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First CO 757 With E+ In Service Yesterday  
User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 14434 times:

The first of the 41 pre-merger CO 757s started flying yesterday in its new configuration of 16-45-108.

All 41 will be complete by the end of January.

Its flying UA 8 tonight to LHR (12/9), and will fly EWR-DUB tomorrow. (12/10)

NS

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User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2699 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 14359 times:

Are you sure? According to FlightAware this aircraft appears to have had a few days out of service about 10 days ago. It left LAX today 1:21 late as Flight 16

Mobile UA shows that is aircraft 0107 and the seat map shows 159 Y seats. If this is a Y+ bird, then the seat map is off. At this time all the rows forward and including the exit rows have people seated in them. Maybe either row 11 or 12 (shown full) is really blocked, but showing occupied. My guess is that row 14 should be the row removed by Y as it is the last row before the The only Y row that is completely empty is row 38.


User currently offlinewarreng24 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 14070 times:

Quoting gigneil (Thread starter):
The first of the 41 pre-merger CO 757s started flying yesterday in its new configuration of 16-45-108.

Tail number?


User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 14046 times:

I don't know the tail number, but I'm certain about the flight schedule info.

LHR today is what is _supposed_ to have happened. I can't promise it did. I can promise it did domestic turns yesterday and today.

NS

[Edited 2011-12-09 19:20:22]

User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2699 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 13714 times:

It looks like the aircraft is aircraft 0141. It is flying right now on flight 62 EWR-MAD. The seat map shows no row 14.
Recently it flew on teh below flights, maybe indicating the seat reconfig was done in MCO.
12/8
1170 MCO-EWR
1618 EWR-TPA
1492 TPA-IAH
12/9
1160 IAH-MCO
1261 MCO IAH
62 IAH-EWR-MAD
It looks to me that aircraft #130 is now in MCO, arriving at 0944 12/08 and has not departed. If this is the second aircraft in the reconfiguration, we'll see how long it takes until flown out of MCO.

[Edited 2011-12-09 21:56:48]

User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 13567 times:

I figured there was plenty of opportunity for schedules to shift...

There are 3 reconfiguration lines open at MCOMX... should be quite the show to get them all done so quickly. I wonder when 3 will be in for service at the same time, first...

NS


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5913 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13198 times:

Quoting gigneil (Reply 5):
There are 3 reconfiguration lines open at MCOMX... should be quite the show to get them all done so quickly. I wonder when 3 will be in for service at the same time, first...

I could do that mod alone, all by myself in about eight hours, so it should be no difficulty getting the very capable CO MCO MX crew to pop these 757's out an lightning speed.
Okay, I exaggerated a little bit... but only a little bit.


User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2304 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13169 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 4):
It looks like the aircraft is aircraft 0141. It is flying right now on flight 62 EWR-MAD. The seat map shows no row 14.
Recently it flew on teh below flights, maybe indicating the seat reconfig was done in MCO.

MCOMX did Acft #141. Acft #134 is in now at MCOMX for Economy+ refit. Acft #530 is awaiting a LiveTV STC for the new Boeing Sky Interior. Acft #215, 216 are in for C checks. We have been seeing some of the pre-United p.s. 757s coming through. Those interiors are interesting.



UNITED We Stand
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16892 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 13038 times:

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 7):

MCOMX did Acft #141. Acft #134 is in now at MCOMX for Economy+ refit. Acft #530 is awaiting a LiveTV STC for the new Boeing Sky Interior. Acft #215, 216 are in for C checks. We have been seeing some of the pre-United p.s. 757s coming through. Those interiors are interesting.

I'll be flying down to MCO with the Wife to spend Christmas with the Mouse, hoping to see a very active MCOMX ramp.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineSHAQ From Panama, joined Jun 2007, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 13014 times:

Does PMUA 757 will be reconfigured in International standard?
Or they are too old to be used in TATL operations?



Studying hard, for flying right!
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16892 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 13002 times:

Quoting SHAQ (Reply 9):
Does PMUA 757 will be reconfigured in International standard?
Or they are too old to be used in TATL operations?

Only 14 of PMUA's 757 are ETOPS, and those are needed to operate to Hawaii from the West Coast. So no PMUA 757s to International configuration.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2304 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 12801 times:

Acft # 130 is leaving shortly with Economy+, Acft # 132 just came in for Economy+ refit.

Acft #130 looks roomy.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 10):
Only 14 of PMUA's 757 are ETOPS

It's actually 16, with 7 of these also having winglets, unless those few that have been returned were also ETOPS.

[Edited 2011-12-10 08:34:49]


UNITED We Stand
User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2699 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 11471 times:

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 7):
Acft #134 is in now at MCOMX for Economy+ refit.

Are you sure? It looks like 134 flew MCO_EWR last night as Flight 76.
From what I see from your posts, it looks like the only completed units are 130 and 141 with 132 arrived MCO. I'm posting this on the UA/CO upgrade thread. CALTECH, please correct or update that thread.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5913 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10133 times:

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 7):
Those interiors are interesting.

I flew on one for thanksgiving travel- "Interesting" doesn't even begin to describe that airplane.
Door trim panels falling completely off on the L2, window reveals falling off of the sidewalls, bulkhead coverings hanging down, seats torn up..... made me SO GLAD to be flying the new UA.... grrrrr.
I may stick to PMCO routes/aircraft for a while.


User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2304 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8940 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 12):
Are you sure? It looks like 134 flew MCO_EWR last night as Flight 76.
From what I see from your posts, it looks like the only completed units are 130 and 141 with 132 arrived MCO. I'm posting this on the UA/CO upgrade thread. CALTECH, please correct or update that thread.

Pretty sure it is in for Economy+, think I saw it in the hangar and computer. Will double-make sure tomorrow.

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 13):
I flew on one for thanksgiving travel- "Interesting" doesn't even begin to describe that airplane.
Door trim panels falling completely off on the L2, window reveals falling off of the sidewalls, bulkhead coverings hanging down, seats torn up..... made me SO GLAD to be flying the new UA.... grrrrr.
I may stick to PMCO routes/aircraft for a while.

I meant how few seats were on the airplane. Seeing that cabin is interesting. As far as the interior condition, give it time, it will get better.

The North Hangar is overflowing with airplanes, I do believe 132 and 134 are in this picture.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm233/CALTECHphoto/PDRM0063.jpg



UNITED We Stand
User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5913 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 8701 times:

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 14):
I meant how few seats were on the airplane. Seeing that cabin is interesting. As far as the interior condition, give it time, it will get better.

If they're sending the PMUA birds to you in MCO, then I am confident that it WILL get better!
I can't imagine what the culture at SFOMX has been like for the past few years....


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16892 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 8625 times:

Question, how do the PS 757s get to MCO for MX. Are they ferried down from JFK or do they fly in on a revenue flight from LAX or SFO?


Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineflybhx764 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 267 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 8442 times:

Ship #141

CO #022 - 10 DEC EWR - DUB
CO #023 - 11 DEC DUB - EWR
CO #1146 - 11 DEC EWR - PBI
CO #1175 - 11 DEC PBI - EWR
CO #094 - 11 DEC EWR - BFS
CO #095 - 12 DEC BFS - EWR
CO #020 - 12 DEC EWR - MAN
CO #021 - 13 DEC MAN - EWR
CO #110 - 13 DEC EWR - LHR


User currently offlinebeachbum1970 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8356 times:

Does anyone know if these reconfigured CO aircraft are getting the United seat covers, carpeting and bulkhead designs?

User currently offlineSulley From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 536 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8312 times:

Quoting beachbum1970 (Reply 18):
Does anyone know if these reconfigured CO aircraft are getting the United seat covers, carpeting and bulkhead designs?

I hope not!!



In thrust we trust!
User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2304 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8302 times:

Quoting beachbum1970 (Reply 18):
Does anyone know if these reconfigured CO aircraft are getting the United seat covers, carpeting and bulkhead designs?

No they are not.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 16):
Question, how do the PS 757s get to MCO for MX. Are they ferried down from JFK or do they fly in on a revenue flight from LAX or SFO?

I believe they are revenue flights. Will check.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 12):
Are you sure? It looks like 134 flew MCO_EWR last night as Flight 76.

I am sure, Acft #0134 is in for Economy+.



Three United 787s lined up nose to tail.




UNITED We Stand
User currently offlinebeachbum1970 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8176 times:

Quoting Sulley (Reply 19):
I hope not!!

I actually find the leather seat covers quite comfortable. The UA carpet has a nice design too. What is the CO bulk head design? Some of the UA aircraft, mostly the Airbuses and the recently refurbished wide bodies, have the really nice textured metal panels with lower blue carpeting. I think this bulk head design would look great on the CO aircraft!


http://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x460/BeachBum1970/IMG_1012.jpg


User currently offlineCO777DAL From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 626 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 8138 times:

Quoting beachbum1970 (Reply 21):
Quoting beachbum1970 (Reply 21):
I actually find the leather seat covers quite comfortable. The UA carpet has a nice design too. What is the CO bulk head design? Some of the UA aircraft, mostly the Airbuses and the recently refurbished wide bodies, have the really nice textured metal panels with lower blue carpeting. I think this bulk head design would look great on the CO aircraft!




^That photo!!! Oh, h*%& no! First I do not like that hole in the bulk head. I like the separation between coach and First. Those leather seat covers while can be nice, they stretch and tend to look bad and worn easily. Because of this the seats then to look a lot older than they are. The fabric covers CO uses keeps its shape and doesn't show wear as much. I like CO interior. I like lighter blue seats verse dark blue as it gives the cabin a more open feeling. If they did leather, I always found Continental ExpressJet colors and leather to look better than most airline leather seats that I have see. So if they used this seat color I can live with. The only thing I think they should change on CO interior is a lot of aircraft, the passenger control panel above the seat where ac vents are located is dark blue. I think they look better white. I not a fan of the way the First Class seats looks. I like to see some change.

[Edited 2011-12-11 12:36:31]


Worked Hard. Flew Right. Farewell, Continental. Thanks for the memories.
User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 23, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8049 times:

Quoting Sulley (Reply 19):
I hope not!!

Why? The seat covers and etc from United's newer refits are MUCH more attractive than Continental's in EVERY way.

Quoting CO777DAL (Reply 22):
Oh, h*%& no! First I do not like that hole in the bulk head.

You mean the one designed to increase cabin security by giving a line-of-sight view from the jumpseats throughout the cabin?

You're going to have to get over that.

Quoting CO777DAL (Reply 22):
I like CO interior. I like lighter blue seats verse dark blue as it gives the cabin a more open feeling.

The inside of, at the very least, the sCO 737s are so dark and dreary I feel like committing suicide right after. The darker sidewalls and chairs, and lower and imho poor lighting environment on a 737 anyway, make it feel more cramped than it is.

I don't know very many people that like the sCO narrowbody coloring and fittings better than the interior of the sUA Airbuses and the one refurbed 757. Sorry  

NS


User currently offlineusxguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1039 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7954 times:

I also vote for the UA seats ^_^ I've had my share of flights on PMCO 737-8/9 757-2/3 and the Y seats were not very comfortable at all. Although that has more to do with seat vendor than fabric vs leather.


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25 CALTECH : The new United interior colors are nice, but again, the question is, change the entire fleet to this new United color or change half the fleet to the
26 Post contains links and images CALTECH : If the photo wasn't viewable before,.....
27 gigneil : Sadly, I understand the market forces. I might cry about it. NS
28 United1 : Those are required to be there by the Feds...the F/As have to have a certain percentage of the flights total passengers in view during take off and l
29 Post contains links and images CODC10 : I don't see such a dramatic difference that would induce one to commit hari-kari after flying on one vs. the other! Both are complementary enough tha
30 Post contains images gigneil : The difference while on board, in my option, is quite stark. I understand the photos don't quite capture it. Maybe I whine too much. NS
31 Post contains images Sulley : Just to clarify - I thought you both were referring to sUA's un-refurbished 757 interior. I would die! The new interiors on the Airbii are quite nice
32 CALPSAFltSkeds : Update from FlightAware and Continental.com Completed N19141 MCO 12/9 N19130 MCO 12/10 N17104 LAX 12/12 (aircraft was in LAX 12/8-12/12, assume conver
33 bmibaby737 : So it's changing from C16Y159 to C16W45Y108, is that correct?
34 CALTECH : Acft #0134 went out this morning, Acft #0135 is now going through Economy+ at MCO. Acft #0132 should go out tomorrow morning. These Economy+ repitche
35 Sulley : Are you guys moving PSU's around as well?
36 CALPSAFltSkeds : Thanks for the update and I now see that #134 seat maps are correct on today's flights (no row 14) Do you if there's a reason the converted aircraft
37 CALPSAFltSkeds : PMCO 752 conversion to Economy Plus Add 752 #0106 (LAX) and #0136 (MCO) to the list. It seems like the lower numbered units are being done in LAX and
38 Sulley : Why has ship #530 been in MCO since last month?
39 CALPSAFltSkeds : Per CALTECH ealier in the thread.
40 Post contains images Sulley : I'm blind Pish, I was hoping it had the new interior in it.
41 CALTECH : Yes. The PSU's need to be reconfigured, with one removed per side.
42 N1120A : Has nothing to do with age. Most of UA's were ordered with lower weights and lower thrust engines. What? There is nothing about the PMCO interiors th
43 CALPSAFltSkeds : It looks like ac #0137 is scheduled out of MCO today on flight 76 at 1725 and the Mobile seat map shows no row 14, meaning it will have been converted
44 drerx7 : You are right...if the aircraft interior is in top shape. Some are pretty ratty though - time for a refurb. The best 75 out there in the UA/CO fleet
45 CODC10 : I've been told by a very reliable source that there are corrosion issues with some of the oldest PMUA 757s and 747-400s that will likely result in an
46 Post contains images Sulley : Wow... that's a first. You like the yellow "sponge-painted" sidewalls, old galleys, flowered wallpaper in the lavs, CRT screens, and vintage PSU's? I
47 CALPSAFltSkeds : Add AC #0112 exiting LAX today 12/20 on flight 1703. AC #0137 exited MCO 12/19 after two days in MCO, but the seat maps for the three flights after it
48 TOMMY767 : Well now you are just being picky. The sponge painted sidewalls and wallpaper in the bathroom is an easy change out, PSU's aren't noticed by the mass
49 hiflyer : Sure hope these ecy+ pmco 757's are lighter....too many of them not making it from Europe to the States recently...fuel stops from Canada to Boston go
50 Post contains links TOMMY767 : Yeah not good. Many try to point out that the CO 757 diversions are fiction but the CDG-IAD flights are not making it A LOT UA 131 has diverted 6 tim
51 hiflyer : Hear AMSIAD also.....flt 125. perhaps IAD is 'a bridge too far'?
52 CALPSAFltSkeds : Add AC #0137 exited MCO 12/19 (seat maps didn't show conversion, but on recent flights d show conversion) AC #0131 exited MCO 12/21 AC #0139 exited MC
53 N1120A : I'm your father's, brother's, sister's, cousin's former roommate. Not a first. The seats are much, much more comfortable, brighter interiors and more
54 CODC10 : It's easy to substantiate. Why don't you give one of your copious sources in mx a call and find out the story? Ask about the 744s specifically, and t
55 AA737-823 : You can use words like "absolutely" and "terribly" all you like; I was "absolutely" NOT referring to the fittings of the cabin. I was referring to th
56 kfitz : I'm not sure what you're talking about exactly. It's regretful your "couple" of flights had what you consider inferior interior (the same PS flight fr
57 nycdave : That's unfortunate. I definitely preferred PMCO, but I was pleasantly surprised by my recent trips on PMUA 752's. The cabins were badly dated, for su
58 kfitz : I'm not sure if any FFs or corporate travel managers make purchasing decisions over aspects like floral designs of a small lavatory wall, overhead CRT
59 TOMMY767 : Well I don't really hear much about pre-merger United 757s falling out of the sky so I kind of question what kind of faulty MX practices you speak of
60 CALPSAFltSkeds : Back to the topic Add AC #0109 exited LAX 12/19 AC #0110 exited LAX 12/21 AC possibly in MOD or arriving tonight: MCO #0140 (12/25) LAX #0101 (12/25),
61 RyanairGuru : Sorry but I couldn't see this above, what is the seat pitch for the reconfigured aircraft? Is is it 36 Y+, 30 Y?
62 windy95 : And it is killing the on time percentage. Domestic has been doing okay but International is being killed by the tech stops.
63 CALPSAFltSkeds : Well, SeatGuru says Y is 31 and that won't change as nothing changes behind the exit rows. If you take out a 31 inch row, that gives you 6.2 inches p
64 SA7700 : This thread will be locked as it has unfortunately been hijacked and steered into an irrelevant, off topic debate. Rather than gutting the thread it w
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