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What Happened To Delta's MD-11s?  
User currently offlineAirplanetire From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2841 times:

About a month and a half ago, I was flying Swissair from ATL to ZRH on Swissair. I had some time to get to look around the international terminal, which we were in, to see what was there. Of course, because it was ATL, everything was mostly Delta. I didn't see one Delta MD-11 in the terminal. I saw two 777s, a 738, and the rest were just a bunch of 763s. A year ago, when I flew Delta from ATL to BRU, everything was on an MD-11 it seemed like. What happened to all the MD-11s? It was Friday this year and Monday last year, but I think that they would still fly some MD-11s on any day. Where did they all go?

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User currently offlineHypermike From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1001 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2727 times:

Depending on the time of day, you won't see many heavies. Anytime before 2 PM and after 8 PM, most of the international fleets are over water or in a hangar.

The 777s and 763s you saw were most likely being used for domestic operations.


User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2710 times:

Fly Delta to Asia. You'll see 'em.

User currently offline777guy From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 491 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2699 times:

Most of the MD-11's are on Pacific ocean flights.The time of day you were in ATL has mostly European flights out of international terminal.

User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2682 times:

I happened to fly into ATL from LAX on an MD-11, arriving about 22:30, about 2 weeks ago. Although my flight was domestic, it docked at the international terminal. The best thing is that upgrades to business class are easy, as there are 36 available seats. I had an aisle and window seat all to myself!

User currently offlineDeltaOwnsAll From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2672 times:

If I am correct...Delta is phasing out the MD-11s like all of the rest of the airlines that use them. Also it could have been due to timing...while in Atlanta I didn't see any MD-11s either except for one that was having its engine worked on. They don't have a great safety record at all and have bad fuel economy. Recently a Delta MD-11 on the NGO-LAX route had a problem with another fire...
DeltaOwnsAll


User currently offlineBoeing 747-311 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 795 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2613 times:

Too bad i like the delta md-11s!


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User currently offlineYoungDon From United States of America, joined May 2001, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2609 times:

Hmmmmm, I wouldn't classify the MD-11's fuel economy as bad, but it just isn't as good as the 777's or A330's/A340's. But it does kill those types in payload capacity.

User currently offlineHNL-Jack From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 817 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

Last weekend I was at Narita for several hours and saw three Delta MD-11's arrive and depart. I also see them in Nagoya frequently.



Grew up in the business and continued the family tradition.
User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2581 times:

Come to JFK and you'll see 4-5 maybe more ops per day. For a long time, we (JFK) never got the DL MD-11, now it's a very very common sight.

Michael


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2576 times:

On occasion, you may see one in the afternoon. But for the most part, the MD-11 (one of my personal favs) is assigned to Pacific and South American routes. Delta does use on on the ATL-MCO route once a day, and any flights to Japan that are nonstops stopover at LAX. I miss PDX getting them, I actually flew from ATL to PDX and back a few times just ride to on a MD-11.

User currently offlineStrickerje From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 723 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2573 times:

There are also MD-11's going to the Middle-East out of JFK. Two MD-11 flights per day travel from ATL to JFK, then one continues to Tel Aviv (flight 96), and the other flight number (150) ends in JFK. In like a month I think they're going to change flight 92 to a 767-300 though.

-Jeffrey Stricker


User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2896 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2541 times:
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I know what you mean, Srbmod, but at least PDX still gets 763s, which I was surprised at... I took a 763 from SLC to PDX and back a couple weeks ago and expected it to be empty, but it was packed to the brim... completely full both times.

User currently offlineModesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2769 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2517 times:

If you want to see Delta MD-11's, go to LAX. I was spotting there a few months ago and at one point, there were four DL MD-11's on the ground. Two were departing for NRT and NGO while two were arriving from NRT and NGO. It was great to have four of them running around. As Strickerje said, they also fly JFK-TLV and JFK-CAI-DXB. With only 15 ships in the fleet, it's not a guarantee that you'll see them at a Delta hub.

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2511 times:

They retired them yesterday.

Oh wait... that was the L1011.


User currently offlineMikeymike From United States of America, joined May 2000, 406 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2485 times:

Are you sure....I thought it was the 777???  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

No No no people...no 777's on south american routes any more....TLV, CAIRO, DXB, NRT, NGO, and occasionally LGW, from ATL, JFK, and LAX...plus some domesitc jumps to MCO....and DL is NOT phasing them out contrary to popular belief.


User currently offlineWoodsboy From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1028 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

Delta isnt retiring their MD-11s, they have no immediate plans to do so for 6-9 more years, this according to their website. The MD-11 still represents the the major long haul element of the fleet, neither the 767-300ER or 400ER match it and since they arent taking any more 777-200s, the MD-11 will be the one doing the higher density long haul routes. They dont do Europe anymore, they do the transpacific and JFK-Cairo/ Middle East routes as well as some S. American routes although I noticed that the ATL-Brazil flights were replaced with 763s.

User currently offlineDLMCO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

Mikeymike, you must know something Delta doesn't. According their website, they will be phasing out their MD-11's over the next six years.

Among others, DL operates the M11 on routes to Asia and South America, and certain US routes (such as MCO and JFK from ATL).


User currently offlineModesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2769 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2452 times:

Domestic routes include ATL-LAX and CVG-LAX (for NRT and NGO flights). Delta is taking delivery of 6 more 777's, the next one will arrive in early 2002. The Asian routes are LAX-NRT, LAX-NGO, JFK-NRT and ATL-NRT.

User currently offlineBluebellyA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2442 times:

Yeah I've noticed an awful lot of MD-11s flying in and out of JFK all of a sudden. I've yet to see any 777s. What gives?

User currently offlineL1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1650 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2406 times:
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I was on one yesterday, from ATL to MCO, enroute to the last L-1011 flight. It was N815DE, and I enjoyed it very much. The window panes had DC-10 stamped on them. The video entertainment system was broken. The seats were just like seats in most of Delta's other aircraft. But their business class seats had the most legroom I have ever seen, and I just flew first class on AA and UA recently. It doesn't even compare. By the way, I don't understand why they use a long range jet on such a short flight. It's sort of like when Air Florida used a 707 for flights from St. Petersburg to Orlando and Miami.

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA




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User currently offlineYoungDon From United States of America, joined May 2001, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2394 times:

Delta has that kind of demand for ATL-MCO, and the MD-11 probably goes somewhere long range after returning to ATL during the day.

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2360 times:

Are you sure....I thought it was the 777???

Yes I'm sure. It had 3 engines so it had to be the MD-11. Everyone knows the 777 has 4 engines.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8868 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2352 times:

Bob - DL uses the MD-11 on ATL-MCO because it makes money for them. That plane is flying in between long hauls, and when a plane is on the ground, it does not make $$$. Also, the capacity on that route is there, that's why they use a 260 seat jet.

Its a shame though we don't get MD-11s up here, only Swissair brings them in occasionally.

Jeff


User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1869 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2348 times:

Don't they have the project to sell them to Cargo operators within the next 2-3 years?
Nana..



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User currently offlineDLMCO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 25, posted (12 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2340 times:

Everyone knows the 777 has 4 engines.

 Smile


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