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SFO-Paris In 1980s  
User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5065 times:

What would have been the most likely options for a person flying from San Francisco to Paris around 1985? Pan Am/TWA to NYC/DC and then onto Paris? Or what?

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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20479 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4982 times:

TWA via BOS/JFK/IAD were all options in '85. UTA and UA hadn't begun their SFO-CDG nonstops until later in the 80s (perhaps early 90s for UA), I believe.

The morning flight to JFK from SFO was still a 747 when I flew it in September 1985.

BA was also an option via LHR, plus AF via LAX.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25106 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4973 times:

Quoting washingtonian (Thread starter):
What would have been the most likely options for a person flying from San Francisco to Paris around 1985? Pan Am/TWA to NYC/DC and then onto Paris? Or what?

It would have been more convenient and a few hundred miles shorter to connect at LHR, FRA or LAX than on the east coast. BA and Pan Am both had nonstops SFO-LHR, LH SFO-FRA, and AF LAX-CDG.


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7409 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4873 times:

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User currently offlineOB1783P From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4396 times:

I am a first generation French immigrant, and my big trip was CDG - JFK - SFO, on November 22, 1980. The first leg was on a 741, and the transcon on a 1011. I believe the whole flight was TWA801. I still recall the overly sweet taste of the lemonade at the TWA terminal at JFK, while watching planes take off and land in the golden afternoon light. I also remember the movie was "Starting Over" on one of the flights.


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User currently offlineAussieItaliano From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1976 times:

How about SFO-YYZ-CDG (or ORY) ?

I would imagine that a Montreal connection would have been tough since YMX handled overseas flights and YUL handled transborder flights in those days.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25106 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1719 times:

Quoting AussieItaliano (Reply 5):
I would imagine that a Montreal connection would have been tough since YMX handled overseas flights and YUL handled transborder flights in those days.

There was also no nonstop service SFO-YUL during the 1980s.


User currently offlineCuriousFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 682 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1654 times:

I did SFO-LHR-CDG on BA, which was an awful airline in 1984. I remember that weird food and those nasty old FAs. I believe they learned a thing or two since.

User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1649 times:
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For a very short time...I think one summer...Rich International had a charter series from OAK through Duluth MN and on to ORY using a DC-8.

Later Corsair flew ORY-OAK-PPT using a 747SP.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20479 posts, RR: 62
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1628 times:

Quoting AussieItaliano (Reply 5):
I would imagine that a Montreal connection would have been tough since YMX handled overseas flights and YUL handled transborder flights in those days.

But in the 60's, LH flew to San Francisco via Montreal, amazingly enough.

http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/complete/lh64/lh64-03.jpg



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User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1407 times:

How about this one? When Rock Hudson was dying of AIDS, he chartered an Air France 747 to fly him and his medical team from Paris back to LA. Was this common at the time--a celebrity chartering a commercial jet? I guess this was before the rise of Netjets, etc.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25106 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1269 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 9):
Quoting AussieItaliano (Reply 5):
I would imagine that a Montreal connection would have been tough since YMX handled overseas flights and YUL handled transborder flights in those days.

But in the 60's, LH flew to San Francisco via Montreal, amazingly enough.

Yes, but no 5th freedom rights between SFO and YUL..


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