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A Spotter's Paradise- Caribbean Aviation Thread 93  
User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1435 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 16383 times:

Warm and sunny holiday greetings to all!

Welcome to the 93rd instalment of the Caribbean Aviation Thread.This instalment is dedicated to the extremely renowned island of Sint Maarten/St. Martin!



Often referred to as the crossroads of the Caribbean, St. Maarten is located at the northern end of the Lesser Antilles, approximately 150 miles southeast of Puerto Rico. The island is divided roughly 60/40 between France and the Kingdom of the Netherlands, however, the Dutch side has the larger population. It is one of the smallest sea islands divided between two nations, a division dating to 1648. The southern Dutch part comprises Sint Maarten and is one of four constituent countries that form the Kingdom of the Netherlands.


The 37-square-mile island of St. Maarten was first settled by the Arawaks and was discovered by Christopher Columbus on behalf of Spain in 1493. Columbus sighted the island on November 11th, the holy day of St. Martin of Tours, and so named the island after him. For the next 150 years the island was passed between Holland, England, France and Spain. The old stone forts that guard many of the island's inlets are proof of the island's turbulent past. In 1648 St. Maarten was peacefully divided between Holland and France, and today is the smallest landmass in the world to be shared by two sovereign nations.


However, St. Maarten is most famous for its exciting "aviation-savvy" Maho Beach! The short length of the main runway at Princess Juliana International Airport, and its position between a large hill and a powdery white sanded beach inevitably results in some spectacular low approaches.

Thousands of aviation photographers from around the globe flock to this tiny island to capture spectacular pictures as well as experience the euphoria of large aircraft screaming over their heads. The famous Sunset Bar and Grill is always packed with aviation thrill seekers and photographers. Each morning, bar staff write the day's flight schedule on a surf board (original Caribbean fasion) and broadcast air traffic control instead of music. One thing is for sure; if you're a die-hard aviation enthusiast, SXM is definitely on your list of places to visit!


Typical SXM!


The famous "DANGER" sign


Roman Abramovich's B763ER giving the sunbathers a good sandblasting.


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Long live SXM!!!!!!

******NEWS FEED******
AA's 4x weekly B738 JFK-ANU service successfully inaugurated.
CAL successfully inaugurates 2x weekly GND-JFK upgraded to 3x weekly.
CAL operating JFK-GEO-JFK with NA 763ER for winter season.
GEO poised to begin US$138M upgrade of GEO which includes new terminal and 8 jetway bridges.
Tropic Air of Belize takes delivery of two brand new Cessna 208 Caravans fitted with G1000 avionics.
Tropic Air looking to expand with large turboprop aircraft.
Cessna C152 enroute from POS-GEO crash lands in rich field in Guyana...no fatalities.
Redjet trunk investor says airline needs US$8M to reach set financial targets.
CAL chairman creates confusion over CAL financials with loose statements.
Redjet threatens to pull headquarters from BGI.
Redjet introduces new 2x weekly GEO-ANU service with its MD-82.
Redjet receives 3rd MD-82 aircraft (ex N562AA) named Nickitastic!
LI pilots strike after former LIALPA president Micheal Blackburn is fired. Cripples airline over 2 day period.
CAL inaugurates KIN-MIA service with B738 4x weekly (to go daily in February).
JALPA attempts to strike against CAL but actions are blocked by the Jamaican Industrial Disputes Tribunal.
DAE adds MD-83, initially using it on daily SXM-SDQ service.
CAL obtains route rights TO FLY BGI-GEO and BGI-SLU.
CAL's BGI-GEO service inaugurated with B738.
Six self-checkin kiosks now operational at POS. CAL sole customer thus far.
EZJet of Guyana begins JFK service with leased B762ER 6x weekly. Loads very encouraging.
Thomson Airways (TUI) inaugurates new bi-weekly ARN-BGI service with B763ER.
CAL takes delivery of second ATR-72-600 series (9Y-TTB) Dec.18th, 2011 @ POS.
CAL's BW500/501 service switched from Ryan International 763 to VS A333.

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL CONTRIBUTORS





Happy Posting!

[Edited 2011-12-18 22:26:24]


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User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1435 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 16413 times:

Here's a pic of CAL's second ATR, 9Y-TTB ariving at POS courtesy Nigel Steele.




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User currently offline9YCAL From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2008, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 16341 times:

Thanks for Starting the thread BW424!

User currently offlinewindian425 From Barbados, joined Dec 2006, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 16256 times:

With the second CAL ATR72-600 delivered, what routes are they currently flying?

User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 642 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 16213 times:

Yeyyyy, new post!


CURIOSITY ABOUT ST. MAARTEN: According to a local legend, the french and the dutch made a bet to divide the island: the french would start walking deeper inside the island from Anse marcel (up north) while the dutch would start from pointe blance.... (on extreme south) then they'd need to meet each other and on the MEETPOINT they would imagine a parallel line to divide the island, but the french brought wine with them while the dutch had strong homemade GIN, so the dutch soon felt the booze and slowed down, until the french met them in oyster pond, that's the why according to this "legend" the french side is bigger than the dutch side!


User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3437 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 16212 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
CAL takes delivery of second ATR-72-600 series (9Y-TTB) Dec.18th, 2011 @ POS.

So CAL's Turboprop fleet now stands at 9. Are they returning the two leased ATRs anytime soon?
Any idea on the fate of the Dash8's? I remember there was some talk of them being sold to the TT Air Guard.

Quoting 9YCAL (Reply 2):
Thanks for Starting the thread BW424!

Seconded. Thanks @ BW424!

AA1818



“The moment you doubt whether you can fly, you cease for ever to be able to do it.” J.M. Barrie (Peter Pan)
User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 642 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 16199 times:











User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1435 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 16187 times:

Quoting 9YCAL (Reply 2):
hanks for Starting the thread BW424!
Quoting AA1818 (Reply 5):
Seconded. Thanks @ BW424!

Your most welcome guys!

Quoting windian425 (Reply 3):
With the second CAL ATR72-600 delivered, what routes are they currently flying?

At the moment, TTA is doing both TAB and GND runs. Not sure if she has been to CCS yet, but I know she has been in BGI on a proving flight.

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 5):
So CAL's Turboprop fleet now stands at 9. Are they returning the two leased ATRs anytime soon?
Any idea on the fate of the Dash8's? I remember there was some talk of them being sold to the TT Air Guard.

As for the DHC8s for the TTAG, I really don't know if this is still on. This was a rumour from since 2009 and haven't heard anything since.

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 6):

Great shots man! Looks like you had the classic experience! As foe me, yet to go there though....



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User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2683 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 16161 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
******NEWS FEED******

Forgot to mention that DAE stopped CUR-PTY service.

Some of those Moho Beach photographs are just plain insane. The mom and 2 children didn't know planes landed that close to the beach?



I'm not on CM's payroll.
User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6303 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 16146 times:

Tropic Air (PM) PM announced locally here today that in addition to starting SAP (5Xweekly March 1) and RTB (1Xweekly March 3), they will also being doing BZE-LCE 2 times a week starting March 4.


When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6303 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 16143 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 8):
Some of those Moho Beach photographs are just plain insane. The mom and 2 children didn't know planes landed that close to the beach?

They do now. Those kids will be talking about that for years.



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3830 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 16140 times:

Thanks for the post!

I'll be in St Maarten in April for the first time, I'm very excited, I booked the insane 310 EUR round trip fare from Paris on Air Caraibes that was announced in this forum a month ago. I'll be there for 10 days with my girlfriend, and while she isn't into aviation too much she will not mind spending some time on Maho beach and taking some inter island flights. As we both love boat travel too, we will travel to some neighboring islands one way by boat and one way by plane. We're planning to go to Saba, St Barth and Anguilla.

I'm hesitant to book any LIAT flights as I don't trust in them being around much longer, after all the bad news. I think it will be Winair then!

Too bad this area is very expensive when it comes to hotels, flights, food and everything.

Soren   



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User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2639 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 16101 times:

Thanks BW424 happy holidays to all you guys it was a great year.

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 11):
I'm hesitant to book any LIAT flights as I don't trust in them being around much longer, after all the bad news. I think it will be Winair then!

They will be around since the airline provides a critical service to the region.

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 11):
Too bad this area is very expensive when it comes to hotels, flights, food and everything.

Ain't that the truth.



All ah we is one family
User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 642 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 15926 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 11):

Yeah as caribbean484 said, they're VITAL to these islands, they can't disappear like that.... but come prepared for delays, winair is no exception! and make sure you have your hotels booked, sometimes immigration can be picky!

Quoting BW424 (Reply 7):
Great shots man! Looks like you had the classic experience! As foe me, yet to go there though....

thanks, it's very very nice, SXM might sound tacky but the island still got a lot of surprises!


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1471 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 15913 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 9):

Interesting. Are there close ties between Belize and Honduras?


User currently offlinetrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3254 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 15908 times:

Thanks for the great start to the thread. St Maarten - a place I have only ever stopped over at on flights continuing elsewhere (KIN - POS) but definitely a must-see. St Maarten must be one of the smallest islands with 2 airports as well - there is a small one at L'Esperance on the French side which handles flights to Guadeloupe. It is shown on the map above.

SXM, though, is one of the busiest airports in the Eastern Caribbean.

Trintocan.



Hop to it, fly for life!
User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2639 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 15899 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 11):
I'll be in St Maarten in April for the first time, I'm very excited, I booked the insane 310 EUR round trip fare from Paris on Air Caraibes that was announced in this forum a month ago. I'll be there for 10 days with my girlfriend, and while she isn't into aviation too much she will not mind spending some time on Maho beach and taking some inter island flights.

That's really cool man you have to remember that SXM is one of the most expensive destinations in the Caribbean also, not most people can't afford to holiday there.

This is the busy holiday week
BGI
Seeing an increase by AC with daily 763 as mentioned in the other forum and weekend A319
WS will still be doing their overnight in BGI for an early morning departure.
AA and B6 have not added seats to the island this year from JFK.
http://www.totallybarbados.com/barba..._News/Barbados_News_2011/11507.htm

GND
CAL started its bi-weekly POS-GND-YYZ-GND-POS services
CAL will introduce 3rd weekly high season JFK-GND services

SKB
AC will commence services on 23rd December to the island

Other news
May be A388 can confirm
Two all cargo charter airlines, using the island of Curacao for a fuel stop, are pulling out of Curacao and will make their fuel stop elsewhere in the Caribbean. The first that recently stopped their operations was Lufthansa, which was operating a DC-10 all cargo, flying loads of Flowers from Colombia, with a fuel stop in Curacao, North bound (Europe) . According to well informed sources, Lufthansa will now make the stop in San Juan, Puerto Rico.
http://www.caribbeanavenue.com/aviation/viewtopic.php?f=252&t=11061



All ah we is one family
User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 15880 times:

Great thread 424 thanks. I have an associate that part owns a bar in St. Maarten and he always insists we go down. I think it's time to take him up on the offer.

Happy holidays to all.

GUYAIR707


User currently offlinewindian425 From Barbados, joined Dec 2006, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 15857 times:

Does anyone have photos of the VS A333 currently operating for CAL on the BW500/501?

User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6303 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 15815 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 14):
Interesting. Are there close ties between Belize and Honduras?

Not any more that any other Caribbean country. For example the Gariganu of Belize came from St. Vincent



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User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 15812 times:

Nice to see the ATR's arriving sad the Dash 8's will be leaving will BGI see AC A330 this season?

User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1435 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 15743 times:

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 12):
Thanks BW424 happy holidays to all you guys it was a great year.
Quoting trintocan (Reply 15):
Thanks for the great start to the thread.
Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 17):
Great thread 424 thanks.

Your most welcome guys!

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 16):
GND
CAL started its bi-weekly POS-GND-YYZ-GND-POS services
CAL will introduce 3rd weekly high season JFK-GND services

Hmmm...I'm wondering if GND very well has the potential of being a mini focus city for CAL over the long term? Great to see the increased service levels to the island!

Quoting windian425 (Reply 18):
Does anyone have photos of the VS A333 currently operating for CAL on the BW500/501?

Here's a link to a photo of it,

http://www.flickr.com/photos/runway27r/6522196313/lightbox/

Flew into POS last night full.



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User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2639 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 15740 times:

Quoting BW424 (Reply 21):
Hmmm...I'm wondering if GND very well has the potential of being a mini focus city for CAL over the long term? Great to see the increased service levels to the island!

It seems that the GOG is really using up CAL's services, once CAL provides a good product and reliable services GOG should continue to support them.

Quoting BW424 (Reply 21):
Flew into POS last night full.

My brother and cousins are travelling on this on the 23rd to POS, I will ask them take some pics of it. PAX must be surprised to travel in the A333, hopefully CAL and lease this for the high season Carnival and Summer.



All ah we is one family
User currently offlinebeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1778 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 15690 times:

Quoting windian425 (Reply 18):
Does anyone have photos of the VS A333 currently operating for CAL on the BW500/501?

Here it is just before delivery to Ryan Air International


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Still painted white with small Ryan Air Logo over first door and tail

Below is an interior shot for another VS A330.


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User currently offlinewindian425 From Barbados, joined Dec 2006, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 15638 times:

Unfortunately no AC A330 planned for this winter season to BGI. Expect to see Finnair A333 twice in January and February 2012.

25 baje427 : Will these be charters from HEL? Nice to seed some new birds in BGI AB A330 are becoming regulars in BGI for this winter
26 windian425 : Yes.. the Finnair flights will be from HEL.
27 Post contains images A388 : That is one destination I wouldn't want to be on (flight from HEL) Just kidding, is this the first charter flight of Finnair to the Caribbean. I have
28 turk223 : Nope. AY did a few charters to BGI with MD-11s back in the 1990s...
29 GUYAIR707 : On board BW 503 to GEO. Delayed, the lines at security were horrendous. BW had 3 departures 501, 18 and 503, they took up most of aisle 7 with Copa fi
30 Post contains images andrefranca : X-mass message from Redjet's CEO: "On behalf of everyone at REDjet I want to wish you and your loved ones a very Merry Christmas and healthy and prosp
31 GUYAIR707 : Now capt says engine cowling not shut properly 1hr 10 min delay. Moving us to hardstand. Just spotted Ryan Air A333 working as BW501. GUYAIR707[Edited
32 lucianflyboy : Great thread and wonderful information!! This is great news that CAL got approval for BGI-SLU. Wonder if they'll ever get approval for UVF-POS or UVF
33 2travel2know2 : AY has been flying bi-weekly charters to PTY for the past few winters. There were rumours Panama Tourist Authority wanted to convince AY to operate w
34 caribbean484 : You can always count on NAA to have delays lol From tomorrow they will have 11 flights out of JFK BW 425(738), 18(738), 10(738), 12(757), 521(738), 5
35 GUYAIR707 : Very impressive. Still on the ground, a/c being looked at. GUYAIR707
36 GUYAIR707 : Seems 503 will not be going with this a/c. Another a/c is inbound to replace this one. GUYAIR707
37 GUYAIR707 : Bad start to JFK GEO. But better to be on the ground waiting to go into the air than in the air waiting to land. GUYAIR707
38 baje427 : Wow that is a lot of flights how much do they have from YYZ ? Are they CAL f/a on board the flights operated with the Ryan A330?
39 baje427 : Will you be doing a trip report?
40 A388 : I was in POS back in November/December 2009 and also expected to see lots of Caribbean Airlines 737 tails lined up but I was unpleasantly surprised t
41 caribbean484 : YYZ tomorrow BW 607(738), 78(738), 611(762), 601(783) total of 661 seats to the Caribbean. MIA/FLL BW 30(738), 21(738), 34(738), 483(738), 32(738), 4
42 andrefranca : WOW, that's a lot! I wonder why suriname bound flights take off so late?
43 Post contains links caribbean484 : Very true, BWIA used to have a lot of tails in the afternoon and Morning, now CAL has most of their flights arrive in the early morning from YYZ and
44 GUYAIR707 : Taking some pics, will see how it goes. GUYAIR707
45 GUYAIR707 : Still on the ground ETD 18:30. BW did good we got vouchers all day and a rep was at the gate all day answering questions. GUYAIR707
46 GUYAIR707 : Wow BW just gave us vouchers $400 towards next BW ticket. GUYAIR707
47 caribbean484 : Wow nice, has your a/c arrived yet?
48 GUYAIR707 : Onboard, using same a/c seems they solved the problem, thanks for asking. GUYAIR707
49 guyanam : I guess they dont want Guyanese to toss Trinis off any flights tomorrow like they did last summer. Good for them. I didnt expect a new a/c...but as y
50 BW424 : That is very impressive indeed. Now if only all those aircraft were 738s/739ERs painted on a ONE uniform Caribbean livery. Now that will be an impres
51 caribbean484 : Yep she is operating POS-JFK-GND-POS 426/427 One can wish 739ER would be a great addition. This winter CAL has leased a lot of wide-bodies, I think b
52 Post contains links A388 : News from Curacao, Insel Air is protesting against Dutch Antilles Express and their wet-leased MD80 flights. According to them Dutch Antilles Express
53 turk223 : Hear, hear!
54 lucianflyboy : That would be great. BW425/426 used to be POS-UVF-JFK with a L10-11 back a few centuries ago. I think they can support traffic even if it's once or t
55 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Hello fellow Caribbean a.netters! I'm new to the forum, but I have been following these threads from as long as I can remember. I'm from the island of
56 andrefranca : hellooo, very worm welcome to the caribbean forum! one day I will visit montserrat. I want to see soufriere hills with my own eyes!
57 BW424 : Nice...appreciate the confirmation. Hmmm.....very interesting. I really wonder if someone is in the wrong or is someone apprehensive towards competit
58 817Dreamliiner : yes you should visit! its a really nice here, and believe it or not flying into Montserrat is quite an experience! I remember when the show "worlds m
59 A388 : When driving to work this morning I heard on the radio that DAE won the case but the next question is what they will do now because their charter per
60 andrefranca : But both insel and dae are way too conservative, I always try to check seats on G3 to curaçao and aruba, and they're always fully booked, if these a
61 A388 : No they won't. They could have used connecting traffic from CM but you are dramatizing this. I'm starting to think that you have something against Du
62 2travel2know2 : It seems DAE no longer is flying to PTY, even if it looks like it's a DAE plane landing on PTY new TV commercial, shown on local stations. As of why
63 andrefranca : I flew DAE myself and felt the service is appalling! the ground staff walk around as they were going to be hitted with a baseball stick! delay is the
64 817Dreamliiner : Ive got a question Has anyone here flown on CAL's first class lately? Because I had some family members travelling yesterday on the KIN-ANU route and
65 yellowtail : My wife flew it a few weeks ago POS-MIA and said she was pleasantly surprised. Said the food was "better than what was served to her in business firs
66 GUYAIR707 : Re: CAL's F/C service I fly them constantly. Service is excellent, food and drink is great, FA's refer to you by name, they can't seem to do enough fo
67 817Dreamliiner : thanks for your replies I never actually realized that their First class service was this good, its actually making me wonder why I flew economy on CA
68 jmbweeboy : I have flown airlines business/first all over the world for 40 years and only on CAL and interestingly Japan Airlines does the lead flight attendant/
69 Post contains images yellowtail : Sounds like we actually found something good to say about CAL next thing you know it will be a new year!
70 baje427 : Now that the second ATR has arrived have CALretired any of the Q300's nice to hear of CAL being good in first. What are your thoughts on perhaps havin
71 caribbean484 : Last time I flew CAL was in late August POS-MIA, their economy service food was really good, salt fight and coconut bake, a small slice of cake, some
72 817Dreamliiner : that would be nice especially on the long 4+ hrs flights
73 baje427 : AA 763 is operating JFK-BGI today BGI will be 767 heaven today. AC AA TOM
74 windian425 : Very true... 1 AA, 1 AC & 3 TOM 767-300's
75 AA1818 : Merry Christmas to everyone! Have a happy and holy Christmas! Cheers, AA1818
76 Post contains links andrefranca : Probably we already talked about it, but I don't remember though, but according to this link http://www.newsday.co.tt/businessday/0,150744.html CAL wa
77 guyanam : Trinidad has as many people of African descent as of Indian descent. No I dont think that either service will be profitable, except as an occasional
78 Post contains links and images caribbean484 : Same to you and your family 1818 Dropped off my family at JFK yesterday and had the opportunity to talk to the CAL NYC GM who said that the A333 chan
79 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : wow, not bad at all!! that looks really nice, thanks for sharing
80 Post contains images A388 : As AA1818 has said: Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all of you and your loved ones too!!! A388
81 baje427 : The meal service looks nice but something about the one airline two brands does not sit well with me lol. The 737-800 cabins could do with an update
82 Post contains links baje427 : BGI is being served every Sunday from YYZ by a Canjet 738 operating on behalf of TS. http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/flight-plans/
83 andrefranca : well, quite impressive! keep it up CAL!
84 turk223 : The plastic salad bowl ruins it all, eh?
85 jmbweeboy : Serving Moet! Not bad!!!!! JMBWEEBOY
86 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : Been a bit quiet on here lately, so here's something for discussion. CAL’s veiled threat to LIAT Chairman of Caribbean Airlines Limited (CAL) George
87 A388 : I like the last paragraph of that aritcle stating the regional fleet of 16 that Caribbean Airlines will have once all new ATR's are delivered together
88 baje427 : Just curious is CO service to POS in Y class BOB?
89 trintocan : Well well, what do we have here? Some boasts about Caribbean Airlines expanding to other islands and threatening LI. Well, if those flights among the
90 yellowtail : BW should send at least half of the proposed order of ATRs to KIN.....routes such as KIN-GCM/HAV/BZE/SAP/GUA/CUN/CUR should do reasonably well.
91 guyanam : Nicholas is just being idle as usual and is allwoed to behave like a dangerous big child who is busy destroying toys. Why is the E/Caribbean route su
92 baje427 : I agree I don't see the point of CAL operating a similar BWee Express type service why not focus on what they do best its been proven again and again
93 LimaFoxTango : This is something LI hasnt done in years. It's been prohibited by new ECCAA regulations. Truth is, most of LI routes are not economically profitable,
94 guyanam : Agreed. Nicholas is only empire building. If CAL takes over LIAT their northern routes will be gone in 2 seconds as they are of scant interest to Tri
95 Post contains images CO777DAL : Sure their daddy the Gov't of T&T does. CO food service is free in Y to POS. They cite competition for this. In First from EWR at midnight they a
96 trintocan : Thanks for letting me know. I stand corrected. That's the fundamental issue here. BW ignores that point at their peril. SXM - KIN has generally been
97 A388 : Thanks for all the explanations guys. I hope Caribbean Airlines will serve CUR one day, I have been saying this since 2009!!! And of course I hope to
98 windian425 : I totally agree with this statement.. This is what I call low hanging fruit ripe for the picking... Come on CAL...
99 Post contains links and images A388 : I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking that but Caribbean Airlines/Air Jamaica must also think that!!! Also, my first photo of Dutch Antilles Express
100 windian425 : For some strange/unknown reason CAL/JM is more interested in competing with RD and LI than developing an obvious route. CAL will soon start flying th
101 baje427 : With CAL removal of their fuel subsidy and with the current management how long do you guys think they will have before they are like BWIA again.
102 Post contains links and images dxing : Was down there last year for the first time and will probably be heading back in April myself. The hotel I stayed at was right along the runway and ha
103 windian425 : Attention BGI Spotters.... Due to a fuel shortage at UVF we can expect some diversions including WS and B6 today... Enjoy...
104 baje427 : Will the DL and AC flights also divert to BGI?
105 BW424 : Happy New Year to all readers!! May this be a progressive and exciting one for Caribbean Aviation! Nice shots! You really got it up close and personal
106 AA1818 : Will there also be BGI-SLU flights? Is this confirmed? How many times a day does LIAT fly POS-SLU? AA1818
107 LimaFoxTango : Direct, only once. However connections can be made easily with connections via BGI or SVD on other flights. Same for SLU-POS.
108 BW424 : Haven't heard anything about BGI-SLU service. For now, its just the POS-SLU. In other news, a UA *Alliance schemed 764ER was in POS on a refuelling s
109 caribbean484 : Well we have to see how this pans out, its not bookable yet. That is interesting, why refuel in POS its way out of their flight path there must be so
110 BW424 : Ok, got some more info. It was operating UA 128 from GIG-IAH. Came in from GIG on a re-fuelling stop and then continued on to IAH. Very interesting..
111 caribbean484 : Yeah but why POS? If we look at the flight plan on flightaware.com the flight passes no where near POS nor the Eastern Caribbean it could have refuel
112 andrefranca : I know that Venezuela is almost a "NO WAY" zone to US carriers as they love to "pop up" with excuses for "inspections" (luggage shop lifting) etc...
113 2travel2know2 : Remember Venezuela had issues with UA because the IAH-CCS flight was no longer operated as Continental and UA CCS perhaps was tight on money to fuel
114 windian425 : Regarding the POS-SLU-BGI-SLU-POS flights.. The schedule will look like this. BW402 POS-BGI-SLU 18:00-19:05 - 19:40-20:20 BW403 SLU-POS 20:55-22:00 BW
115 Post contains links and images caribbean484 : The UAL128 diverted 764 at POS yesterday morning Guyana, a possible destination for Air Canada "Air Canada could be servicing the Guyana route in the
116 trintocan : Plus remember that BA do POS - UVF and vice versa daily. This will reduce to 6 weekly with the new summer timetable as BA will route the Sunday UVF s
117 Post contains images andrefranca : Very good news, I've been to St kitts, what a friendly people! the Brimstone hills fortress is also amazing I felt like I was a british colonizer
118 baje427 : AC would use the 763 to GEO is the A319 capable of YYZ-GEO? When will the POS-SLU-BGI flights begin?
119 yellowtail : What is the bigger question is why did it need the tech stop....the 764 should be able to do GIG-IAH without breaking a sweat
120 817Dreamliiner : I think it has the legs to do it, but I think the 763 would be the best option. Im here thinking the same thing, but remind me, was this really a fue
121 Post contains images BW424 : Thanks for the info windian! What a beauty she is! Would have loved to see her there. I heard there was some technical issue as well. Enjoy your retu
122 caribbean484 : Well the A319 has a much better range envelope than the A320 and will make GEO year round, so I guess AC can use the A319. Well anyways the spotter a
123 817Dreamliiner : Thanks guys, I really do hope I get 1 and yeah I have my fingers crossed! @ BW424, I really hope you get on 9Y-SXM as well, so I hope you have your f
124 LIA310 : Flight plans change daily according to the upper level winds and other factors. Sometimes flights heading south to Brazil route over Colombia or Vene
125 yellowtail : Sure the pax were not happy either. It is not unusual for the IAH-GRU/EZE/GIG flights to transit over the eastern caribbean. Remember S. America stic
126 caribbean484 : The upper level winds are very high these days sometimes in excess of 80mph seems that they are taking advantage of it thanks LIA310. Yep.
127 Post contains links AA1818 : According to : OAG Changes 1/6/2012: AM/CO/DL/UA/US (by enilria Jan 5 2012 in Civil Aviation) It appears Surinam Airways is to begin GEO-MIA flights i
128 2travel2know2 : Perhaps, PY MIA bound passengers started to dislike that disembark, go thru U.S. Port of Entry formalities, baggage return and embarkation @ AUA? Kud
129 guyanam : A good thing about this flight is FINALLY there will be proper airline service between GEO and PBM. As of now two puddle jumpers are the only option,
130 CO777DAL : No offense to anyone, but if it was me, there would be no way in h*** I'd want them to stop in POS for my medical emergency. I tell em keep going to
131 andrefranca : But historically they have links to the former Netherlands Antilles, as they were all colonies from the NL, some friends of mine living in the island
132 guyanam : True but the volume of traffic doesnt seem to merit more than a few flights a week. PY does 3X via POS which means that CUR alone cant support all 3.
133 817Dreamliiner : Hey guys Im at JFK now waiting on my flight to LHR, flight from ANU wasn't bad just a few notes though: I couldnt connect to any of the wireless conne
134 wadadli : This is indeed true. However, this is totally on the airline. The merger is still ongoing and they strategically started rebranding with the hubs EWR
135 andrefranca : I think the visa issue is also another "point against" them.... it must be strange to ask for the dutch visas once they colonized you... and vice-ver
136 817Dreamliiner : Just another note: The KE plane I saw was actually a 77W, not sure how I mistook it for an A380! But I'm at LHR now waiting on my BA flight to MAN
137 airfrancejfk : Was travelling JFK-GEO-PBM a few years ago. Didn't realize the puddle jumpers (Blue Wings etc) only take about 15kgs of baggage. Ended up doing the o
138 guyanam : It should because the MIA GEO sector should do OK given that its nonstop and only 2X week. Guyanese generally look for any alternative to Caribbean A
139 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : CAL to wetlease a 747 for Carnival? I know they need the extra seats, but come on, a 747? CAL increases seats, routes for Carnival State-owned Caribbe
140 Post contains links avionpg : dutch news paper reporting Curacao airport downgraded to category 2. for some reason i think the papers mean civil aviation authority from Curacao has
141 caribbean484 : Its from Atlas Air. Well the total added capacity is about 1440 seats per week from JFK according to amadeus, and yes they will be able to fill it as
142 be77 : If they are going for the large vfr market, the the non-XM 767's could be filled pretty regularly I imagine if the pricing was close to BW. If they g
143 817Dreamliiner : Wow a 747 for CAL? Well if they need that much extra seats then a 747 might not be a bad choice, although this was a bit shocking when I first saw it.
144 caribbean484 : It's an unfortunate situation to find yourself in, more so for Insel since they are based and registered there. It means then that Insel cannot add n
145 Post contains links yellowtail : CM article in PTY (thanks to my friends over in the C American forum for finding it) http://www.prensa.com/impreso/econom...-pasajeros-de-copa-crecio-
146 BW424 : Sorry to hear that. Same dissappointment for me! I actually saw 9Y-SXM arrive from GEO as 484 and equipment was switched to 9Y-POS for the continuati
147 trintocan : That is very unfortunate indeed as it puts a spoke into the wheels of Curacao civil aviation. Let's hope that they can work on resolving the issues a
148 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Geez and I was hoping you would get it, o well I guess that's just how it is sometimes. Saw 9Y-POS doing the the KIN flight on Thursday when I was in
149 turk223 : Man, don't be teasing me now... Been waiting for a service PTY-BGI to start for a while now.
150 yellowtail : If BGI is announced....a Jan announcement would indicate a June startup. I think GCM is more likely
151 A388 : This indeed is very unfortunate, I hope we will be upgraded again soon!!! The CCAA is already working on getting everything in place to regain Catego
152 Post contains links and images A388 : Below are my latest aircraft photos in the database taken in Curacao: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation Photography
153 Post contains links and images A388 : Below are my latest aircraft photos in the database taken in Curacao: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation Photography
154 Post contains links and images AA1818 : http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/...hts_to_India_coming-136918273.html Flights to India coming. From To Distance POS DEL 8572 mi ORD DEL 7483 mi AU
155 turk223 : Is there generally a six-month lag? I now live in Colombia and hope to have an easier - and more affordable - way to get home...
156 yellowtail : There is no set rule...but that is generally in the ball park.
157 andrefranca : I honestly think BGI will come earlier, cause GOVPAN was in Barbados last year having some "talks"... unless GCM and CUR give CM good discounts or in
158 817Dreamliiner : I think they should probably focus on getting back to London first before they think about India
159 baje427 : Do you guys really thing a BGI - PTY can work? I am a bit skeptical but perhaps a twice weekly E190 could do.
160 yellowtail : Well speaking in general terms...lots of Governments and airports are talking to CM constantly, doesn't mean that is a sign of imminent service. For
161 guyanam : I think the idea behind the 747 is to offer the same capacity as they would on the 767s normally used. Just fewer flights. Maybe the lease expenses w
162 andrefranca : But if you compare the per capita of a bajan (14.326,00 USD) compared to a belizean (4.158,00 USD), there's a big difference, besides that BGI won't
163 Post contains images yellowtail : That has been changed for you my friend. It has been been passed thru legislation and It should be updated in IATA etc by the end of the month. The o
164 2travel2know2 : Not sure if GCM or someone in PTY would give some kind of push for a PTY-GCM link. But there's a need for that, KY CGM-LCE works barely only for GCM-
165 andrefranca : Yes, indeed, But I always like to compare GCM to NAS, we all know that the name "Bahamas" is much stronger world wide! but NAS was mainly conected to
166 beeweel15 : Nice pics. Has the AN-124 big sister the AN-225 been to Curacao
167 GUYAIR707 : Sorry for the late reply, was enjoying the season just a bit too much. The flight left at 7:30 pm and we arrived around 2am Guyana time. The flight w
168 Post contains links and images beeweel15 : Could be either of these aircraft Possible look at the upper deck business class View Large View MediumPhoto © Yan David I hope the aircraft that is
169 Post contains images caribbean484 : I heard they got a nice deal with this since Atlas wants to come into the pax ACMI service. The a/c will be based in NYC so no worries there, its an
170 divemaster08 : If the Tourism authority gets its way, then KX will fly to PTY, and probably ruin the route as they focus on the O+D traffic only and would fail to m
171 A388 : It wouldn't make sense to base the aircraft in TT for one or a few charter flights so I don't know why beewee15 is asking this. It is however great t
172 beeweel15 : Firstly I did not mention basing the a/c in POS, The question I was asking was whether after the JFK-POS-JFK rotation the a/c will be re positioned t
173 A388 : This 744 apparently will only be used temporarily for a few flights and Caribbean Airlines will always fill the aircraft to generate income or keep c
174 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/redjet-cancels-flights1/ REDjet cancels flights There were further signs of financial trouble today at the Car
175 Post contains links caribbean484 : The Caribbean's low cost carrier is facing significant financial woes REDjet cancels flights, facing financial woes " There were further signs of fina
176 guyanam : Oh well we forcasted this. Truly why blame the Bds govt for the failure of their Trini and Guyanese and Jamaican routes? Did Barbados stop this? No t
177 2travel2know2 : RedJet owners' arrogance or lack of vision or wrong base? Maybe another would have been the outcome if Digicel had chosen to fly RedJet between GEO/P
178 caribbean484 : RD has a US.01-US$1 sale today on all flights, seems that they are desperate to fill their seats. They are going 1w to KIN fromm both POS and BGI, POS
179 baje427 : Sad that RD is probably on its way out but its not surprising BGI being CAT 2 does not help their cause RD might have had a chance operating to the US
180 andrefranca : Poor RD, they have a nice goal, but maybe it is still possible to backtrack and get better AC for their routes?
181 baje427 : I think the nail is already in the coffin
182 2travel2know2 : Maybe it was the wrong type of aircraft, the long time it took to take off, all the expectations... or just the inexperience. Any advisor with good kn
183 caribbean484 : Its a host of problems with them, wrong a/c for short routes is the first, while the MD80 is cheaper to acquire it is not meant to operate flights le
184 2travel2know2 : Need to add, never heard of RedJet cargo or courier to add some revenue to its flights..
185 andrefranca : That's FACT! There are two Caribbeans, the High season ones and the Low season one! even without experience, there were too arrogant, they did what w
186 Speedbird2263 : We say that in Jamaican Creole too my friend! Lol -2263
187 817Dreamliiner : This is sad, didn't expect them to last long though, didn't expect the redjet hype to last long either, but we'll just have to see how this turns out
188 yellowtail : Folks it was and always be very simple math.... LCCs need volume. Intra Caribbean will never equal volume.
189 baje427 : Noticed Finnair A330 is inbound to BGI anyone know why AA1385 diverted to Bermuda today also the radar in BGI seems to be inop all aircraft inbound ar
190 LimaFoxTango : Whats the latest with BW and their ATR's? I see they've been flying quite a bit. Are they happy with their performance soo far? What about the upcomin
191 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Was mentioned in this thread: Implications Of Landing Overweight? AA Emergency (by RobK Jan 12 2012 in Tech Ops)[Edited 2012-01-12 11:06:31]
192 baje427 : Thanks for the link. Does anyone know why AC 966 YYZ-BGI asked to be met by the local authorities at the gate thanks. Also is CAL using the ATR on th
193 windian425 : AA1385 diverted today due to a medical emergency. The BGI radar is currently under routine maintenance since yesterday and will be complete by tomorr
194 caribbean484 : 9Y-TTC should be in end of the month, and is said to be in JM colors. The two SwiftAir leases will be returning very soon as they have too much a/c o
195 baje427 : Thanks for the info Could that mean the Q's can be all gone by year end?
196 LIA310 : The two Swiftair ATR 72's are gone. EC-KUL left first last week and EC-KVI left more recently. The two ATR 72-600's (9Y-TTA and TTB) are now operatin
197 A388 : It still surprises me that almost no one has photographed these beautiful brandnew ATR72's in POS. The aircraft is being handled in front of the view
198 yellowtail : Any of you guys going to NAS for the Routes conference?...seems like most of the aviation world in this hemisphere will be there this year (unlike yea
199 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Well, we get only a handful of photos from the Caribbean here on A.net ( which most are taken by you in Curacao )
200 Post contains images westindian425 : You mean IAH. Atlas has both military and oil industry contracts that utilize their passenger 744s out of IAH. However, the company does have a JFK h
201 caribbean484 : Thanks, I knew they were leaving before Month's end. Sorry for my confusing remarks, yes the Dash8's will leave once the full ATR fleet is in operati
202 Post contains images A388 : LOL we must all contribute to the website and upload are best aircraft photos here, shouldn't we? Interesting do you have the links to those fan page
203 817Dreamliiner : Indeed we should, though I never mentioned it earlier, I did take some pics of the new MNI a few years ago and tried uploading them here when my acco
204 Post contains images A388 : As they say in Star Wars, in time you will learn my young apprentice. Just keep photographing and you will improve. Eventually it's your skills that
205 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Actually im nearer to MAN than LHR, but ive been to LHR recently on my last trip and I agree with your statements (saw 4 A380s in the short stay ), H
206 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Hey what do you know, Just check myaviation and the pics are still there! here are some of them enjoy: MyAviation.net photo: Photo © yvan greenaway
207 Post contains links and images LIA310 : I have View Large View MediumPhoto © ASPG And here's a more in-depth facebook photo album with more pictures of 9Y-TTA: SVZM Spotters: Llegada del p
208 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : some pics I took at ANU while on my way back to the UK
209 baje427 : Nice pics are you doing a trip report ?
210 817Dreamliiner : Sorry not this time, As I didnt manage to get much pics on the 8 total legs of my trip (including to MNI), the first couple legs were kinda rushed in
211 Post contains images A388 : Yes, when you have the time, just go to LHR (or even MAN) and spend a day there for aircraft spotting. You live so close by Nice photos Dreamliiner,
212 817Dreamliiner : Thanks for the tip, ill keep this in mind yup im planning to take a day trip to MAN for planespotting, Note sure when though, but I definitely will,
213 A388 : You're welcome my friend. Just let me know if you need help. Photoshop is the most commonly used photo editing program and it's very good in my opini
214 westindian425 : Quite busy, but I've been great!! I agree with you that I doubt CAL will be paying ferrying fees. I actually considered applying to Atlas, but their
215 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : will do!
216 caribbean484 : Well man what can I say lol. Well they are expecting the LAN 763ER sometime in April, but as Yellowtail mentioned there is the very low season and th
217 Post contains links baje427 : Hi have been visiting the Jamaican forum seems FlyJam 757 has already been painted in addition, here is Ian Burns rationale for RD flight reductions w
218 Post contains images andrefranca : well they're saying no routes will be cut, in instead they're lauching suriname by next month! please stay on redjet! we need!
219 817Dreamliiner : Not too sure how long they are gonna last
220 caribbean484 : The man is a good spin doctor, he mentioned that the flights have been rescheduled and not cancelled, this man is a joker. Rescheduled means to chang
221 westindian425 : Absolutely nothing! lol... So they just have to endure a couple of months of very slow seasons, and they should be fine! I would love to see how the
222 817Dreamliiner : I think all of LAN 763s have winglets
223 baje427 : Yes I believe all of LAN's 767 are fitted with winglets I wonder however, if CAL is going to change the cabins for their operations or keep them the s
224 A388 : Why do you think Caribbean Airlines will change the cabins, their own 737 fleet comprises like 4 different cabin types (all having the cabins of thei
225 Post contains images A388 : Also, these photos have been added to the database since yesterday: This is the second airline starting flights out of Guyana: EZJet. So now Guyana EZ
226 817Dreamliiner : I remember seeing this aircraft at JFK on my to SJU in December, I dont remember if I mentioned it here or not, Good luck to them as well. But I thin
227 A388 : You are absolutely right, those liveries are not inspiring at all but that is what you get with these type of new entrants using a single leased airc
228 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Ok, I probably missed this but since when did Alitalia fly to SXM?? mentioned here: Has Anybody Regularly Flown B777s To SXM? (by richierich Jan 17 20
229 guyanam : Maybe they will not be around too long, so why waste money with elaborate livery? Guyana has a sordid history with these charters.
230 lucianflyboy : I've look up and down in this posting and didn't see a response for this. Please don't flame me if I missed it. This is a pretty long post. I noticed
231 caribbean484 : Hey man, the flights are bookable from today and will be daily starting March 11th with the Dash8. They are marketing the route from roday. Yes all o
232 Post contains links LIA310 : Copa has announced service to CUR! Flights are to begin this June. In addition to CUR. They are also going to start flights to LAS and LIR. Other dest
233 SJOtoLIR : Proposed schedule: CM 288..........PTY 09:18............CUR 12:34..........Tu, Th, Fr, Su CM 299..........CUR 13:34............PTY 14:44..........Tu,
234 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : I think A388 would be happy about this
235 Post contains images A388 : That is fantastic news but is there a official press release? Seeing is believing!!! Edit: I see their "Where we fly" link now but a official press r
236 Post contains images A388 : Wow, that is almost the same price as a return ticket AMS-CUR in the low season. In any case, it is good they are filling the flight. Too bad I'm not
237 Post contains links SJOtoLIR : Sure. Here's the dedicated thread including the official press release coming from the airline: Copa Airlines Announces New Destinations! (by shaq Ja
238 baje427 : For some reason I thought CAL would have crewed the 767 have any of the flight crew began 767 training?. Not surprised to see BGI has not been listed
239 2travel2know2 : Lets wait and see. CM Chief said Jan 25, 2012 first new destinations would be announced, who knows. I still have high hopes (or dreams) to hear confi
240 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Not to nitpick A388, but this is 'technically' not true: View Large View MediumPhoto © Barrie Lewis First two engined wide boby would be more like i
241 A388 : I totally forgot about those A343's but to me those were "inherited" from the BWIA era. Those aircraft never wore the Caribbean Airlines livery. That
242 A388 : Thanks for the link SJOtoLIR. A388
243 Post contains links BW424 : New thread up and running! Rediscover Paradise - Caribbean Aviation Thread 94 (by BW424 Jan 18 2012 in Civil Aviation)
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