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Air Zimbabwe Suspends LGW *No Surprise*  
User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 9062 times:

Air Zimbabwe has suspended its LGW route. This is hardly no surprise after one of their aircraft (Z-WPF) was impounded here in December. One thing though I will miss about them not being here is how loud their old 762's are!

Here is a recent thread about the impounded aircraft at LGW if you missed it. More Troubles At Air Zimbabwe... (by klwright69 Dec 13 2011 in Civil Aviation)

More info on The Mail On Sunday website:

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/a...planes-impounded-unpaid-debts.html

[Edited 2012-01-04 14:48:54]


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User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3181 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8990 times:

How much of Air Zimbabwe is left? Do they have any operating aircraft that can do Intl routes? Or are they limited to domestic and regional flying with questionable aircraft? As an ex-Rhodesian it's very sad to see this happening in the country, my cousin once piloted for Air Zim, but his recountings of things made it seem this was all inevitable.


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User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8876 times:

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 1):
How much of Air Zimbabwe is left? Do they have any operating aircraft that can do Intl routes? Or are they limited to domestic and regional flying with questionable aircraft? As an ex-Rhodesian it's very sad to see this happening in the country, my cousin once piloted for Air Zim, but his recountings of things made it seem this was all inevitable.

They have seem to have roughly three 732's and one (maybe two) 762's. It seems they have a couple other international routes but I doubt they are flying them at the moment as they have hardly any money for fuel etc... According to the news it seems they are flying with the 732's on short-haul though.

There is some info on wiki which might explain a little better:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Zimbabwe



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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9580 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8675 times:

It looks like it was orders directly from Mugabe that they stop serving South Africa and the UK because he is afraid of airplanes being seized over debts. I'm not sure if this is because he wants to use them for his holidays as the article implies (below quote) or that he is concerned about the health and viability of the airline as they work through the debt crisis


Local media reported that Zimbabwean president Robert Mugabe personally ordered the move after he was apparently forced to charter a jet for his Christmas holiday when his usual plane became stranded in Britain.

The Radio VoP news website reported: 'The Minister of Transport and Communications, Nicholas Goche, has issued a circular to stop Air Zimbabwe management from flying its aircraft to South Africa and the United Kingdom where one of its long haul Boeing 767 aircraft was recently impounded over an outstanding debt.'

Sources at Air Zimbabwe told Radio VoP that the minister took the drastic action last week after he got a tongue-lashing from Mugabe

Dictator: President Robert Mugabe nearly missed his Christmas holiday to the Far East after the long-haul plane was impounded in London. The president nearly missed his annual holiday to the Far East after the long-haul plane that he normally uses to travel on outside trips was impounded in London.



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User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5643 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 8595 times:

"Thank you for flying Air Zimbabwe. As soon as the Captain turns off the seat belt sign our flight attendants will be coming by with complementary coffee, soft drinks and snacks. A selection of beer, wine and cocktails are available for purchase, with each selection priced at ten quadrillion Zimbabwe dollars. Please have exact change if possible."


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User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2447 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8354 times:

I wonder if BA will launch HRE again with a 767 once the BD slots come on line, maybe as a tag with LLW or BLZ - certainly a market.

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 3):
long-haul plane that he normally uses to travel on outside trips

To be honest Im surprised he doesnt have his own gold plated A340 or at least a Falcon 7X / GV / GLEX or several



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User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8114 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 3):
It looks like it was orders directly from Mugabe that they stop serving South Africa and the UK because he is afraid of airplanes being seized over debts. I'm not sure if this is because he wants to use them for his holidays as the article implies (below quote) or that he is concerned about the health and viability of the airline as they work through the debt crisis

I never knew he actually used the 762's all for himself whenever he wanted to. Couldn't imagine recieving the news that your flight is cancelled because Mugabe wanted to use the aircraft for himself. The article stated he was flying out around christmas, so I wonder when he will return (might have already come back) and charter the aircraft again. Then again though I don't think the 762's are doing anything at the moment.



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User currently offlineklwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2025 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 7980 times:

Their website seems to be rarely updated and maintained anymore.

I wonder if Air Zim still flies to Beijing and Kuala Lumpur.


User currently offlineslinky09 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2009, 827 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 7918 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 3):
Local media reported that Zimbabwean president Robert Mugabe personally ordered the move after he was apparently forced to charter a jet for his Christmas holiday when his usual plane became stranded in Britain.

Doesn't that make you sick, a virtual dictator who presides over a country where the average life expectancy has fallen from 62 to 48 since he came to power, has both Christmas holidays and chartered jets while millions suffer.

Really he should be impounded.


User currently offlineTupolevTu154 From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 2180 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4477 times:

Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 2):
one (maybe two) 762's.

As far as I'm aware, there are two. One in the new livery (Which was impounded) and one in the old (which was far better!).

I'd love to know what this bloke is on about, in the comments section of the article posted in the opening post;

"Mr Mugabe was given two passenger aircraft by the Chinese some five or six years ago for his personal use. Unfortunately, one broke down during delivery from the Beijing factory and ended up as spare parts for the other plane. Even more unfortunately, Mugabe refused to use the gifts after his flight to Dar es Salaam in the second aircraft became hopelessly lost (and was rumoured to have eventually put down in Angola). Conscious of his inestimable value to his nation, he has elected to commandeer a safe plane so that others might enjoy the thrill of Chinese aeronautical engineering."

Some Daily Mail fan spouting crap, or is there any info behind this?



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User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7525 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4302 times:

http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/airzim7.12561.html

http://uk.ask.com/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_Zimbabwe

I found these, the first relates to 2 MA60's about 2 years ago, and the second about fighter aircraft in 2005.

Perhaps 5-6 years ago is when the MA60 were ordered.

http://www.airzimbabwe.com/air-zimbabwe-passenger.html

Interestingly Air Zimbabwe say "three MA60, which joined the fleet in May 2005".


User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7525 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4259 times:

http://www.airzimbabwe.com/destinations.html

http://www.airzimbabwe.com/download-documents/Air-Zim-Time-Table.pdf

It is curious that the first seems to imply that they fly to London, and the second shows flight times.

perhaps someone should tell them.  


User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4139 times:

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 11):
It is curious that the first seems to imply that they fly to London, and the second shows flight times.

perhaps someone should tell them.

When I checked their website yesterday it still also seemed to show Johannesburg, which also got suspended before London did.

I also still can't believe you could book a flight with them and it could be cancelled because Mugabe wants to use the plane himself.



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User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6311 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4025 times:

Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 12):
I also still can't believe you could book a flight with them and it could be cancelled because Mugabe wants to use the plane himself.

Welcome to Zimbabwe, mate


User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25106 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 3738 times:

Maybe they can find a couple of their former 707s (ex-LH) and return them to service.



User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3416 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 14):
Maybe they can find a couple of their former 707s (ex-LH) and return them to service.

You know if they ever returned to LGW I would love to see a 707! Just imagine the noise and smoke from the engines, beats an easyJet on take-off anyday. 

Also interesting pic, the angle its at so low to the ground reminds me of a model aircraft.



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User currently onlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3207 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3295 times:

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User currently offlineAFGMEL From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3126 times:

Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 6):
Couldn't imagine recieving the news that your flight is cancelled because Mugabe wanted to use the aircraft for himself.

Happened all the time. Also flights from London being ordered to Cairo or elsewhere to pick up various government officials including himself. Appalling dictatorship. Even by maniacal dictator standards.



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User currently offlinerukundo From France, joined Jan 2007, 50 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3041 times:
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Quoting AFGMEL (Reply 17):
Couldn't imagine recieving the news that your flight is cancelled because Mugabe wanted to use the aircraft for himself.

I remember that one day Mugabe was stuck in NY, cause the 767 was out of order, due to the bad maintenance.


User currently onlineteneriffe77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2946 times:

Reminds me of some of the problems that Philippine Airlines had during the Marcos dictatorship and all the trouble that caused.

User currently offlineSepulTALLICA From Niger, joined Sep 2009, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2723 times:

Just as well. The only plane that was operating as of today was a 732 plying the domestic routes between HRE, BYO and VFA has been grounded, this time due to a union dispute over non payment of wages. As always, the inept board of UM is awaiting the Fiscus to bail them out of their incompetence. Hopefully, Tendai Biti will flip them the bird and UM will die a long awaited death.


Anyway, at a balling-ass partay last night, i gots to talking to some peeps in the travel industry here, and from what they have heard, BA should be back on the LHR-HRE route before year end, in addition to QR opening DOH-HRE (whether via LUN vis-a-vis EK who will be opening DXB-LUN-HRE-LUN-DXB from Feb 01, is anyone's guess).

As always with rumour and speculation, if anyone either at BA or QR could shed some light on the above rumours?



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