leftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 656 posts, RR: 1 Posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 13542 times:
In addition to the 6 destinations announced earlier (as reported here: TK To Start 6 New Destinations In 2012 (by leftyboarder Nov 19 2011 in Civil Aviation)), TK outlines plans for yet another set of 6 points to start in 2012:
HAJflyer From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 1466 posts, RR: 10 Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13196 times:
Wow, I never would have expected to see TK in the Congo. If I count correctly TK is now the third Star Alliance carrier after SN Brussels and Ethiopian to serve FIH. Given the fact that the economy is expected to cool globally and thus commodity prices are likely to head south as well, this is a fairly adventurous move.
migair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1280 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 13046 times:
They said time ago that they are planning to expand very much in Africa when more B737-900ER arrive into the fleet...
LEJ and BRE are more logical given the number of turkish living in Germany...
For me EDI it´s a real surprise... I never imagine TK flying there.....
How many planes are arriving the fleet in 2012?? to open 14 destinations it must be quite a few... because I´m sure they will also add some freqs to existing ones...
HAJflyer From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 1466 posts, RR: 10 Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 12932 times:
Quoting migair54 (Reply 2): LEJ and BRE are more logical given the number of Turkish living in Germany..
OT: Those numbers are actually starting to decline. Last year 50K more people moved from Germany to Turkey than in the other direction. Not much of a surprise given the economic prospects of both countries.
leftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 656 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 12611 times:
When you come to think of it, TK serves pretty much every capital in Europe as well as some secondary cities in Italy, France, UK, Germany, Spain. It was about time to expand into the next tier of airports. I am also expecting BRS, KRK, maybe FLR, BOD, MRS, TLL, VNO... this year or next - they all make sense.
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4114 posts, RR: 13 Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11955 times:
Quoting migair54 (Reply 2): How many planes are arriving the fleet in 2012?? to
18 more planes to arrive,
I imagine 3 more 333s, 2 more 332Fs, and the rest is 321/738/739.
I wouldn't be surprised if TK took some 319s and few more Long Haul aircraft during 2012.
Quoting EddieDude (Reply 6): Oh, I missed that announcement! Is that a 77W route too? I am happy for TK. They are growing fast!!! Would love to see them in MEX.
EZE will be an add on to GRU, if ever!
MEX is high and hot, so I am not sure if it is possible but I am sure it will be on top of the list when 787/350 comes along.
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7259 posts, RR: 45 Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 11504 times:
Quoting TK787 (Reply 7): EZE will be an add on to GRU, if ever!
MEX is high and hot, so I am not sure if it is possible but I am sure it will be on top of the list when 787/350 comes along.
Thank you TK787.
I guess MEX could also be done as a tag-on from a European or North American destination.
there is a significant number of people living in Germany with Turkish background, but not so much in those cities and the surroundings. Lufthansa won't be pleased with that.
definately a field where the gulf carriers are still not existing. advantage here: they can serve it with narrowbodies whereas EK/QR/EY and the like have to use their widebodies
Quoting nitepilot79 (Reply 8):
Any word if, and or when, the 739ER might come to Adana (ADA/LTAF)? Thanks.
looks like you missed it!
Latest flights by TC-JYB
THY604 seen @ 2011-12-24 08:55 CET on route from DAR to IST via NBO
THY603 seen @ 2011-12-23 18:53 CET on route from IST to DAR via NBO
THY7NW seen @ 2011-12-23 14:29 CET on route from ADB to IST
THY6FR seen @ 2011-12-23 12:29 CET on route from IST to ADB
THY604 seen @ 2011-12-23 07:47 CET on route from DAR to IST via NBO
THY603 seen @ 2011-12-22 18:51 CET on route from IST to DAR via NBO
THY7LV seen @ 2011-12-22 12:45 CET on route from ADA to IST
THY5PH seen @ 2011-12-22 11:39 CET on route from IST to ADA
GCT64 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 1128 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 7181 times:
Quoting migair54 (Reply 2): For me EDI it´s a real surprise... I never imagine TK flying there.....
That's great news for those of us with businesses in Edinburgh. Gives us a great (and probably well priced) option (beyond connecting at LHR, CDG, AMS or FRA) for flights heading South and East. I can see us using that for HKG or SIN especially.
Carmelo From Hungary, joined Sep 2005, 121 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 7168 times:
Its not just about the turkish community living in germany; many passengers save time (and money) using SA member THY to go to the asian continent. And as far as I know it is the fastest connection to "abondoned" countries like georgia, kyrgistan etc where THY is the only present one besides the home carriers.
slcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2484 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 6892 times:
Quoting HAJflyer (Reply 3): OT: Those numbers are actually starting to decline. Last year 50K more people moved from Germany to Turkey than in the other direction. Not much of a surprise given the economic prospects of both countries.
really? 50,00 more people moved from Germany to Turkey than from turkey to Germany? Im sure that number is only measuring legal ones which is a huge factor. If thats true is it illegals or people who things didn't work out as well as they had hoped returning home? Having been to both countries i cannot see that many more people leaving Germany for Turkey. I've seen Tons of Turks everywhere i stepped in Germany and not many Germans in Turkey besides the obvious tourists.
HAJflyer From Switzerland, joined Sep 2005, 1466 posts, RR: 10 Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 6779 times:
Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 17): really? 50,00 more people moved from Germany to Turkey than from turkey to Germany? Im sure that number is only measuring legal ones which is a huge factor. If thats true is it illegals or people who things didn't work out as well as they had hoped returning home? Having been to both countries i cannot see that many more people leaving Germany for Turkey. I've seen Tons of Turks everywhere i stepped in Germany and not many Germans in Turkey besides the obvious tourists.
To the best of my knowledge it is primarily (younger) Turks who have lived in Germany and who are now returning to their motherland because they consider the economic prospects in Turkey to be more promising.
tcm From Turkey, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 6695 times:
Quoting HAJflyer (Reply 18): To the best of my knowledge it is primarily (younger) Turks who have lived in Germany and who are now returning to their motherland because they consider the economic prospects in Turkey to be more promising.
Yes that's true, especially young professionals.
Quoting Carmelo (Reply 16): Its not just about the turkish community living in germany
Most of these new routes will feed TK's expanding network. As you say it's not just about serving the Turkish community anymore.
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4114 posts, RR: 13 Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5052 times:
Quoting AirGabon (Reply 20): Do you know the schedules, the days of operations and the aircraft type for both FIH and ABJ?
No timetables yet but like in the past TK will start 3-4 x weekly and within a year or so it will go daily. More than likely the African routes will be served by the brand new 739ER aircraft (12J/168Y) with two extra fuel tanks for extended range.
TK ordered 15 of these 739ERs and the goal is within two years to increase the number of destinations served in Africa to 35.
northstar80 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 164 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4450 times:
Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 17): really? 50,00 more people moved from Germany to Turkey than from turkey to Germany? Im sure that number is only measuring legal ones which is a huge factor. If thats true is it illegals or people who things didn't work out as well as they had hoped returning home? Having been to both countries i cannot see that many more people leaving Germany for Turkey. I've seen Tons of Turks everywhere i stepped in Germany and not many Germans in Turkey besides the obvious tourists.
slcdeltarumd11, with the way the economy is in Turkey (and I assume you probably know how it is in EU as well!) you'd be suprised to know the amount of German's willing to move to Turkey. I know it sounds weird but for the job openings where I work, we receive suprisingly high amounts of EU applications to work in Turkey, anybody from workers to C-Level executives. This was not the case 5 years ago. You couldnt get a single EU resume for a job in Turkey.
You have to have your heart in the business and the business in your heart. -Thomas J Watson
alsberg From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 136 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4393 times:
Could TK make it from IST to SYD non stop? If so, what is the likelihood of seeing this route be announced in the future?
25 EddieDude: TK announced it was interested in flying to Australia a couple of years ago. IST-SYD is 9,293 miles (statute) on a Great Circle Map path. If TK launch
26 TWA772LR: I'm waiting for the eventual IAH announcement.
27 ASA: May sound like a wild idea ... but TK could lauch an IST-DAC-SYD flight. 1. DAC will only be a 0.5% detour from a non-stop route on the great circle.
28 Tupolev160: What do you mean by "MEX is high and hot"? Does it have some operational or a/c limitations? Is it an expensive route to operate? Could we have more d
31 TK787: The airport is at 7600 feet and the average year round temperature is warmer than most other places, those two factors affect the takeoff performance
32 Buyantukhaa: LOT flies to Tbilisi, Yerevan with convenient connections to/from Western Europe.
34 kiwinlondon: There was a rumour somewhere that they were looking at WLG. Seems odd to me given short runway and would have thought that if they were looking at New
35 Buyantukhaa: Not that I'm aware of! Traffic would be thin I suppose.
36 leftyboarder: In the thread starter I posted a link to another thread, there you can see that TK actually did announce IST-OVB-ULN to start next year.
37 winGl3t: I like TK expansion lately. They think outside the box! I just think that it is taking too long for them to start Luanda flights. Angola is booming an
38 Tdan: Love the expansion by TK! I just wonder if such a rapid and aggressive expansion is sustainable from both an infrastructure and profitability perspect
39 leftyboarder: If the destinations are chosen carefully, I don't think it impacts profitability negatively in the long run; maybe until loads pick up they might dra
40 Tdan: That's too bad. IST needs a world-class hub facility since TK has finally realized that they hold an incredibly strategic location for connecting tra
41 KLM747800THY: Seeing Turkish Airlines adding all these new destinations to their network, I always have to think of one of my very senior KLM crew members after lan
42 TK787: That is strange coming from a senior KLM crew member. I am sure it is only an isolated situation and not a KLM or a Western thing.
43 LondonCity: QR could serve EDI with narrow-bodies. It opened up new routes to Germany and Scandinavia with narrowbodies and, once established, upgraded these ser
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