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Who Has Taken MIA-Mexico Capacity From Mexicana?  
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6937 posts, RR: 21
Posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5306 times:

I'm looking more from the Mexican carriers standpoint. What Mexican carriers have stepped up capacity on MIA-Mexico routes? Does anyone serve FLL-Mexixo?

[Edited 2011-12-24 06:02:42]


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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7721 posts, RR: 41
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5186 times:

If I am not mistaken, MX was a late entrant to the MEX-MIA market. Before MX got cozy with AA, it did not fly to MIA... at least from MEX. For a number of years this route was served by AA and AM only, and now it is back to status quo. AM is now flying 29x weekly services to MIA from MEX btw.

AM has tried to serve MTY-MIA, but unsuccessfully; at the moment, AM is no longer flying to MIA from MTY. AM flies 4x weekly MID-MIA and 14x weekly CUN-MIA. I think that before its demise MX used to have a lot of success on the CUN-MIA route, because of the connections to HAV.

NK is now flying FLL-TLC. I would assume they will do well on this route. AM also tried MEX-FLL some time ago but it did not last long.

[Edited 2011-12-24 07:59:30]


Next flights: MEX-JFK-FCO AM 788/AZ 77E | DBV-BEG-BUD JU AT7/733 | BUD-AMS 738 | AMS-MEX 74M
User currently offlineAdam727 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5017 times:

Okay speaking of mexicana what is going on there planes just worked a flight to MEX the other day. Saw an airbus parked with the engines covered but there was one of the bigger planes there and it looked liked they were using it.

User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7721 posts, RR: 41
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4960 times:

Quoting Adam727 (Reply 2):
but there was one of the bigger planes there and it looked liked they were using it.

A 763ER was ferried to the lessor or something. There is more info on that on the Mexican Aviation Thread.



Next flights: MEX-JFK-FCO AM 788/AZ 77E | DBV-BEG-BUD JU AT7/733 | BUD-AMS 738 | AMS-MEX 74M
User currently offlineLatinPlane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2753 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4922 times:

How many flights is AA flying on MIA-MEX?

User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7721 posts, RR: 41
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4890 times:

I want to say 4 daily flights but I am not sure if I am correct.


Next flights: MEX-JFK-FCO AM 788/AZ 77E | DBV-BEG-BUD JU AT7/733 | BUD-AMS 738 | AMS-MEX 74M
User currently offlineFyano773 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 793 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4457 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Thread starter):
What Mexican carriers have stepped up capacity on MIA-Mexico routes?

AM increased capacity to MIA. Last October, AM moved 35,405 passegers, a 93% increment compared to the last year same month.

VB launched service to MIA last month. VB MTY-MIA service operates twice a week, on Mondays and Fridays

Additionally, Interjet will start MIA in 2012 first quarter:

http://eleconomista.com.mx/industria.../08/interjet-aterrizara-miami-2012

This route will become the 4th international gateway for 4O. Mexico-MIA is an important market comprised by leisure and business traffic.

Happy holidays!


User currently offlinecrAAzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 805 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4248 times:
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Quoting LatinPlane (Reply 4):
How many flights is AA flying on MIA-MEX?
Quoting EddieDude (Reply 5):
I want to say 4 daily flights but I am not sure if I am correct.

4 is correct, all on 738s through Feb. 7, 2012 when AA drops down to 2xdaily with 738s.

It's scheduled to return to 4x daily April 5th, 2012 with 3x738 and 1x757 but I'm not familiar enough with the route to say if that's going to play out or it's just that AA hasn't updated it's schedule after this date.


User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 738 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3617 times:

Quoting crAAzy (Reply 7):
4 is correct, all on 738s through Feb. 7, 2012 when AA drops down to 2xdaily with 738s.

It's scheduled to return to 4x daily April 5th, 2012 with 3x738 and 1x757 but I'm not familiar enough with the route to say if that's going to play out or it's just that AA hasn't updated it's schedule after this date.

Really? I do not see that in Sabre.

I do not imagine AA would do this to MEX. It seems to be profitable.

Last year they dropped MIA-LIM #3 in order to add MIA-MEX #4

AJMIA



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8991 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3528 times:

Quoting AJMIA (Reply 8):
I do not imagine AA would do this to MEX. It seems to be profitable.

It does indeed temporarily reduce to 2x daily starting on February 9, 2012.

Quoting AJMIA (Reply 8):
Last year they dropped MIA-LIM #3 in order to add MIA-MEX #4

I don't think that's why AA dropped their third daily flight to LIM...



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User currently offlineaacun From Mexico, joined Jan 2004, 592 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2719 times:

MIA-MEX will not be going down to 2 flights as stated before. It stays as 4 daily 737 trips. MIA-CUN does drop to 4 daily flights (from 5) between 09Feb and 03Apr when it is scheduled to go back to 5 flights. As of 11Jan Aeromexico drops their MIA-CUN route.

User currently offlinecrAAzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 805 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2438 times:
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Quoting aacun (Reply 10):

MIA-MEX will not be going down to 2 flights as stated before. It stays as 4 daily 737 trips

You are correct. I should have known better than to trust AA.com on a Saturday night when they usually make adjustments to their schedules   


User currently offlineCivilav From Mexico, joined Oct 2004, 391 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2180 times:

Quoting aacun (Reply 10):
As of 11Jan Aeromexico drops their MIA-CUN route.

Leaving American all alone to do as it pleases on the route !
Last year this time round, with Mexicana long gone, fares to Miami from Cancún with American Airlines were up to 700 dlls return and more as they were the sole players in the field.
Aeroméxico's rationale for abandoning the route after barely 6 months is beyond my comprehension.


User currently offlineFyano773 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 793 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1954 times:

AM's November 2011 traffic in MIA was up 89% compared to November 2010.

The airline carried 40,280 passengers and load factor was almost 90%. With such figures, AM became the fastest growing Latin American carrier in that airport.

Those results and the arrival of new aircrafts may encourage AM to resume MTY-MIA.

[Edited 2011-12-27 12:13:54]

User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7721 posts, RR: 41
Reply 14, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1927 times:

Quoting Fyano773 (Reply 13):
AM's November 2011 traffic in MIA was up 89% compared to November 2010.

The airline carried 40,280 passengers and load factor was almost 90%. With such figures, AM became the fastest growing Latin American carrier in that airport.

Those results and the arrival of new aircrafts may encourage AM to resume MTY-MIA.

Good for AM! Nice. But it makes the dropping of MIA-CUN even more difficult to comprehend.



Next flights: MEX-JFK-FCO AM 788/AZ 77E | DBV-BEG-BUD JU AT7/733 | BUD-AMS 738 | AMS-MEX 74M
User currently offlineordjoe From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 796 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1843 times:

Not to hijack this thread, but what is going on with the capacity from ORD, they had a lot of flights from there. Has AM really stepped it up. I do not think AA nor UA has added much, especially to the secondary Mexico markets MX served.

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