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GOL B763 Already In TUS On Delivery To DL!  
User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 522 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 10220 times:

That certainly happened quickly after the recent announcement of DL's $100M investment in GOL!

Boeing 767 -383 24846 309 PR-VAO Gol Linhas Aeréas ferried 09-10dec11 CNF-MAO-TUS, all wh, Varig titl on delivery to Delta Air Lines ex TF-FIC

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User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3736 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9837 times:

Gol has become "allergic" to these frames. They really don't know what to do with widebody aircraft, so they want to get rid of them as fast as possible.
They have been blaming their widebody fleet for their losses for years on their quarterly results. They are mentioned like in every conference call.


User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 2007 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9687 times:

Why TUS? I would think DL would want to get it to ATL so TechOps can take a look at it and get to work.

[Edited 2011-12-11 11:02:51]

User currently offlinesunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2058 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9667 times:

Quoting LV (Reply 2):
Why TUS? I would think DL would want to get it to ATL so TechOps can take a look at it and get the work.

Maybe TUS is doing the painting, then to ATL TOC for the rest of the work?



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User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 522 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9574 times:

How does this B767-383ER differ from DLs other B767-332ERs? Is it the location of the galleys, lavatories and other things? Just wondering if this will confuse FAs who forget which aircraft they are flying in?

User currently offlinemarky From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9562 times:

Quoting LV (Reply 2):
Why TUS?

Fair chance it is heading to the desert for a time. Flights to Marana from overseas often go via TUS, presumably for customs purposes.


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4973 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9409 times:
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There is no guarantee that DL will actually use this 763ER in their operations. They are taking over the lease, but if market and fuel conditions do not warrant it, they may simply let it sit - may be more cost-efficient.

User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 2021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9387 times:

My initial guess was that Delta would want the two 767s for parts. For instance, if Delta placed the 763 into service, it would be the second-oldest in their -ER fleet. Certainly looks like it's headed for the desert when it's stopping in TUS first, so we'll see.

User currently offlineLAXtoATL From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1649 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 9166 times:

Considering that Delta is taking over the lease, it is unlikely this aircraft would be parted out. You have to own an aircraft to break it up into parts. As for when this aircraft would go into revenue service, it would have to be painted first and considering the slack in their current fleet, I would assume that interior mods would be completed beforehand as well. So, my opinion from the sidelines is that this aircraft is headed for temporary storage until DL can set a schedule for the necessary maintance for this frame and when they would want it in revenue service. There is one unlikely alternative as well, they could keep it as a lone oddball and use it exclusively for charters.

User currently offlineraggi From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 1005 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 9115 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 4):
How does this B767-383ER differ from DLs other B767-332ERs? Is it the location of the galleys, lavatories and other things? Just wondering if this will confuse FAs who forget which aircraft they are flying in?

The customer code tells us that this is a former SAS aircraft. SK is infamous for having very special and unique galleys in their a/c. That said, DL's 767 fleet is made up of a wide variety of different sourced a/c, so I'm sure they'll cope.


Raggi



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 9106 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 4):

Wouldn't really matter if its different. The interior will be completely gutted and brought up to DL spec before it enters revenue service. The 76ER mod line is in full swing and one of the tasks is standardization of all galleys so that they are the exact same on each ship.



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User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 522 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 9089 times:

Quoting LAXtoATL (Reply 8):

DL still has a 763ER, N173DN, parked in VCV after they took it out of storage to have it painted last February, only to return it to VCV where it has remained since! Very odd!


User currently offlinen901wa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8951 times:

It is strange, you would think 173 that has been in storage since 08 would be pulled out if they needed the lift, and strange the ex-GOL 767 is going to TUS. If it was going into flyable storage then I would think it would go up the road to MZJ. Unless it has to clear US customs in TUS before it could ferry to MZJ. Or something like that.

User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2984 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8301 times:
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I know about the big disaster the re-start attempt for the VARIG brand. And I have seen the very shiny new 737's with VARIG livery, but I am entirely confused what the purpose of using the RG brand is. Unless they have to use it or loose it from a legal standpoint. Nonetheless, nothing feels better than seeing a big dark blue VARIG at GRU or GIG! I'd prefer a 747, but beggars can't be choosers!


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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6643 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8183 times:

Since GOL is leasing this aircraft to Delta, is it possible that it will retain its Brazillian registration number (PR-VAO)? DL once had two 732s with Irish regs (EI-BOM and EI-BON).

[Edited 2011-12-11 14:52:32]


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User currently offlinen901wa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8135 times:

I remember the WAL EI-BOM and BON   The Bom Bon twins.

User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6643 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8042 times:

For the ship number, I presume it will be ship 1202, since PR-VAO is P&W-powered. This continues the range of regs for the P&W-powered 763ERs (N1200K and N1201P, ships 1200 and 1201, were DL's last two P&W-powered 763ERs before DL switched to GE).


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User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 2021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7829 times:

Quoting LAXtoATL (Reply 8):
Considering that Delta is taking over the lease, it is unlikely this aircraft would be parted out. You have to own an aircraft to break it up into parts.

True, but we'll see if they make a deal on it. There has to be something more than this since it would seem beyond unlikely that the other aircraft, the 762, would fly for Delta. So you figure something has to give with that lease.


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11459 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7275 times:
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Quoting panamair (Reply 6):
There is no guarantee that DL will actually use this 763ER in their operations. They are taking over the lease, but if market and fuel conditions do not warrant it, they may simply let it sit - may be more cost-efficient.

Good point. But DL can negotiate a better rate on a longer lease agreement. For the lessor, now the risk become smaller (no country risk), and if they can secure this lease for longer, good for both.



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