dtwpilot225 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 98 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1463 times:
Does anyone have a route map or time table from when Spirit had a larger presence in DTW before they downsized and relocated their headquarters to FLL? I know now they serve LAX, LAS, FLL, MCO, SJU, RSW, TPA, LGA, MYR, and ORD right now. I am intersted to see cities they used to serve and I am also interested to see if you guys think that they will ever take advantage of the North Terminal in DTW and try to compete with Delta on routes in the future. With 33 orders and 75 options you would think that DTW would get at least some of that action.
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6867 posts, RR: 29 Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1442 times:
I don't have the old routes maps at my disposal, however NK completely changed their focus a few years ago.
Going back 10 years or more, NK was growing a decent-sized operation at DTW. However when they moved their HQ to FLL and then focused their operation on serving sun and VFR markets out of FLL, they pulled down much of their DTW operation.
There were plans/rumors that NK was going to go from about 30 flights/day at its peak at DTW to upwards of 60+ flights. In fact, NK was planning to take 8 gates in the North Terminal when initial plans were being developed earlier in the decade.
NK in DTW also got hit very hard in the recession and during the auto industry collapse. They overly rely upon leisure and discresonary travel and from an economic class that was hit very hard in recent years. That has recovered somewhat but NK is no longer the far and away leader of the LCC pack in DTW.
I do not see them growing much in DTW. A few flights here or there, but it is not a matter of the new terminal. They ran a much bigger operation out of the old LC Smith terminal.
dtwpilot225 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 98 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1254 times:
Interesting, they actually have more routes today out of dtw. I think i remember them flying to denver or something like that. Some cities that I think Spirit could fly out of DTW would be the following: Phoenix/Mesa, DFW, Purta Villerta, Punta Cana, Montego Bay, and Monterrey Mexico (auto stuff) But what do I know. I just hope we get our hometown airline back in a bigger presence in the future
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6867 posts, RR: 29 Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1156 times:
NK also flew DTW-PHL, DTW-BOS, and DTW-DCA at different points in the late 90's / early 2000's.
They did well with leisure passengers, but with generally never more than 1-2 flights on a route per day and going against the NW Worldperks loyalty they did not get business traffic.
NK did put pressure on NW's fares though in many of those markets, and NW would occasionally be accused of retaliation.
Quoting dtwpilot225 (Reply 3): Phoenix/Mesa, DFW, Purta Villerta, Punta Cana, Montego Bay, and Monterrey Mexico (auto stuff) But what do I know. I just hope we get our hometown airline back in a bigger presence in the future
Phoenix/Mesa could work - if NK wanted to get into that Snowbird market (they haven't shown an interest in growing it yet)
DFW - maybe but is going against AA and DL who have the business market locked up. Is there enough leisure demand between the two, maybe-not sure
The other beach markets would have to operate more like quasi-charter operations. It could work during select periods of the year (spring break) and certain days of the week.
DTW-MTY, absoletely not. DL flies this with a 76 seater and it is primarily a business route
dtwpilot225 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 98 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1004 times:
I agree about the vacation markets but that doesnt mean they cant run weekly flights. I have nothing against delta but on some routes the tickets are very expensive and i am sure a lot of people would welcome spirits low cost tickets. They do not support business travelers so that market can not be tapped.