Airplanetire From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1809 posts, RR: 3 Posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1887 times:
About a month and a half ago, I was flying Swissair from ATL to ZRH on Swissair. I had some time to get to look around the international terminal, which we were in, to see what was there. Of course, because it was ATL, everything was mostly Delta. I didn't see one Delta MD-11 in the terminal. I saw two 777s, a 738, and the rest were just a bunch of 763s. A year ago, when I flew Delta from ATL to BRU, everything was on an MD-11 it seemed like. What happened to all the MD-11s? It was Friday this year and Monday last year, but I think that they would still fly some MD-11s on any day. Where did they all go?
Hypermike From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1001 posts, RR: 5 Reply 1, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1773 times:
Depending on the time of day, you won't see many heavies. Anytime before 2 PM and after 8 PM, most of the international fleets are over water or in a hangar.
The 777s and 763s you saw were most likely being used for domestic operations.
777guy From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 488 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1745 times:
Most of the MD-11's are on Pacific ocean flights.The time of day you were in ATL has mostly European flights out of international terminal.
Delta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 7 Reply 4, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1728 times:
I happened to fly into ATL from LAX on an MD-11, arriving about 22:30, about 2 weeks ago. Although my flight was domestic, it docked at the international terminal. The best thing is that upgrades to business class are easy, as there are 36 available seats. I had an aisle and window seat all to myself!
DeltaOwnsAll From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1173 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1718 times:
If I am correct...Delta is phasing out the MD-11s like all of the rest of the airlines that use them. Also it could have been due to timing...while in Atlanta I didn't see any MD-11s either except for one that was having its engine worked on. They don't have a great safety record at all and have bad fuel economy. Recently a Delta MD-11 on the NGO-LAX route had a problem with another fire...
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Boeing 747-311 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 795 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1659 times:
YoungDon From United States of America, joined May 2001, 306 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1655 times:
Hmmmmm, I wouldn't classify the MD-11's fuel economy as bad, but it just isn't as good as the 777's or A330's/A340's. But it does kill those types in payload capacity.
HNL-Jack From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 796 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1636 times:
Last weekend I was at Narita for several hours and saw three Delta MD-11's arrive and depart. I also see them in Nagoya frequently.
Grew up in the business and continued the family tradition.
Mikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 56 Reply 9, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1627 times:
Come to JFK and you'll see 4-5 maybe more ops per day. For a long time, we (JFK) never got the DL MD-11, now it's a very very common sight.
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 10, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1622 times:
On occasion, you may see one in the afternoon. But for the most part, the MD-11 (one of my personal favs) is assigned to Pacific and South American routes. Delta does use on on the ATL-MCO route once a day, and any flights to Japan that are nonstops stopover at LAX. I miss PDX getting them, I actually flew from ATL to PDX and back a few times just ride to on a MD-11.
Strickerje From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 723 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1619 times:
There are also MD-11's going to the Middle-East out of JFK. Two MD-11 flights per day travel from ATL to JFK, then one continues to Tel Aviv (flight 96), and the other flight number (150) ends in JFK. In like a month I think they're going to change flight 92 to a 767-300 though.
Flashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2863 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1587 times:
I know what you mean, Srbmod, but at least PDX still gets 763s, which I was surprised at... I took a 763 from SLC to PDX and back a couple weeks ago and expected it to be empty, but it was packed to the brim... completely full both times.
Modesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2634 posts, RR: 6 Reply 13, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1563 times:
If you want to see Delta MD-11's, go to LAX. I was spotting there a few months ago and at one point, there were four DL MD-11's on the ground. Two were departing for NRT and NGO while two were arriving from NRT and NGO. It was great to have four of them running around. As Strickerje said, they also fly JFK-TLV and JFK-CAI-DXB. With only 15 ships in the fleet, it's not a guarantee that you'll see them at a Delta hub.
Mikeymike From United States of America, joined May 2000, 406 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1531 times:
Are you sure....I thought it was the 777???
No No no people...no 777's on south american routes any more....TLV, CAIRO, DXB, NRT, NGO, and occasionally LGW, from ATL, JFK, and LAX...plus some domesitc jumps to MCO....and DL is NOT phasing them out contrary to popular belief.
Woodsboy From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1012 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1508 times:
Delta isnt retiring their MD-11s, they have no immediate plans to do so for 6-9 more years, this according to their website. The MD-11 still represents the the major long haul element of the fleet, neither the 767-300ER or 400ER match it and since they arent taking any more 777-200s, the MD-11 will be the one doing the higher density long haul routes. They dont do Europe anymore, they do the transpacific and JFK-Cairo/ Middle East routes as well as some S. American routes although I noticed that the ATL-Brazil flights were replaced with 763s.
Modesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2634 posts, RR: 6 Reply 18, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1498 times:
Domestic routes include ATL-LAX and CVG-LAX (for NRT and NGO flights). Delta is taking delivery of 6 more 777's, the next one will arrive in early 2002. The Asian routes are LAX-NRT, LAX-NGO, JFK-NRT and ATL-NRT.
BluebellyA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 166 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1488 times:
Yeah I've noticed an awful lot of MD-11s flying in and out of JFK all of a sudden. I've yet to see any 777s. What gives?
L1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1583 posts, RR: 10 Reply 20, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1452 times:
I was on one yesterday, from ATL to MCO, enroute to the last L-1011 flight. It was N815DE, and I enjoyed it very much. The window panes had DC-10 stamped on them. The video entertainment system was broken. The seats were just like seats in most of Delta's other aircraft. But their business class seats had the most legroom I have ever seen, and I just flew first class on AA and UA recently. It doesn't even compare. By the way, I don't understand why they use a long range jet on such a short flight. It's sort of like when Air Florida used a 707 for flights from St. Petersburg to Orlando and Miami.
YoungDon From United States of America, joined May 2001, 306 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1440 times:
Delta has that kind of demand for ATL-MCO, and the MD-11 probably goes somewhere long range after returning to ATL during the day.
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8772 posts, RR: 13 Reply 23, posted (11 years 9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1398 times:
Bob - DL uses the MD-11 on ATL-MCO because it makes money for them. That plane is flying in between long hauls, and when a plane is on the ground, it does not make $$$. Also, the capacity on that route is there, that's why they use a 260 seat jet.
Its a shame though we don't get MD-11s up here, only Swissair brings them in occasionally.
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