cipango From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2009, 285 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 5 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 8767 times:
Hi Everyone!
Just wondering if anyone knows of the upgrade status for the US A333's. I read here that they are getting an upgrade in Economy and also getting the new envoy seats.
The only aircraft that I know has an upgrade is N278AY.
boeing727 From United States of America, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 934 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8455 times:
I flew on N273AY FRA-CLT last week front row in coach and the interior of the aircraft was in pretty bad shape.
usairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3097 posts, RR: 8 Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 4 days ago) and read 8278 times:
Quoting trex8 (Reply 4): Are they putting the same J seats they have in the A332 into the -300s? And if so how many and will the galley/toilet config change?
They are the same seats as the A332. It looks like there will be 28 Envoy seats in the A333 which is a net loss of 2 Envoy seats. That is a relatively small number of premium seats although PHL and CLT aren't exactly huge premium markets.
D L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 10557 posts, RR: 53 Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8185 times:
Quoting usairways85 (Reply 5): They are the same seats as the A332. It looks like there will be 28 Envoy seats in the A333 which is a net loss of 2 Envoy seats
Can anyone explain why the 333 couldn't support 30 seats while the 332 could?
Quoting usairways85 (Reply 5): That is a relatively small number of premium seats although PHL and CLT aren't exactly huge premium markets.
I dunno... I personally preferred connecting in PHL to get on the US 332 versus EWR to fly CO's product because US has the Envoy Suite.
DesertFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 474 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8068 times:
What are the changes to the Y product? New seats or are they just increasing the pitch?
timf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 954 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7932 times:
Quoting D L X (Reply 6): Can anyone explain why the 333 couldn't support 30 seats while the 332 could?
The 332 has 20 J seats, not 30, because that is all they can fit in the forward section of the aircraft. Many airlines extend the J cabin beyond the second set of doors due to the smaller forward cabin of the -200, but US Airways does not. Interestingly, Delta plans to fit an extra row of the new style J seats in the forward section of the -300 compared to US Airways even though both are using virtually the same seat. The space probably comes from reducing the footprint of galley and lavatory space within the forward cabin and instead using space at the front of the second cabin.
boberito6589 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 239 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7795 times:
Aircraft 275 that is being refurbished right now should be out of the shop on 12/30 and Aircraft 277 should be out of the shop on 1/26.
etops1 From Puerto Rico, joined Nov 2005, 844 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7701 times:
As you can see. There are 28 seats in envoy class and economay has been upgraded to new seats with new panasonic AVOD system .I took these pics while working FCO-PHL last month on A/C 278. The only plane outfitted as of now .
D L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 10557 posts, RR: 53 Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7652 times:
Quoting timf (Reply 8): The 332 has 20 J seats, not 30
Sorry, my mistake.
Quoting etops1 (Reply 10): As you can see. There are 28 seats in envoy class and economay has been upgraded to new seats with new panasonic AVOD system .I took these pics while working FCO-PHL last month on A/C 278. The only plane outfitted as of now .
Fantastic!
I'm looking forward to flying J again. Hopefully it is in the cards soon.
DesertFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 474 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7576 times:
Quoting etops1 (Reply 10): I took these pics while working FCO-PHL last month on A/C 278. The only plane outfitted as of now .
It looks good. Except for the 762, US will have a very consistent hard product once these upgrades are complete. Quite a decent product actually.
boberito6589 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 239 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7267 times:
Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 12): Isn't 275 suppose to be the next aircraft to be done?
Quoting boberito6589 (Reply 9): Aircraft 275 that is being refurbished right now should be out of the shop on 12/30 and Aircraft 277 should be out of the shop on 1/26.
chepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 5968 posts, RR: 12 Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7002 times:
Both the 762 and 757 will have a different Envoy seats other than the 330's. The 762 Envoy cabin was recently upgraded so I doubt they will make any changes to it soon, not sure what the long term plan with the TATL 757's J cabin is. Etops 1 does the 333's new IFE have a flight tracker on it? Is it the smae to the 332 IFE system?
rjm777ual From UK - England, joined Nov 2011, 246 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6777 times:
Well US will have to retire their 767-200's soon, so this is pointless, as will AA. But if US keeps it on the routes it is now, i could see at least five more years for the 762.
chepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 5968 posts, RR: 12 Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6710 times:
No, to my knowledge there has never been a mod to the 333 IFE until now. However, when the extra rows were added to the 333 the IFE on these aircraft started having issues. Some say it was due to the extra seats, but who really knows.
boberito6589 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 239 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6389 times:
Quoting rjm777ual (Reply 18): Well US will have to retire their 767-200's soon, so this is pointless, as will AA. But if US keeps it on the routes it is now, i could see at least five more years for the 762.
Someone on here has said that the 762 is going to be flying with US until 2017, which would be about 5 years from now, Its also rumored that these aircraft are going to be getting some kind of upgrade in Enovy.
USAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2681 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6277 times:
Quoting boberito6589 (Reply 20): Its also rumored that these aircraft are going to be getting some kind of upgrade in Enovy.
Unfortunately, I have heard the opposite. The current "lie-flat" seats serve their purpose, and will likely do so until the B767s retirement. Remember, these birds primarily fly leisure routes to Europe and the Caribbean, so a fancy new Envoy cabin isn't necessairly needed.
Quoting chepos (Reply 16): not sure what the long term plan with the TATL 757's J cabin is.
I'm pretty sure we will see a new J cabin in the near future, probably a flat bed seat a la CO. In addition, we will likely see new Y seats, and AVOD throughout.
Quoting chepos (Reply 16): Etops 1 does the 333's new IFE have a flight tracker on it? Is it the smae to the 332 IFE system?
The refurbed A333s carry the new IFE system, the Panasonic ex2. The ex2 features the Panasonic Voyager. The unrefurbished A333s carry the Sony P@ssport throughout the plane, and the US A333 was the first plane to have AVOD in all classes I believe. (At the time, US had a International First Class cabin. Envoy was the name of International J)
Flighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 7435 posts, RR: 2 Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6229 times:
The US 762 is newly upgraded (by their standards) and probably would not be touched again until they are retired. This A333 upgrade is great for US -- adds commonality, reduces weight, and probably is way more accommodating to pax. It will be good for the second half of that A333 fleet's career. The one remaining question is their 757 fleet actually. Some on here have said they will be upgraded in advance of roughly 10 more years in service. What is the US longhaul fleet including 757 ETOPS?
etops1 From Puerto Rico, joined Nov 2005, 844 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6118 times:
From what I know from a good source ,they are on the fence with the 757 . They know they have to keep up with the competition but is it enough to spend money on an upgrade. They are not quite sure if they are going to keep the 757 or not but they just can't find a replacement . I think that in the end ,they are going to be forced to do some kind of upgrade on the 757. And to Chepos , Yes . the upgraded A330's have the flight map installed. There is a huge screen middle the bulkhead of each cabin displaying the map. Also the entertainment system is the new Panasonic system . The economy seats have more room between them as well because they are skinnier than the old seats installed .They did a good job on it .
rjm777ual From UK - England, joined Nov 2011, 246 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6029 times:
US could stop using A330's on their PHL-SJU routes and replace it with the 757outfitted with winglets, or the A321. Then they could use their a330's on an Asian route, possibly SEA-NRT.
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25 DeltAirlines: Why would US ever consider flying to Asia out of Seattle, especially to Tokyo? US has absolutely no feed in SEA aside from their hubs; there is a Sta
26 boberito6589: The flights to SJU seem to get whatever equipment is available, It may be scheduled as a A330 but it will probably swap to something else day of depa
27 PHLwok: Typically, the A330 that does a daylight PHL-SJU round trip is the operational spare aircraft that RONs in PHL and goes to Europe if one of the other
28 boberito6589: 275 Return to Service has been pushed back to Jan 4th.
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