doulasc From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 670 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6058 times:
I have seen some photos of some Pan Am's DC-3s and some DC-4s wearing their
Blue Ball paint scheme. I find it amazing they had those aircraft in their fleet long enough
to wear that newer paint scheme that came out in 1957. Did these planes carry passengers
or cargo at that time?
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 27521 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5870 times:
In their January 1958 timetable, all of Pan Am's internal German services to/from West Berlin were still using DC-4s. That would have required several aircraft (16 daily departures from THF)..
The only other passenger DC-4s I can find in that timetable operated NAN-AKL-NAN 3 x week and NAN-PPG-NAN (only once every two weeks), connecting at NAN with the B377 Stratocruiser service to/from SYD.
There were still many Pan Am DC-4 (C-54) all-cargo services then, mainly on transatlantic and Latin America/Caribbean routes, also a weekly SFO-HNL and twice-weekly SEA-FAI freighter.
The only DC-3s that appear in that 1958 timetable were operated by Pan Am's various Latin American affiliates in which PA had varying degrees of ownership, but I don't think those would have been in PA livery.
By 1963 the DC-4s were gone and all the Berlin flights (by then up to about 40 daily departures from THF) used the DC-6B which were replaced by the 727-100 about 3 or 4 years later.
The postcard with N54705 says the picture was taken at IDL in 1959.
There are several pictures on the net including two on this website of Pan Am Meatball DC-4's taken at Templehof in Berlin. I believe the Miami operations were Cargo only during the time period I saw one in Miami but the aircraft could have been used for training.