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SFO-Paris In 1980s

washingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4655 times:

What would have been the most likely options for a person flying from San Francisco to Paris around 1985? Pan Am/TWA to NYC/DC and then onto Paris? Or what?

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AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 18886 posts, RR: 64
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4572 times:

TWA via BOS/JFK/IAD were all options in '85. UTA and UA hadn't begun their SFO-CDG nonstops until later in the 80s (perhaps early 90s for UA), I believe.

The morning flight to JFK from SFO was still a 747 when I flew it in September 1985.

BA was also an option via LHR, plus AF via LAX.

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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21498 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4563 times:

Quoting washingtonian (Thread starter):
What would have been the most likely options for a person flying from San Francisco to Paris around 1985? Pan Am/TWA to NYC/DC and then onto Paris? Or what?

It would have been more convenient and a few hundred miles shorter to connect at LHR, FRA or LAX than on the east coast. BA and Pan Am both had nonstops SFO-LHR, LH SFO-FRA, and AF LAX-CDG.

FlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7313 posts, RR: 61
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4463 times:

On September 30th 1986, UTA inaugrated its flight CDG-SFO-PPT with a DC10 ...

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OB1783P From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3986 times:

I am a first generation French immigrant, and my big trip was CDG - JFK - SFO, on November 22, 1980. The first leg was on a 741, and the transcon on a 1011. I believe the whole flight was TWA801. I still recall the overly sweet taste of the lemonade at the TWA terminal at JFK, while watching planes take off and land in the golden afternoon light. I also remember the movie was "Starting Over" on one of the flights.

I've flown thousands of miles and I can tell you it's a lot safer than crossing the street!

AussieItaliano From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 441 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1566 times:

How about SFO-YYZ-CDG (or ORY) ?

I would imagine that a Montreal connection would have been tough since YMX handled overseas flights and YUL handled transborder flights in those days.

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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21498 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1309 times:

Quoting AussieItaliano (Reply 5):
I would imagine that a Montreal connection would have been tough since YMX handled overseas flights and YUL handled transborder flights in those days.

There was also no nonstop service SFO-YUL during the 1980s.

CuriousFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 655 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1244 times:

I did SFO-LHR-CDG on BA, which was an awful airline in 1984. I remember that weird food and those nasty old FAs. I believe they learned a thing or two since.

wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1239 times:

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For a very short time...I think one summer...Rich International had a charter series from OAK through Duluth MN and on to ORY using a DC-8.

Later Corsair flew ORY-OAK-PPT using a 747SP.

AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 18886 posts, RR: 64
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1218 times:

Quoting AussieItaliano (Reply 5):
I would imagine that a Montreal connection would have been tough since YMX handled overseas flights and YUL handled transborder flights in those days.

But in the 60's, LH flew to San Francisco via Montreal, amazingly enough.

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washingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 997 times:

How about this one? When Rock Hudson was dying of AIDS, he chartered an Air France 747 to fly him and his medical team from Paris back to LA. Was this common at the time--a celebrity chartering a commercial jet? I guess this was before the rise of Netjets, etc.

Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21498 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 859 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 9):
Quoting AussieItaliano (Reply 5):
I would imagine that a Montreal connection would have been tough since YMX handled overseas flights and YUL handled transborder flights in those days.

But in the 60's, LH flew to San Francisco via Montreal, amazingly enough.

Yes, but no 5th freedom rights between SFO and YUL..

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