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Pan Am's Douglas DC-3s In The Blue Ball Scheme  
User currently offlinedoulasc From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 551 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 10 months 3 hours ago) and read 4819 times:

I have seen some photos of some Pan Am's DC-3s and some DC-4s wearing their
Blue Ball paint scheme. I find it amazing they had those aircraft in their fleet long enough
to wear that newer paint scheme that came out in 1957. Did these planes carry passengers
or cargo at that time?

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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25638 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 1 hour ago) and read 4631 times:

In their January 1958 timetable, all of Pan Am's internal German services to/from West Berlin were still using DC-4s. That would have required several aircraft (16 daily departures from THF)..

The only other passenger DC-4s I can find in that timetable operated NAN-AKL-NAN 3 x week and NAN-PPG-NAN (only once every two weeks), connecting at NAN with the B377 Stratocruiser service to/from SYD.

There were still many Pan Am DC-4 (C-54) all-cargo services then, mainly on transatlantic and Latin America/Caribbean routes, also a weekly SFO-HNL and twice-weekly SEA-FAI freighter.

The only DC-3s that appear in that 1958 timetable were operated by Pan Am's various Latin American affiliates in which PA had varying degrees of ownership, but I don't think those would have been in PA livery.

By 1963 the DC-4s were gone and all the Berlin flights (by then up to about 40 daily departures from THF) used the DC-6B which were replaced by the 727-100 about 3 or 4 years later.


User currently offlinemilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2006 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4451 times:

I traveled to MIA in 1961, 1962, and 1963, and remember seeing both DC-3's and DC-4's in the meatball livery, and there are pictures of N19912 and N54705 on the net.

http://www.airlinefan.com/airline-ph...103939/Pan-Am/Douglas/DC-3/N19912/ - Date on the site claims picture is from 1966.

The postcard with N54705 says the picture was taken at IDL in 1959.


There are several pictures on the net including two on this website of Pan Am Meatball DC-4's taken at Templehof in Berlin. I believe the Miami operations were Cargo only during the time period I saw one in Miami but the aircraft could have been used for training.


User currently offlinewarden145 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 522 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4445 times:

FWIW I found two pics of Pan Am's DC-4's (C-54's) in the "blue ball" scheme in the archives on here...


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Photo © Ralf Manteufel



Couldn't find any DC-3 pics at all except this one:


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Photo © Dax M. Roman



If anyone has any pics of the DC-3 in the "blue ball" scheme, I would love to add copies to my collection  



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25638 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4085 times:

Quoting warden145 (Reply 3):
If anyone has any pics of the DC-3 in the "blue ball" scheme, I would love to add copies to my collection

Here's one fuzzy photo (old postcard). That aircraft, N54705, ex-C-47, was with Pan Am from 1946 to 1960.



User currently offlinepetertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3376 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4065 times:

Here's another postcard: N19912.

http://i8.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/a1/3f/b92d_3.JPG



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User currently offlinewarden145 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 522 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3936 times:

Thank you both!! Did either post-card by chance give the date/location of the pictures?

Very cool!!  



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