working2gether From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7018 times:
While working for Lufthansa ramp this summer, OPS told us that there was basically no chance of seeing a LH A380 at IAD but there was a really good chance (almost 100%) of seeing the 747-8I sometime in the near future. How much of that is true? Only time will tell
OH-LGA From Denmark, joined Oct 1999, 1436 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6400 times:
Time changes everything, including traffic patterns, demand forecasts and the like. SQ's first A380 was supposed to launch on SQ001/002 SFO-HKG-SIN, but SFO still hasn't seen an SQ A380 yet. The 748i may be better suited to LH's traffic needs on IAD-FRA. Looking at the IATA S12 period, UA already runs 3x daily IAD-FRA in addition to LH's twice daily flights. Not exactly hurting for frequency in that market. I'm certain LH has identified other markets where the A380 provides a better solution for the foreseeable future. IAD may receive an LH A380 in the future, but I don't think it'll be in the cards for a while yet.
Quoting airbazar (Reply 4): LH and UA have such a cozy relationship that I'm surprised that LH flies the A380 to SFO. I don't think LH wants to upstage UA in their home.
FRA is a Level 3 (slot controlled) airport, and the FAA has announced that SFO will become a Level 2 (schedule facilitated) airport for the IATA S12 schedule. The ability to add another flight isn't all that easy for SFO-FRA, especially given the distance involved. Besides, as UA and LH are both parties to the A++ revenue sharing agreement, UA will earn revenue from the A380 flight as if it were their own. This concept of "metal neutrality" also allows cooperation on scheduling, which would include aircraft type selection. There's enough demand during the summer period where UA runs a 747 and a 777, while LH runs an A380 on SFO-FRA v.v. I'm fairly certain UA was fine with LH placing the 380 on the route.
Head in the clouds... yet feet planted firmly on the ground.