UAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 13853 times:
This is very military driven, but I'm diggin' it! Loving United's expansion in the middle east! IAD is the perfect hub to direct this flight from. United is constantly proving (and the merger with CO definitely helps) that US airlines can expand. I wish AA had similar views, they'd be a much better airline IMHO, instead of funneling everyone and their dog through LHR.
kgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4319 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 13642 times:
Quoting g500 (Reply 1): UA announces IAD-Doha when Qatar is already on the route????
QR planes are flying out full. It's seems to be a convenient routing to DEL , BOM and seven other Indian cities for folks in this area. And some of my Pakistani and Persian students are flying them as well. They have their own following.
I doubt if United's IAD-DXB-DOH routing will have too much effect on QR.
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9689 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 13322 times:
United seems to be developing a mini US government - Middle East route network. Qatar, Bahrain & Kuwait are all US allies. Since US government workers and military fly on US airlines whenever possible, the extra stopover doesn't matter. The only drawback to this is that the US government does not pay for first class travel, but economy loads and fares often make up for it. It is far cheaper for the government to shuttle people back and forth on UA scheduled flights than to pay for charters. UA is getting revenue that otherwise would have gone to World Airways.
On top of that UA makes a killing in change fees off of the Middle East market. I'm not sure I understand why, but overbooking by more than 40 passengers is common on such routes since so many people do not end up flying their normal itinerary and don't show up at the airport.
If you have never designed an airplane part before, let the real designers do the work!
MDTrunner From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 12320 times:
Quoting Sulley (Reply 8): Now it's time for IAH-SCL, EWR-HEL/PRG/NCE/VIE, SFO-CAN... Okay, hope I'm not being greedy
I love these. If there are routes that Delta has that I wish United had it's that. Delta has the ATL-JNB flight, but SA does that from IAD. But NCE, VIE, and PRG are cities I wish United would add. Glad to see DOH though.
CODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2460 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 12073 times:
I think EWR and/or IAH-DXB should be n
Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 23): With these seemingly disconnected flights like IAD-KWI-BAH and IAD-DXB-DOH and potential for Jeddah/Riyadh, how about a Middle East scissor hub that is fed from both IAD and EWR ?
I think we will see IAH, EWR, and perhaps ORD service to DXB in the next several years.
: I don't necessarily think this is a given truth. The emirate of Dubai is suffering from financial difficulties. Maybe it needs some time to recover f
: Emirates doesn't serve the DC area presently, so I don't think its having a hard time. Plus those planes sit there, and as has been mentioned the US
: I will say I'm impressed by UA making some concrete moves into the Middle East. It looked like DL might be expanding for a while, but that doesn't see
: Is this basically a new frequency to Dubai from IAD?
: No, its a new tag on the existing IAD-DXB-IAD route. Route is now IAD-DXB-DOH-DXH-IAD.
: EWR-HEL/PRG/NCE/VIE/IST would be possible with 763ER reconfiguration. So would EWR-GIG and IAH-MUC/SCL, but the 763s may sub somewhere to allow 764 o
: UA is reconfiguring 14 767-300s from Domestic to two class International configuration, however it's also been announced that the remaining eight 762s
: Excited to see United expanding into the Middle East, and signaling that Dulles will continue to grow/ Isn't it really more than 6 because some of tho
: Thanks for the update on the 762s and correction on the 763ER total. Your hunch may be correct, which would free up some 752s for ORD-Ireland/MAN or
: If you look at ORD-SFO it's something ridiculous right now like 16x a day. I wouldn't be surprised to see hub to hub get replaced by a large frequenc
: Using your example. I think this has largely happened already. The Thursday schedule right now is 13x daily ORD->SFO with the following: 319 x1 (1
: EWR-GRU and IAH-EZE are both going to the 764, which leaves IAH-GRU as the only remaining UA 762 route to South America. That will probably go to the
: Are the 14 767's being fitted with 2 or 3 class? And are the 8 leaving 3 class Pre merger Intl?
: Too bad about the 762ERs. These birds would be good for routes like HEL, CPN, OSL. Are these flights going out full? That seems like an awful lot of
: I fly the IAD-DXB flight regularly and almost always full. For the most part it is impossible to get an upgrade. I have not been on a flight yet that
: The 16x daily is usually the summer schedule, but yes they are usually sold. In the height of the summer there's even a domestic 744 on this route th
: 8 outgoing are PMCO 2 class birds. The 763ERs are current domestic 2-class, to be fitted with winglets, AVOD, power, and a J cabin (PMCO BF seat). No
: The only way I see this happening if UA already know that QR is joining the *A. UA connecting to QR at DOH offers great connections to the Middle East
: This is primarily done to poach away the high yielding U.S. Govt traffic that currently flies to DOH from IAD on QR however to operate to Doha via Dub
: Looking at the timings, they are taking advantage of ground time in DXB
: I agree with this 100%... My first impression was that maybe DXB is struggling since they are adding a tag. There is something that doesn't seem righ
: To the middle east?!?! DC is the perfect place for this route military contractors, government, military, oil connections from Houston DC is the best
: I hope you are right, it will be great to get QR into Star Alliance and perhaps then create that mini Middle East hub in there back yard for Star Car
: Why let the plane sit idle when it can be used to ferry more passengers to another destination? I doubt the exclusive rationale behind adding the tag
: Two class, they are getting the same treatment as PMCO's 764s (new Lay-flat Businessfirst, new economy seats, AVOD etc..). The 762s are CO's, with CO
: UA will most likely add IAH-DXB when they have enough 787s, CO (now UA) has the Halliburton contract. Halliburton has it's headquarters split between
: With the later batches, something like SFO-DEL/BOM would also be great since no one is doing it.