SA does that from IAD. But NCE, VIE, and PRG are cities I wish United would add. Glad to see DOH though.


User currently offlineklwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2015 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 12007 times:

I started another thread earlier on service to RUH from USA carriers. I would love to see it. AUH is not a very big market however. Maybe they could try Muscat also. I am really dreaming there.

Has anyone considered that maybe DXB needs some help as a standalone route for UA? It must not be easy competing against the behemoth EK.


User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 11912 times:

With these seemingly disconnected flights like IAD-KWI-BAH and IAD-DXB-DOH and potential for Jeddah/Riyadh, how about a Middle East scissor hub that is fed from both IAD and EWR ?

User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2391 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 11894 times:

I think EWR and/or IAH-DXB should be n

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 23):
With these seemingly disconnected flights like IAD-KWI-BAH and IAD-DXB-DOH and potential for Jeddah/Riyadh, how about a Middle East scissor hub that is fed from both IAD and EWR ?

I think we will see IAH, EWR, and perhaps ORD service to DXB in the next several years.


25 klwright69 : I don't necessarily think this is a given truth. The emirate of Dubai is suffering from financial difficulties. Maybe it needs some time to recover f
26 gigneil : Emirates doesn't serve the DC area presently, so I don't think its having a hard time. Plus those planes sit there, and as has been mentioned the US
27 Davescj : I will say I'm impressed by UA making some concrete moves into the Middle East. It looked like DL might be expanding for a while, but that doesn't see
28 avi8 : Is this basically a new frequency to Dubai from IAD?
29 scorpy : No, its a new tag on the existing IAD-DXB-IAD route. Route is now IAD-DXB-DOH-DXH-IAD.
30 CALPSAFltSkeds : EWR-HEL/PRG/NCE/VIE/IST would be possible with 763ER reconfiguration. So would EWR-GIG and IAH-MUC/SCL, but the 763s may sub somewhere to allow 764 o
31 STT757 : UA is reconfiguring 14 767-300s from Domestic to two class International configuration, however it's also been announced that the remaining eight 762s
32 washingtonian : Excited to see United expanding into the Middle East, and signaling that Dulles will continue to grow/ Isn't it really more than 6 because some of tho
33 CALPSAFltSkeds : Thanks for the update on the 762s and correction on the 763ER total. Your hunch may be correct, which would free up some 752s for ORD-Ireland/MAN or
34 TOMMY767 : If you look at ORD-SFO it's something ridiculous right now like 16x a day. I wouldn't be surprised to see hub to hub get replaced by a large frequenc
35 rdh3e : Using your example. I think this has largely happened already. The Thursday schedule right now is 13x daily ORD->SFO with the following: 319 x1 (1
36 STT757 : EWR-GRU and IAH-EZE are both going to the 764, which leaves IAH-GRU as the only remaining UA 762 route to South America. That will probably go to the
37 VC10er : Are the 14 767's being fitted with 2 or 3 class? And are the 8 leaving 3 class Pre merger Intl?
38 laca773 : Too bad about the 762ERs. These birds would be good for routes like HEL, CPN, OSL. Are these flights going out full? That seems like an awful lot of
39 AvSafety46 : I fly the IAD-DXB flight regularly and almost always full. For the most part it is impossible to get an upgrade. I have not been on a flight yet that
40 boilerla : The 16x daily is usually the summer schedule, but yes they are usually sold. In the height of the summer there's even a domestic 744 on this route th
41 CODC10 : 8 outgoing are PMCO 2 class birds. The 763ERs are current domestic 2-class, to be fitted with winglets, AVOD, power, and a J cabin (PMCO BF seat). No
42 staralliance85 : The only way I see this happening if UA already know that QR is joining the *A. UA connecting to QR at DOH offers great connections to the Middle East
43 behramjee : This is primarily done to poach away the high yielding U.S. Govt traffic that currently flies to DOH from IAD on QR however to operate to Doha via Dub
44 Post contains images BMIFlyer : Looking at the timings, they are taking advantage of ground time in DXB
45 klwright69 : I agree with this 100%... My first impression was that maybe DXB is struggling since they are adding a tag. There is something that doesn't seem righ
46 slcdeltarumd11 : To the middle east?!?! DC is the perfect place for this route military contractors, government, military, oil connections from Houston DC is the best
47 ual777uk : I hope you are right, it will be great to get QR into Star Alliance and perhaps then create that mini Middle East hub in there back yard for Star Car
48 chopchop767 : Why let the plane sit idle when it can be used to ferry more passengers to another destination? I doubt the exclusive rationale behind adding the tag
49 STT757 : Two class, they are getting the same treatment as PMCO's 764s (new Lay-flat Businessfirst, new economy seats, AVOD etc..). The 762s are CO's, with CO
50 staralliance85 : UA will most likely add IAH-DXB when they have enough 787s, CO (now UA) has the Halliburton contract. Halliburton has it's headquarters split between
51 mogandoCI : With the later batches, something like SFO-DEL/BOM would also be great since no one is doing it.
52 kgaiflyer : Because . . . . ?
53 MDTrunner : I'm always interested that posters on here believe one company can float a route or make it existence be so. I can understand the Federal Government
54 staralliance85 : Because . . . . ? EWR is more of UA's global gateway hub and NYC meets the demand for a nonstop to JNB. SA would have their nonstop from JFk and UA f
55 STT757 : Why do you think CO, and now UA, continue to operate IAH-AMS even after they (CO) left Skyteam. CO, now UA, has the Shell Oil CO. contract. IAH-AMS c
56 kgaiflyer : Good point. SA flies full planes out of IAD and JFK, so there is demand. EWR simply needs to catch up, and the 787 is the ideal medium for this.
57 Nimish : This would be a heaven send! The EWR-BLR flight should do particularly well due to the great connections to/from other US cities that EWR offers. Wou
58 Schweigend : . UA currently has its code on many QR routes to DOH. I just did a quick search at united.com for flights from IAD and found them codesharing on quit
59 gigneil : I would much rather see United serve the rest of the larger Indian markets from EWR with 787s, and launch the primary ones from SFO as well... That is
60 Post contains images Schweigend : Yessir, so would I! Maybe QR codeshares could then be used selectively to cities with no chance of seeing UA metal (or plastic). Cheers.
61 gigneil : I don't mind either the metal or the plastic. UA is at the brink of being able to do some really creative things.... I think the middle east strategy
62 Schweigend : Yes, we are approaching off-topic territory now.... But it would be nice to see UA serving India from both U.S. coasts -- SFO and EWR. They are on th
63 QatarA340 : I do not think they have 5th freedom as they are not a local airline as the air agreement between UAE and Qatar says. Interesting to see the load fact
64 shamrock604 : They already do, selling seats on EI's daily service, and indeed on every EI service out of DUB and SNN
65 United1 : UA has 5th freedom rights on the route...in fact you can book DXB-DOH-DXB for about $150 round trip right now (dates in July is what I was looking at
66 gigneil : It would be illegal for United to serve Tehran at this time - even if it weren't, the DOT would very cheerfully invite United to shove it where airli
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