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ANA 787 New Routes - Seattle And San Jose  
User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2735 posts, RR: 58
Posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 22638 times:

Just saw this on the news wire. NH will launch new routes from Narita to Seattle and San Jose next Fiscal Year. Equipment will be 787.

Will try and get more info and some links soon. . .

Regards,

Hamlet69


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User currently offlineredrooster3 From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 229 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 22635 times:

Quoting Hamlet69 (Thread starter):
Seattle and San Jose

This is great news!!!!!!! Who's next? DEN, SAN?

NH using what the plane was made for! Fantastic!



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User currently onlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8544 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 22644 times:
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Do you know which San Jose? SJC or SJO? SJC seems a little odd considering how close it is to SFO, on the other hand SJO seems unlikely due to traffic volumes, although it is meant to become a *A hub next year.

edited to add: ooops, never mind, looks like SJC according to this:

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...ights-to-u-s-next-fiscal-year.html

[Edited 2011-12-21 00:38:29]


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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15719 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 22538 times:

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 2):
edited to add: ooops, never mind, looks like SJC according to this:

Definitely SJC. SFO is a big market, but getting a destination close to Silicon Valley is likely to be successful.



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User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2735 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 22507 times:

Kiwiandrew,

Yes, sorry. Should have been more specific. It is indeed NRT-SEA and NRT-SJC. Thanks for posting the link. I'm on my phone and was having a bloody hard time getting it to copy the URL.

Nothing yet on NH's website. Was hoping for more detail than "beginning next Fiscal Year." The article vaguely references April 1, but I believe that's merely when NH's fiscal years start.


Hamlet69



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User currently offlineAeroBlogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 22466 times:

SJC?  Wow!. That's a surprise. It'll have to rely on a lot of O&D. No connection opportunities at SJC...

I was hoping that they'd give JAL a run for their money and launch BOS. Another *A connection would be brilliant. I guess I've gotta keep dreaming  



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15719 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 22406 times:

Quoting AeroBlogger (Reply 5):
That's a surprise. It'll have to rely on a lot of O&D. No connection opportunities at SJC...

But there are at NRT. Pretty much all of the traffic between Silicon Valley and component suppliers and factories in Asia could find use for this flight. Granted AA couldn't make it work, but I think ANA has the right plane and the right route at the right time.



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User currently offlineAeroBlogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 22275 times:

Yeah, I guess that's true. It just seems as though flying out of SFO would be more convenient for the vast majority of pax...


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User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3123 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 22189 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 6):
Granted AA couldn't make it work, but I think ANA has the right plane and the right route at the right time.

Exactly, well saqid. The M11 & 777 were too much aircraft for this route, but the 787 is perfect. Plus all those tech travellers will love flying the most technilogicaly advanced plane in the sky. This will be a winner for NH.

I don't think they will need much feed out of SJC, I bet O/D can make this route work. And heck it's not like UA can connect passengers to DEN, and beyond. Some may use the convienient airport that is SJC, rather than the mega-plex SFO, plus a 787 flight will draw some just for the ride. I'd fly into SJC to fly a 787 and drive north if I lived in the city still.

Lets not forget NH has lots of connections available on the NRT end of things. Good luck NH.

Also, isn't this the first 787 route announced for SEA? way to bring the birds home every so often, I know dedicated flyers in PDX that are used to taking UAX to SEA to catch a UA non-stop to NRT, not sure if they still fly this route, but those passengers will also love the 787 vs the 747 and 777 used in the past on UA. Again, congrats NH.

Maybe in the future a PDX flight to compete with DL, usually PDX-NRT flights cost more than SEA-NRT, competition could be a good thing for consumers. But I see DEN before PDX.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15719 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 22162 times:

Quoting AeroBlogger (Reply 7):
It just seems as though flying out of SFO would be more convenient for the vast majority of pax...

They don't need the vast majority, just around 260 or so per day. They shouldn't have too much trouble finding that many people going to Asia from the South Bay area and Silicon Valley. The biggest competition will likely be nonstops to China and Southeast Asia from SFO, but getting there from the South Bay area isn't exactly a picnic. I think that one key is that ANA should time the flights for connections to the rest of Asia rather than focusing on just O&D.



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User currently offlinewarden145 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 502 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 22150 times:

Quoting AeroBlogger (Reply 7):
It just seems as though flying out of SFO would be more convenient for the vast majority of pax...

FWIW I know a considerable number of high-end business travelers who would happily choose SJC over SFO if the choice is available, even if SFO's the closer airport. I'm guessing that that's what this service is directed at...we'll see if there are enough people like that to fill a 787.

Anyone have any idea whether the flight will be daily, or how many times weekly?



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User currently offlineAeroBlogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 22125 times:

Quoting warden145 (Reply 10):

Anyone have any idea whether the flight will be daily, or how many times weekly?

Didn't say in the official press release from ANA. To be honest, the press release didn't really say much about anything...



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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5727 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 22112 times:

SEA?!?! HOORAAAAAY!
Being ANC based, that makes Tokyo just one stop on a NICE Star carrier (compared to UA's rather mediocre offering) for us!


User currently onlineaklrno From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 922 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 22028 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 6):

Yeah, I guess that's true. It just seems as though flying out of SFO would be more convenient for the vast majority of pax...

Most people who live elsewhere don't realize that more people live in San Jose than San Francisco. Add in Cupertino, Mountain View, Los Altos, Los Gatos and Palo Alto and you have a lot of wealthy tech people who would rather go to a smaller much more convenient airport. As for connections, SJC is well connected to the western US via WN and far less subject to flights delayed by weather. I would much rather connect to Asia via SJC than SFO. In fact, I won't connect to ANYWHERE via SFO.


User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 21952 times:

I think San Jose has a chance. I bet it has a pretty low risk of loosing too much money since the o&d is so high in the area to Japan and the area with connections. Probably worthe gamble

Quoting redrooster3 (Reply 1):
This is great news!!!!!!! Who's next? DEN, SAN?

Its looking less and less likely that DEN can pull in ANA IMHO. Its not like they havn't been trying for years and already spent tons of money on trips to Japan to try to get the service. It just doesn't seem like ANA wants to bight on their offers? DEN has been offering incentives and begging ANA for years and they don't seem interested. United seems to have zero interest in DEN internationally unfortunitely so i don't see them looking to encourage ANA but they should IMHO to differentiate the product from southwest and frontier.


User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 21768 times:

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 14):
Its looking less and less likely that DEN can pull in ANA IMHO. Its not like they havn't been trying for years and already spent tons of money on trips to Japan to try to get the service. It just doesn't seem like ANA wants to bight on their offers? DEN has been offering incentives and begging ANA for years and they don't seem interested. United seems to have zero interest in DEN internationally unfortunitely so i don't see them looking to encourage ANA but they should IMHO to differentiate the product from southwest and frontier.

I just decided to take a look really quick at Anet while I was replying to some emails from over night before I fly into work and I can say that this is a big surprise to those of us at UA who would usually know this kind of thing. The routes aren't a surprise, but the fact that DEN was not included today is a bit surprising.....

Take that FWIW



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User currently offlinetayser From Australia, joined Mar 2008, 1125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 21660 times:

MEL has no direct Japanese connections - QF via SYD, JQ via OOL/CNS, CX via HKG or SQ via SIN are the main options - and a 332-sized plane is the best size and it's about a 10-10.5 hour trip (theoretically allowing 1 plane = 1x daily service) on MEL-NRT/HND.

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30600 posts, RR: 84
Reply 17, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 21620 times:
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Quoting Hamlet69 (Thread starter):
NH will launch new routes from Narita to Seattle...

Finally. We've heard rumors of it since NH ordered the 7E7 back in 2004.  
Quoting RWA380 (Reply 8):
Also, isn't this the first 787 route announced for SEA?
Hainan Airlines announced Beijing to Seattle service in August 2007. They intended to start with leased A330-200s and then switch to the 787 once the aircraft was delivered (originally in June 2008) and I expect the 787-8 will replace the A330-200 when it eventually arrives.


User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 942 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 21500 times:
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FINALLY... I've been hoping San Jose would land an Asian carrier for several years. The flight should do great, spcecially a 787...

The 777 seemed too large for the San Jose market (ask American), but the 787 should fit like a glove at SJC

congrats San Jose


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7991 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 21402 times:

I'm surprised that NH didn't try to get route authority for a flight between SJC and HND, though getting back to central Tokyo from NRT is not as bad as it used to be, thanks to the JR Narita Express and Keisei Skyliner trains.

User currently offlinecslusarc From Canada, joined May 2005, 838 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 21242 times:

I am highly doubting that NH has a solid business case for using low density 788s configured with 46J/112Y. I really feel that NH will struggle filling its premium Business Class cabin as North American's are more reluctant to buy premium fares.


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User currently offlineAeroBlogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 21040 times:

Quoting RayChuang (Reply 19):
I'm surprised that NH didn't try to get route authority for a flight between SJC and HND, though getting back to central Tokyo from NRT is not as bad as it used to be, thanks to the JR Narita Express and Keisei Skyliner trains.

I'm not. There is no way that they are going to be able to fill this plane on pax going directly to TYO. They will have to be including pax connecting to Asia. Therefore, it's a waste of a slot to use HND for SJC, when a lot of the pax won't benifit from the closeness to Tokyo anyway...



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User currently offlinesxf24 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 21040 times:

Quoting cslusarc (Reply 20):
I am highly doubting that NH has a solid business case for using low density 788s configured with 46J/112Y. I really feel that NH will struggle filling its premium Business Class cabin as North American's are more reluctant to buy premium fares.

Business traffic, which there is a lot of between the US west coast and Japan, buys premium fares.


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Reply 23, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 20846 times:

congrats to ANA, but surprised they didn't use it to attempt to penetrate non-StarAlliance-strongholds like DFW or ATL or even make the first TPAC flight out of PHL.

User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2070 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 20702 times:

Quoting AeroBlogger (Reply 21):
They will have to be including pax connecting to Asia.

There is a large Vietnamese community in San Jose area who could to the connection if ANA have connection to HCM.
They will have to compete with EVA or Asiana on pricing though.

Now, if Vietnam Airlines can do San Jose to HCM directly with their 787, then it's a no-brainier.

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25 Post contains links aal151heavy : Here is the official press release from ANA: http://www.ana.co.jp/eng/aboutana/press/2011/111221.html Great news for SJC! Ben
26 Nimish : If I could dream - then a NRT-BLR connection would work very well with the SJC-NRT flight - I know employees from large tech companies in the bay (mos
27 cslusarc : True, but business traffic isn't returning to historic levels yet. Employers are becoming less likely to buy business and first class tickets because
28 Coronado990 : Great news for SJC! Congratulations! It's good to see new international destinations from second tier California airports instead of the usual LAX and
29 ERJ170 : I like the idea of using the 787 for 2nd tier cities while keeping 777 and 747s for their major cities.. I wonder if there will be further expansion o
30 BoeingGuy : AA couldn't make anything work at SJC. Note that AA dropped such routes as SJC-HNL, SJC-OGG, which AS and HA do very very well on. AA can't make lots
31 Post contains images laca773 : It will be very interesting to see what UA does when NH starts the service. Most of us know NH has a much better in flight product over UA. ! Congrat
32 GRUIAD : Yes this makes me wonder if actually an agreement between NH and UA has been reached whereby NH takes over the SEA-NRT route. UA's segment fares on S
33 mogandoCI : Aren't they JV over the Pacific ?
34 RoseFlyer : With the Joint Venture now in place between ANA and UA, this is now legal. I assume that UA will end up cutting SEA-NRT service. It's their worst per
35 GRUIAD : Yes this decision would be made within the JV structure.
36 Post contains images kiwiandrew : No need for apologies! It is very interesting news, thanks for starting the thread. It's just as a former travel agent I have enough nightmare storie
37 BoeingGuy : Slightly off topic, but I remember being at DFW and seeing AA flights from adjacent gates loading for SJC and SJO (surprised they didn't have the SJD
38 boilerla : Yeah I'd take this as a swift kick to the crotch if I were UA. UA has all but given up on SJC; it's got no mainline on PMUA routes (which is just LAX
39 Post contains links ADent : I won't count DEN out yet. I figure ANA is going to be gun shy on announcing routes since the 787 keeps taking delays ( see http://www.reuters.com/ar
40 Nutsaboutplanes : You beat me to this. I would say that it is almost a given that UA will end SEA-NRT especially with the SEA gate shuffle.....not having a T7 in Seatt
41 mikesairways : There are still a mix of Airbii and 757's SJC-DEN as well as a RJ or two.
42 mikesairways : This is awesome news for SJC and it couldn't have come a at a better time. New flights are being added (HA to OGG and AS to HNL). Maybe some of the ot
43 TOMMY767 : Considering AA flew SJC-NRT through 2006 or 2007, this is a great thing that ANA is coming in ORD still sees UA 757s. I think they do well at SJC. The
44 mikesairways : SJC-ORD stopped in 2008 (or 2009). It may be 757 ORD-DEN-SJC; depending on day of the week, etc.
45 Gunsontheroof : Really surprised to see this one so soon--I thought NGO-SEA might be in the pipeline for NH, but I guess we might be seeing the end of UA long-haul at
46 mogandoCI : Wouldn't NGO-SFO arrive before NGO-SEA ? Same for KIX-LAX.
47 AADC10 : Probably nothing. UA and NH both have service to NRT from several locations, including SFO, ORD and LAX. Perhaps it will keep UA on a single daily fl
48 Gunsontheroof : Quite possibly--I was only talking about NGO with respect to what I thought the prospects of NH service to SEA would be. Boeing-Mitsubishi pax on thi
49 slcdeltarumd11 : It will be interesting to see if we hear UA leave SEA-NRT soon? They have run this route for along time but maybe the 787 is the right plane for the m
50 Viscount724 : SEA-NRT was UA's first international route in 1983 (apart from SEA-YVR and ORD-YYZ). SEA-HKG started about the same time but I think NRT was first.
51 LAXintl : Now with full the JV with ANA, no point in both doubling up on the Seattle route. UA can take the 777 and do something more profitable with it. (also
52 BoeingGuy : AA and CO also pulled out of OAK. They still do SJC though. I thought UA's first international route after the long-standing YVR and YYZ routes that
53 Gunsontheroof : I suspect you're right. It'll be a shame to see UA finally turn off the lights at SEA, but it's been a long-time coming and probably makes a lot of s
54 BoeingGuy : Not sure I understand. Pre-merger UA still flies a fair amount of flights out of SEA, even if (and it's still very much a big "if") the NRT flight is
55 IrishAyes : It's also a win-win for the Star Alliance loyals out in the Bay Area; they can fly out of SJC and still earn RDMs and EQMs on NH. Why would they do t
56 UAL747DEN : Things make much more sense now then they did this morning! It really didn't feel good to read the news here but it's not nearly as bad as it seemed
57 RoseFlyer : I believe it ended when the Pan Am purchase happened in the 1980s and didn’t resume again until about 1997 on a 747. In the late 90s SEA-NRT has AA
58 LAXDESI : As per Flightglobal, the long haul ANA 788 is configured with 46 Business Staggered product and 112 economy class seats(8-abreast). Based on current f
59 ER757 : And UA had 747 classics on the route before that (ORD/SEA/NRT in the 80's). Didn't CO fly a 747 SEA/NRT for a short while? I remember seeing the CO 7
60 flyibaby : I was wondering about this myself - with SFO just down the road using a NH 777 - do you think NH will really go after cargo for the SJC route when sh
61 laca773 : Today SJC-DEN has 752, CR7, 752, 319 same for (Monday & Tuesday, 12-19/20). Pulling SJC-ORD still doesn't make sense as to why UA did it to me.
62 boilerla : Sorry yeah, I forgot about the A319s. The schedule that's loaded for April has it as 2 CR7s and 2 A320s. Not exactly a hotbed of activity but better
63 DIA77 : Do you have any news that you can give us hints on?? Is DEN going to be announced by ANA at a later date or is UA actually considering launching DEN-
64 TOMMY767 : I definitely don't see SEA-NRT going away for UA.
65 Post contains links and images Viscount724 : Longhaul seat map from NH website:
66 MarcoPoloWorld : Seattle is in a great position geographically for service to Asia, and the addition of SEA seems like a good move by NH. The addition of San José is
67 LAXDESI : Assuming 8 LD3 positions for baggage which is very generous, 20 LD3 positions at industry standard weight yields about 38,000 lbs. of cargo capacity.
68 wedgetail737 : It's great to see our wonderful PNW city getting a 2nd international carrier...1. Emirates 2. ANA! It will be interesting to see what UA does with the
69 Post contains images Hamlet69 : Agreed!! Although, like Gunsontheroof, I was expecting a SEA-NGO route, or maybe SEA-KIX. I was pegging JL to start SEA-NRT first. Afterall, and corr
70 kiwiandrew : BR aren't in *A, although there are certainly rumours about them being announced as a future member.
71 flySFO : The majority of companies that make up "Silicon Valley" are centered a few miles north of downtown San Jose, but then again, so is SJC. Some of the o
72 Post contains images warden145 : Sounds about right to me...as I mentioned before, I know many people (most of whom are corporate business travelers) who will choose SJC over SFO wit
73 Gunsontheroof : At this point they clock in at just over six percent of traffic at SEA...not terribly impressive. The only non-hub routes are NRT, ANC and PDX and I'
74 RWA380 : Yes, this was UA's first TPAC and long haul Intl route, interesting fact, This route was an ORD-SEA-NRT routing, except for Tuesday, then this flight
75 mogandoCI : Going from UA 77E to NH 788 ... wouldn't that be a major shrinkage of seats ? (it's mostly in Y so maybe yield might get a lift) There must be a siza
76 BoeingGuy : Agree totally. You must l live around my mother (near Tully & 101). Same thing. I can call someone during taxi-in to SJC, as I will tonight, and
77 Post contains links hippocampes : Actually UA/CO combined would place them as the second largest carrier at SEA, after Alaska Air Group (AS/QX combined), just a bit ahead of DL. That'
78 phishphan70 : You obviously don't live in the Bay Area. I live in Palo Alto, and can get to either airport without too much hassle. However, I will gladly pay extr
79 Post contains images ASA : shouldn't your id be flySJC then? jokes aside, totally agree with you. I go to the bay area frequently, and SJC is certainly much easier to use ... t
80 YULWinterSkies : A SJC 101 question for me: what intercontinental destinations are served out of SJC at the moment? I was at SFO recently and was literally shocked (in
81 mikesairways : Don't you just want to say neeener neeener neeeener to SFO!
82 alexinwa : If UA kept SEA-NRT it would be a miracle. However, the issue of the UA 777 vs. the NH 787 is a interesteing loss in capacity. As a UA fan it would be
83 anonms : I feel like a part of it is the name; internationally, San Francisco is still much more well-known than San Jose is. When I'm abroad, saying I live n
84 wedgetail737 : Some international airlines have mentioned SEA as being the perfect 787 market, including QF, Shanghai Airlines and Hainan Airlines. As more and more
85 Post contains links warden145 : At the moment, SJC doesn't have any intercontinental flights...the only international flights are Volaris flights to Mexico. NH's 787 flight will be
86 Tomassjc : Don't forget AS to GDL and SJD as well...
87 smoot4208 : I think NRT-DEN and NRT-SAN would do very well as well on the 787
88 Post contains images MarcoPoloWorld : Well Captain, I very much do live in the Bay Area. What is it about the SJC airport that you like, by the way, my friend? The Greyhound-bus-station-l
89 Post contains images warden145 : Thank you, I actually did forget that AS is doing those flights from SJC...
90 hippocampes : I don't think SJC-NRT with 158-seat 787 is about point-to-point. On one end SJC might not get much connecting traffic, but on the other end, NRT is t
91 wedgetail737 : Does SAN have a long enough runway to handle a SAN-NRT flight? I guess if BA can do SAN-LHR with a 777-200ER. I would like to think that ANA will sta
92 anonms : I live in Fremont. I'd rather go to SFO since I find SFO to be a significantly more pleasant and comfortable airport to travel through (their lack of
93 wedgetail737 : SFO definitely has more to choose when it comes to international service...ha! Master of the Obvious. But how can you pass up a ride on the Dreamline
94 anonms : I've mainly been flying domestic lately. VX + SFO IT/T2 > WN + SJC TA/TB IMO. That said, next time I do go over to Asia, I definitely want to try
95 sjc30l : It would be great if SJC could also add a flight to/from a European hub.
96 aklrno : I think the number one thing I look for in an airport is that airplanes are able to arrive and depart. SJC is better at that than SFO. There may be o
97 Post contains images MarcoPoloWorld : Good point... well taken! On-time performance is hugely important, for sure. But honestly - and I am not kidding you - in the ten years I've been fly
98 wedgetail737 : Probably pretty obvious, but I think SFO ATC gives international flights precedence over other flights.
99 BoeingGuy : Yes, correct. It was on the east side about halfway down the runways towards highway 880. It was a tiny little building. Then you'd have to bus back
100 aklrno : My impression is that when things start to back up they hold flights on the ground. A flight arriving from AKL or SYD may have been in the air many h
101 Post contains images Osprey88 : I too wonder just what Chuck Reid offered ANA to get them to come to SJC and where on earth he is getting the money for it. Exactly, for me SJC is 5
102 legacyins : Quote from the Mercury news. "As a long-distance hauler, All Nippon will receive the most generous package available. It won't have to pay airport fe
103 Post contains links hippocampes : Hmmm... FAA considers any incentive package beyond the initial two-year period to be out of compliance. http://www.faa.gov/airports/airport_...dia/ai
104 Post contains images sunrisevalley : Adding to LAXDESI's work using Piano X . ANA 's max volume limited payload will be about 34t eastbound NRT-SJC . Assuming their aircraft are about 118
105 Airbus3801 : This is true, and somehow not surprising really - in the giddiness people get in to attract business in these economic times, they often overlook the
106 wedgetail737 : Has ANA set an official inaugural date for the two destinations yet?
107 BoeingGuy : Not only that, but they aren't yet loaded in ANA's schedule. I just looked for some dates in September and October to leave SJC and return to SEA and
108 wedgetail737 : I saw on the ANA North America website that schedules may have changed due to 787 delivery delays. Maybe ANA will send 777-200ER's to SEA and SJC bri
109 legacyins : The announcement stated fiscal 12/13. The only thing they said was the routes will be flown by the 787. So, nothing will be loaded until they get " mo
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