Actually the X-wind is not so much of a problem- it is the change in wind speed- the gusts.
It can lead to pilot induced oscilation - like the Hamburg video, or this one from Lisbon.
As seen in Hamburg, the limited aileron deflection, is not much of a help in these conditions.
Please don´t you all stop flying here, I´d be out of work!
N62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4942 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (3 years 10 months 8 hours ago) and read 10393 times:
Quoting SASDC8 (Reply 11): Why don't you view the related 10 year old videos from LIS at the Tube, and while your at it have a look at NRT as well
I assume you are saying that I will find similar videos by doing so which will be of equal interest. Thank you for that information.
Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 7): Before clicking on the link I was already expecting this video, which is now almost 10 years old and apparently there are still people around who haven't seen it yet.
Quoting ual777uk (Reply 10): Blimey, old clip or not, lets not flame the guy for posting it, jeez.
Thanks. Some people on here seem to think that a.net is a "closed membership club" and that there aren't new people joining / reading the site every day. In addition, some people on here think that everyone on a.net who dares to post a new topic is familiar with every other topic ever posted on a.net. I think I've made my point without resorting to nastiness.
b767 From Norway, joined Feb 2008, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 10 months 8 hours ago) and read 9066 times:
I have seen several videos where the Airbuses seems a little unstable in the roll axis in hard crosswinds.If I understand correct you dont sideslip with crossed control the way you do in a conventional aircraft.Instead of direct link to the ailerons you commands go through computers which controls rollrate.So if I am correct when sideslipping, instead of crosscontol you have to neutrilaze the stick when you have achived the desirated bank angle. Is it possible that some airbus drivers in a hard crosswind suddenly become stressed and mentally start flying a conventional airliner again?.Could this video show and old 737 driver ,which is not on the top of the situation and where his reflexes are taking over? Don,t know everything about modern airliners,but know a thing or two about human mind.
acidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1880 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (3 years 10 months 6 hours ago) and read 6202 times:
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Quoting N62NA (Reply 14): Thanks. Some people on here seem to think that a.net is a "closed membership club" and that there aren't new people joining / reading the site every day. In addition, some people on here think that everyone on a.net who dares to post a new topic is familiar with every other topic ever posted on a.net. I think I've made my point without resorting to nastiness.
Well put. This video comes up from time to time but even in 2011 we still have people who maybe haven't seen it yet. So I will let it stand. I looked around in past threads and we really haven't had this one posted in a long time. If someone posted this one every WEEK then it would drive us all nuts and I would agree with pulling it.
Here is a crosswind landing performed by Lufthansa in YYC (Calgary, Alberta, Canada) on Nov. 27th. Our proximity to the Rocky Mountains can produce some very strong wind patterns, called Chinooks ("shin-ooks").
kgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4492 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (3 years 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 5450 times:
Quoting rikkus67 (Reply 19): Here is a crosswind landing performed by Lufthansa in YYC (Calgary, Alberta, Canada) on Nov. 27th. Our proximity to the Rocky Mountains can produce some very strong wind patterns, called Chinooks ("shin-ooks").
I admire ANY pilot who lands into strong winds...always an impressive sight!
Tell me about it.
I had flown into Calgary on Sunday November 27th because my 90 year old aunt had bought tickets for some big event at the SAIT auditorium. Driving across the Marquis de Lorne highway to get onto Deerfoot Trail to go uptown, the wind picked up the gravel from someone's driveway and bombed my rental car -- trashing the windshield.
That night waiting to fly back to YYJ where I was staying, several WS planes landed and were serviced by paramedics for passengers shaken up by turbulance.
Earlier in the day, the winds blew out the glass entrance doors of a discount store where I was shopping in Shawnessy.
Since YYC is on an elevated plateau north of the city, I'm surprised there weren't more incidents.
Excerpts from Transport Canada daily incident reports:
WJA 108, a WestJet B737-700, was inbound to Yellowknife on a flight from Edmonton and the crew decided they were unable to land due to a high crosswind component and runway conditions. They elected to return to YEG.
JZA 138, a Jazz CRJ 200, was inbound to Yellowknife and the crew decided they were unable to land at YZF due to a high crosswind component. They elected to return to YEG.