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User currently offlinewarren747sp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1172 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 6691 times:

I was sitting in the SAA lounge at Lusaka airport on Dec.3rd and was treated to excellent viewing of planes from around the region.
Kenyan Airways B772
Ethiopian B752
Air Namibia E135
Air Malawi ATR42
SAA B738
Pro Air B1900
and the best is President George Bush personal B762.

Zambia is really up and coming and I think the various airlines proves the point.

W


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User currently offlinejetsetter629 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 462 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6485 times:

It's a shame Zambezi Airlines went bust in October.

Quoting warren747sp (Thread starter):
Kenyan Airways B772
Ethiopian B752
Air Namibia E135
Air Malawi ATR42
SAA B738
Pro Air B1900

Proves that there is substantial traffic, but there are only 3 airlines in the South and East Africa market.

Quoting warren747sp (Thread starter):
President George Bush personal B762.

What was he doing there...?

[Edited 2011-12-09 10:45:51]

User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2789 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6450 times:
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Quoting warren747sp (Thread starter):
Kenyan Airways B772

Is there really that much demand for Kenyan Airways to send their 777-200?


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19260 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6380 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 2):
Is there really that much demand for Kenyan Airways to send their 777-200?

Given that the 772 is scheduled to operate to LUN, KQ have clearly determined that there is sufficient demand, whether from passengers or cargo or both, to do that.



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User currently offlineKLM747800THY From Netherlands, joined Aug 2011, 18 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6351 times:

KLM Airlines will start flights to Lusaka starting next spring. It will 3 times a week with the A330-200.

User currently offlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1924 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6281 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 2):
Is there really that much demand for Kenyan Airways to send their 777-200?

They have a lot of cargo, usually is a B767 and also a E190 for the night flight....

Lagos is also another example of cargo heavy flight... usually around 100-150 pax but tons of cargo...


LUN will get KLM 332 and also Precision air B737 DAR-FBM-LUN-DAR.

I also saw Bush B767 in DAR a few days back.


User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2789 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6230 times:
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Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 3):
Given that the 772 is scheduled to operate to LUN, KQ have clearly determined that there is sufficient demand, whether from passengers or cargo or both, to do that.

Really? I thought that they were sending such a large aircraft simply for the sake of passenger comfort...

I was more aiming at having someone with greater knowledge of the market trends in the region to tell me what is the exact reason.
Which I got:

Quoting migair54 (Reply 5):
They have a lot of cargo, usually is a B767 and also a E190 for the night flight....

Lagos is also another example of cargo heavy flight... usually around 100-150 pax but tons of cargo...

Thanks for the answer. I suppose that they also have more premium passengers to Lagos than they have to Lusaka.


User currently offlineRaptors From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4669 times:

Tomorrow's flight leaving NBO goes to LUN and LLW with a full load of PAX split between the two destinations - 772
There is also a 738 which goes to LUN then HRE and this is heavily over sold too!



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User currently offlineFAGC From South Africa, joined Aug 2006, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4456 times:

EK will commence ops with 332 from Feb 1st .

User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2399 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3567 times:
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Didn't know Bush had a personnal 767.

What's the reg ? Is it Bush Jr or Sr ?



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User currently offlinewarren747sp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2798 times:

It's President Bush Junior (who is a true friend of Africa). I don't know if he owns the plane or a charter. But it looks some what official.


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User currently offlineaf022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2175 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2693 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 2):
Is there really that much demand for Kenyan Airways to send their 777-200?

They probably don't know what to do with the aircraft during the day. They have a 777 arriving every morning from BKK, and departing at night. There aren't many markets they can send the 777 during the day.

Operating a triangle with 777 within Africa must be very expensive.


User currently offlineDID747 From France, joined Apr 2005, 411 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2642 times:
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Bush is the owner of a 767? a joke!!!


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User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2789 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2474 times:
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Quoting af022 (Reply 11):
Operating a triangle with 777 within Africa must be very expensive.

That was my thought too but I guess that cargo makes it worth it...


User currently offlineSetjet From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2099 times:

I have some doubts regarding president Bush's 767:

- Never heard that he has one, but, this could theoretically be true. Registration would prove the point.
- "President" Bush? I thought there has been a new president since 2008...
- "Friend of Africa"? As far as i know the only country outside the US that Bush junior has been was Canada. And even after presidency his passport is propably pretty empty...


User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6372 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2033 times:

I cannot believe how much Lusaka has grown. I remember going there as a child and it was nothing...I remember going back a couple years ago and it had really grown in traffic. Cannot imagine what it looks like now...I need to find an excuse to head back down Zambia way!

User currently offlineluckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 2234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1982 times:

Quoting Setjet (Reply 14):
- "President" Bush? I thought there has been a new president since 2008...

Typically a president is referred to by the title President even after he is no longer in office.


User currently offlinejmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3315 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1873 times:

Would it be safe to say that LUN and Zambia in general has benefited from the economic, social and political meltdown in Zimbabwe as a result of Robert Mugabe's rape of the country? I remember when my father visited Victoria Falls in 1985, he said he felt safe on the Zimbabwe-side of the bridge, but the Zambia-side was a different story. From my personal experience there in 2003, and from what I've read, it almost seems like the complete opposite is now true.


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User currently offlinenotaxonrotax From Ecuador, joined Mar 2011, 540 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1771 times:
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Quoting KLM747800THY (Reply 4):
KLM will start flights to Lusaka with the A330-200.

That is one good looking plane! Nice!
Will they be able to fill an A332?
Range wise, could they upgrade to A333; with time?

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