With Dubai now past and December the final month there is a lot to update before we get the final numbers by mid January, 2012. This is as most accurate as possible though please note some conversions may not be accounted for, just the small 1 or 2 frames that can be harder to track.
This update is through to November 30th for what appears on the Airbus O&D sheet and December 6th for Boeing, the 2 most latest updates published by them.
Air Astana - 6 A319 to 4 A320 and 2 A321
Air China - 5 A320 to 5 A321
Air Lease Corporation 1 A320 to 1 A321
Aer Lingus - 3 A330-300 to 3 A350-900
Avianca - 6 A319 to 6 A320
Aviation Capital Group - 7 A319 and 4 A321 to 11 A320
CASG China - 2 A320 to 2 A319
CASG China - 50 A320 to 11 A319, 19 A320, 20 A321 for China Eastern
CASG China - 30 A320 to 10 A320, 20 A321 for China Southern
CIT - 3 A320 to 3 A321, 3 A350-800 to 3 A350-900
Garuda Indonesia - 3 A330-200 to 3 A330-300
Hong Kong Airlines - 1 A330-200 to 1 A330-300
ILFC - 6 A350-800 to 6 A350-900
JetBlue - 30 A320 to 30 A321
KLM - 1 A330-200 to 1 A330-300
LAN - 3 A319 to 3 A320
Synergy Aerospace - 10 A350-800 to 10 A350-900
TACA International 3 A319 to 3 A320
TAP Portugal - 12 A350-800 to 12 A350-900
Undisclosed - 9 A320 to 9 A321
Undisclosed - 2 A330-300 to 2 A330-200
US Airways - 6 A320 to 6 A321
Other adjustments and notes since last update
* MTAD - Reduced by 1 to 3 from 4 since initial July 25 order.
Jackson Square Aviation - 1 A320
Virgin America - 1 A320
Frontier changed their A319Neo / A320Neo order to 20 A319Neo & 60 A320Neo, announced as firmed though it's yet to appear on spreadsheet so it remains pending.
For those keeping a tab on Neo orders, from Airbus
With these bookings, firm orders for the A320neo Family reached 1,196, ordered by a total of 21 customers
Virgin America, 30 booked December 2010, 1166 on the books this year, 20 customers, that gives you their number of 1196 from 21 customers. There are an additional 354 pending including the extra 100 AirAsia said they would take but they have been very quiet on that and plus the Frontier order.
That's 1196 plus 354 to give total firm orders and pending commitments for all models of the Neo family at 1550 or 1450 if you exclude AirAsia.
*As pending, not much has been heard of since initial announcement but Tony Fernandes does drop a few hints.
** For AA as it is not known exactly how many are coming from leasing companies.
Aeroflot - 2 777-200ER to 2 777-300ER
Alaska Airlines - 2 737-800 to 2 737-900ER
American Airlines - 1 777-200ER to 1 777-300ER
Aviation Capital Group - 5 737-700 to 5 737-800
China Southern - 19 737-700 to 19 737-800
Continental - 8 737-700 to 8 737-900ER
GECAS - 2 777-300ER to 2 777F
ILFC - 34 787-8 to 34 787-9
Korean Air - 10 787-8 to 10 787-9
Lion Air - 15 737-900ER to 15 737-800
Vietnam Airlines - 8 787-8 to 8 787-9
Qatar Airways - 1 777-200LR to 1 777-300ER
Icelandair have disposed of the 3 787-8s they had on order to Norwegian Air Shuttle.
Oman Air and ALAFCO were much the same as this for their 6 787-8
Other adjustments and notes since last update
China Eastern Airlines will cancel their 15 787-8 and take 45 737s
Shanghai Airlines will also cancel their 9 787-8 China Cancel 24 787 - Orders Below 800 (by oykie Oct 17 2011 in Civil Aviation)
This one is still worth its own thread if you look at all the activity from China in relation to the 787 this year.
Saudi Arabian Airlines are in the market for 50 frames, from both OEM's, the 10 777-300ERs listed as pending will remain so given clear statements from the carrier earlier this year.
Air China - 5 B747-8i
AF/KLM - 25 787-9
American Airlines - 2 B777-300ER, 100 737Max*
Aviation Capital Group - 35 737Max****
British Airways - 2 777-300ER**
China Southern - 6 777F**
EVA Air - 10 777, some freighters breakdown not known, for a part **
Hong Kong Airlines - 6 777F**, 2 787BBJ, 30 787-9
Indian Navy - 12 737-800 to increase their P-8 order to 24 It is a civil frame so is listed
Lion Air - 29 737-900ER, 201 737-9Max****
LAN - 4 767-300ER***
Saudi Arabian Airlines - 10 777-300ER
Transaero - 4 747-8i
Unidentified - 15 747-8i reported to be HNA Group - Hong Kong Airlines
Xiamen Airlines - 6 787-8
Note - the pending total does not include approximately 464 737Max from 9 customers mentioned in the link above as we don't publicly know the breakdown for each....yet.
*Pending bankruptcy court approval
** Possible undisclosed
*** No further confirmation, if not firmed this month it will be removed
**** Pending formal launch.
Gross - 643
Net - 527
Pending - 504
Clarifications are welcome and these numbers, when looked at over the year, really do tell a great deal about the industry this year and how the two OEM's have benefited, but that's for another thread. maybe even 2 or 3...
Burkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4268 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 14537 times:
Quoting JerseyFlyer (Reply 4): Airlines must have more confidence in economic recovery in the nmedium term than most news soiurces!
They see bookings going up, cargo getting more, real economy growing, and not what those news agencies owned by those who profit billions in every crisis want us to believe...
I just saw that LH tranported 6.4% more pax this November than last year. There is no crisis.
Back to topic, next year we can expect there will be massive orders for Boeing, they easily can reach 1000 for the MAX next year, while Airbus just by booking the pendings and selling normally can come near to 1000 too.
Southwest are announced as launch customer for the MAX with a firm order for 150 plus another 58 737NGs. All new as Boeing's statement says they now have 13 737MAX customers and over 900 orders and commitments for the models. More available for discussion at;
Of note, the Southwest order which Boeing Commercial have announced is the largest firm order in dollar value and number of airplanes in their history. The third time since Dubai they have attained their largest dollar value order based on list prices. Lion Air's commitment for 201 MAX plus 29 NG's is also in that region for number of units and dollar value.
And Boeing just hit 200 gross 777 orders this year! (if firmed)
I forgot to bring this up earlier, but Boeing had quite a few 737 model conversions in Nobember. I can't remember them all now, but I know AS converted 2 more -800's to -900ER's (now up to 19) and a UFO customer converted 9 -800's to -700's.
polot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 1591 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 12697 times:
I'm just amazed that Boeing has managed to sell 40 767s this year, making it the 3rd best selling widebody after the 777 and A330. Especially interesting that the 767/A330 replacements, the 787 and A350, both have negative net orders so far this year as well.
polot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 1591 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (1 year 6 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 12373 times:
Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 15): It will be interesting to see if Boeing can book Hong Kong Airlines' 32 787's this month, finally giving that program a net positive YoY orderbook. . .
AF's order would also do the trick (and bring the A350 close to net 0 assuming they would firm both at the the same time). It would be great if they could book both, that would push the 787 over the 767 in terms of net orders.
Chiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 931 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (1 year 6 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12252 times:
Quoting PM (Reply 17): Not for widebodies. Boeing is WAY ahead.
That's for sure. Only 71 net order compared to Boeing's amazing 227.
I think Airbus is still a head by total net orders value but not by much now.
Do anyone know that list prices for the NEOs and MAX' ?
polot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 1591 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (1 year 6 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 12009 times:
Quoting Julian773 (Reply 19): ps: how many of the total Boeings were ordered after the 737MAX was announced?
The 737MAX was announced August 30th, and since that time has logged ~413 orders. I am probably missing a few small orders here and there from early December, but Boeing's site only goes up to November for user defined reports and I don't feel like figuring out all the orders from December. 251 of those orders were from this week (it really was a good week for Boeing).