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First 2-Class Cabin CO Q400 In Service  
User currently offlinetpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 452 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 10 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 14269 times:

This past Weds saw the first reconfig'd Q400 fly EWR-IAD. But it isn't being promoted as such yet

per CO-"The aircraft has been reconfigured from 74 Economy class seats to 7 First class and 64 Economy seats. However, because this is the only Q400 that is reconfigured, all of our applications and systems will treat this flight as a single-cabin Economy aircraft"

I think a 2 cabin prop is some what of a novelty! I am unaware of too many others out there

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User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2669 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 14160 times:

Does this aircraft have E+?

User currently offlineJackbr From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 666 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 14130 times:

Is F at the rear as per the original F/Y layouts of props?

User currently offlinemhkansan From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 702 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 13980 times:

Quoting Jackbr (Reply 2):

The Q's board from the front. The F cabin will be located at the front of the cabin.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 13968 times:

There was a prototype flying around the fleet since August of 2010. Didn't realize it took this long to fully roll out.


What gets measured gets done.
User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 13709 times:

Wait.... wasn't one of the merger requirements "All hub-to-hub to be mainline" ? Or is EWR-IAD exempted from it due to proximity ?

User currently onlinesralfalo From Germany, joined Nov 2005, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12530 times:
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Would love to have a ride in those chairs

Lars


User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 11961 times:

Are there any pics of the cabin?

User currently offlineixemctdca From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 11670 times:

Quoting sralfalo (Reply 6):
Would love to have a ride in those chairs

Lars

That looks oh so old school   



-ixemctdca
User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8635 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 11670 times:

The only prop first class cabin in the US for... how many years? It must be 30 yrs?

User currently offlineoflanigan From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 11498 times:

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 5):

Wait.... wasn't one of the merger requirements "All hub-to-hub to be mainline" ? Or is EWR-IAD exempted from it due to proximity ?

Isn't that just Pre CO hub to hub for now. They will have to resolve CO to UA and vice versa hub to hub.


User currently offlinerdh3e From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1730 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 11014 times:

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 5):
Wait.... wasn't one of the merger requirements "All hub-to-hub to be mainline" ? Or is EWR-IAD exempted from it due to proximity ?
Quoting oflanigan (Reply 10):
Isn't that just Pre CO hub to hub for now. They will have to resolve CO to UA and vice versa hub to hub.

It's not a "merger" requirement. It's in the Pilot agreements for both airlines. However, because the agreements specify the hubs of the pre-merger entities, UA/CO Express can fly between "each others" hubs.


User currently offlineYTZ From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 2071 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 10560 times:

This is even better than business on an RJ or a narrowbody. Nobody beside you at all.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25652 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10052 times:

Quoting YTZ (Reply 12):
This is even better than business on an RJ or a narrowbody. Nobody beside you at all.

LH guarantees business class passengers within Europe that the seat next to them will be empty, including 4-abreast regional types like CRJs and Embraer 195s etc. On those types you have 2 seats to yourself in business class.

And on 6-abreast types the middle seat is unsold (as on almost all European carriers with a flexible business/economy cabin using Y class seats).

I'm not sure whether any carriers other than LH match their policy on 4-abreast types of only selling one of each pair of seats.

On LX Avro RJ100s (5-abreast, 2-3), the middle seat in the 3-seat section isn't sold but on the 2-seat side both seats are used. Always best to select a seat in the 3-seat section on LX Avros for that reason.


User currently offlineAirlineReporter From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 9964 times:

This is AWESOME and it would be great to see some photos of the interior.

I have reached out to United media, but with the holidays, I am not sure how that will go.

I have learned the aircraft is N323NG that has the first class.
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Conti...d=b85548e7e1eaa132958e20baf8135b89

Looks like it is flying from PIT to IAD tomorrow. There isn't a chance someone will be flying on it is there?  

David


User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4520 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9891 times:

Congrats to Colgan Air for having this unique aircraft offering.

User currently offlinesldispatcher From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 408 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9458 times:

At least they deserve credit for attempting to offer this. I would think this will appease some of the frequent fliers.....in some of the markets, it is nice to see first class returning to several markets that had not seen it in years since the arrival of the 50 seat RJ.

Personally, I'd take fewer Q400 flights to serve an airport over multiple SAAB flights 90 minutes apart any day of the week.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20741 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 8902 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 1):
Does this aircraft have E+?

Not yet, but the UA rep who posted the announcement last night on FlyerTalk said they'd add E+ to the Q400s "in the next few months".



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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3562 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 8623 times:

There was this discussion awhile back.

Do Any Turboprops Have F/J Class? (by bjorn14 Feb 24 2011 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offlineCiC From Germany, joined Jun 2010, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5775 times:

What's the seat pitch on these new F seats?
At LH Regional the seat next to you is free in C, but the seatpitch doesn't change compared to Y... same seats!


User currently offlinephllax From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 441 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 4848 times:

Quoting Flighty (Reply 9):
The only prop first class cabin in the US for... how many years? It must be 30 yrs?

Actually no, when US and BA were tied up, they offered an all F Dash 8 from DCA-JFK to connect with Concorde. I don't know how long it lasted.


User currently offlineLOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1168 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 4673 times:

Quoting rdh3e (Reply 11):
It's not a "merger" requirement. It's in the Pilot agreements for both airlines. However, because the agreements specify the hubs of the pre-merger entities, UA/CO Express can fly between "each others" hubs.

That explains the E145s on DEN-IAH...


User currently offlinerdh3e From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1730 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (2 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 4628 times:

Quoting LOWS (Reply 21):
That explains the E145s on DEN-IAH...

Yes, currently there are express on ORD-CLE, ORD-EWR, IAD-EWR, IAH-IAD, IAH-DEN. All of that will most likely disappear with a new agreement.

Quoting CiC (Reply 19):
What's the seat pitch on these new F seats?

The First seats have 36" pitch, Y+ will have 33" I believe.


User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2436 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (2 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 4621 times:

Quoting LOWS (Reply 21):

That explains the E145s on DEN-IAH...

I always found that flight interesting, considering that it is presently bookended in the schedule by a pair of 216-seat 757-300s.

I suppose with all the ExpressJet ERJs operating out of DEN these days, there needs to be more ways to cycle aircraft through the system to maintenance bases.


User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 4307 times:

Will the lav on these Q400 be moved to the back ?

25 SXDFC : Does anyone have any pictures of this aircraft with First Class seats?
26 drerx7 : And a UA 752 in the middle...
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