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AF Bringing A380 To LAX In Summer 2012  
User currently offlineDTWLAX From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 788 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7878 times:

I may have missed the announcement but looks like AF65/66 will be operated with A380 starting Summer 2012.
Another 380 operator at LAX!!!

[Edited 2012-01-08 13:35:02]

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User currently offlineOLBA From Lebanon, joined Jun 2011, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 7870 times:

Yup, starting May, the first daily flight will be from TBIT, while all the rest would be from terminal 2.

User currently offlineJAAlbert From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1553 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 7848 times:

It seems that LAX is shaping up to become a major 380 port. Korean and Qantas now fly 380s to LAX. Which other airlines are, or are planning, using the 380 at LAX? And will LAX have enough 380 gates?

User currently offlineDTWLAX From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 788 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 7811 times:

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 2):
It seems that LAX is shaping up to become a major 380 port. Korean and Qantas now fly 380s to LAX. Which other airlines are, or are planning, using the 380 at LAX? And will LAX have enough 380 gates?

SQ uses the A380 to LAX. SQ and AF 380s will be at the gates in LAX around the same time.


User currently offlineredrooster3 From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 229 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 7813 times:

AF Swithces To A380 To LAX From May 2012 (by LY777 Oct 27 2011 in Civil Aviation)


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User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 942 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 7664 times:
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Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 2):
It seems that LAX is shaping up to become a major 380 port

yeap

Korean, Qantas, Singapore, Air France

My guess, Lufthansa and China Southern will announce LAX as a A380 destination before the year is over.


User currently offlineXXXX10 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 777 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7442 times:

Does this mean that it is now possible to go around the world on the A380?

CDG-SIN (SQ) SIN-NRT-LAX (SQ) LAX-CDG (AF)


User currently onlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12899 posts, RR: 100
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7357 times:
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Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 2):
It seems that LAX is shaping up to become a major 380 port.

Finally!   

Quoting XXXX10 (Reply 6):
Does this mean that it is now possible to go around the world on the A380?

CDG-SIN (SQ) SIN-NRT-LAX (SQ) LAX-CDG (AF)

Interesting tidbit... Yes it does imply one could (with probably poor connection times). It also implies that there will be further opportunities available in a year or two.

Quoting g500 (Reply 5):
My guess, Lufthansa and China Southern will announce LAX as a A380 destination before the year is over.

I'd bet on China Southern. Lufthansa? Probably later.

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User currently onlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7338 times:

Is China Southern doing very well to LAX right now as it is? I never got an answer last time I opened a thread on the topic. 777-200 to A380 seems like a big capacity jump.

User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 942 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7323 times:
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Quoting Newark727 (Reply 8):
Is China Southern doing very well to LAX right now as it is? I never got an answer last time I opened a thread on the topic. 777-200 to A380 seems like a big capacity jump.

China Southern operates the A330 to CDG and they're upgrading that route to A380...


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 7168 times:

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 2):
And will LAX have enough 380 gates?

Well, they can basically park an A380 at every remote gate. QF can park at least one at T4. They can park at the ends of Bradley. I believe at least 1 T2 gate is A380 capable.

Quoting DTWLAX (Reply 3):
SQ uses the A380 to LAX. SQ and AF 380s will be at the gates in LAX around the same time.

Different places.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 7):
I'd bet on China Southern. Lufthansa? Probably later.

I'm thinking LAX could be a prime 748 destination for LH.



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User currently offlineJOYA380B747 From India, joined Mar 2005, 490 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7058 times:

I believe the withdrawal of the airline's A380 from YUL in Summer 2012 coincides with introduction of LAX with A380. Is it that AF are redeploying the same a/c?


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6894 times:

Quoting JOYA380B747 (Reply 11):
I believe the withdrawal of the airline's A380 from YUL in Summer 2012 coincides with introduction of LAX with A380. Is it that AF are redeploying the same a/c?

They would have to find an extra half aircraft somewhere. While Europe-California is doable with one aircraft, it generally isn't practical.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24858 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6833 times:

Quoting DTWLAX (Thread starter):
I may have missed the announcement

Yes bit old news by now....

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 7):
I'd bet on China Southern. Lufthansa? Probably later.

I seriously doubt CZ. First they have not participated in any A380 project meetings, plus also see my comments below.

Quoting Newark727 (Reply 8):
Is China Southern doing very well to LAX right now as it is? I never got an answer last time I opened a thread on the topic. 777-200 to A380 seems like a big capacity jump.

Just looking at the loads, CZ has never done to well across the Pacific. For the first 11-mos of 2011, its LAX LF % was mere 54.6%.
For the longest time also it was not even able to maintain daily service. Not very insperational ha.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 10):
Well, they can basically park an A380 at every remote gate. QF can park at least one at T4. They can park at the ends of Bradley. I believe at least 1 T2 gate is A380 capable.

Only 6-7 of the remotes are A380 capable. Has lots more than simple space, there are issues with location of fuel pits for example.

Also T-2 has no A380 current capable gates (there is a project in design if its gets funded sometime in the future) while T-4 has not been stripped nor do have I seen AA carry through on any of the facility adjustments. (remember QF made LAX terminal adjustments late 2008 in conjuction with launch of A380 services).



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User currently offlinesomething From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6826 times:

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 7):
Quoting XXXX10 (Reply 6):
Does this mean that it is now possible to go around the world on the A380?

CDG-SIN (SQ) SIN-NRT-LAX (SQ) LAX-CDG (AF)

Interesting tidbit... Yes it does imply one could (with probably poor connection times). It also implies that there will be further opportunities available in a year or two.

It's been possible for a while. CDG-DXB-ICN on EK, ICN-JFK on KE, JFK-CDG on AF.



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User currently offlinegoldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1830 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6781 times:

Quoting JOYA380B747 (Reply 11):
I believe the withdrawal of the airline's A380 from YUL in Summer 2012 coincides with introduction of LAX with A380. Is it that AF are redeploying the same a/c?

They are not withdrawing the A380 from YUL, but will use it 3 or 4 times a week. The other thread about this had its title corrected.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6760 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 13):
Also T-2 has no A380 current capable gates (there is a project in design if its gets funded sometime in the future) while T-4 has not been stripped nor do have I seen AA carry through on any of the facility adjustments. (remember QF made LAX terminal adjustments late 2008 in conjuction with launch of A380 services).

I thought at least 1 gate at T2 was made capable in anticipation of the much delayed introduction of the A380 by VS. Also, AF will have to figure something out if they want to maintain continuity.

Also, I definitely recall at least 1 gate at T4 was made A380-capable from a size standpoint. I take it this is a striping issue.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24858 posts, RR: 46
Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6240 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
I thought at least 1 gate at T2 was made capable in anticipation of the much delayed introduction of the A380 by VS. Also, AF will have to figure something out if they want to maintain continuity.

Nope. No T-2 gate at the moment. As mentioned in Reply 1, AF will be operating from TBIT for this Paris turn.



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17052 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5832 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 17):
AF will be operating from TBIT for this Paris turn.

I am sure that this will cause some confusion among PAX.



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User currently offlinethenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2382 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5738 times:

Quoting JOYA380B747 (Reply 11):
I believe the withdrawal of the airline's A380 from YUL in Summer 2012 coincides with introduction of LAX with A380. Is it that AF are redeploying the same a/c?
Quoting goldorak (Reply 15):
They are not withdrawing the A380 from YUL, but will use it 3 or 4 times a week. The other thread about this had its title corrected.

  

AF will get 2 additional A380s in april and may, will restart NRT, add LAX, and up IAD to daily.

AF's A380s will serve JNB (2 airframes required to operate daily), YUL, LAX, IAD and NRT (more than 1 airframe required to operate daily). That's 6 destinations with just 8 airframes in the fleet.

That explains why YUL is downgraded to only 4 weekly flights a week for next summer, and also why they are not resuming SFO this year. Once AF get more A380's in the system, they will bring all these flights to daily.

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User currently onlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12899 posts, RR: 100
Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4854 times:
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Quoting LAXintl (Reply 13):
Just looking at the loads, CZ has never done to well across the Pacific. For the first 11-mos of 2011, its LAX LF % was mere 54.6%.

Interesting. Thanks for the heads up.

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User currently offlinekamboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4244 times:

I am bummed that LAX will get the A380 for the summer and that my airport SFO will not this year as last. What is it gonna take me to fly on the A380. The last two years I have flown AF to BEY connecting in CDG. In 2010 I flew their A340 and last year the B777-300 out of JFK. I was planning this year to time my vacation when the A380 is deployed on CDG-SFO route for the summer, but I guess that won't happen as another thread shows that AF will switch to twice B777. At least better than their B744 which do not have private TV on each seat.

User currently offlineairportugal310 From Palau, joined Apr 2004, 3583 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4210 times:

Quoting kamboi (Reply 21):
What is it gonna take me to fly on the A380.

Get creative! It might mean more travel time, but it can be done. SFO-JFK-CDG...if the timing works



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User currently offlinelegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3823 times:

Quoting kamboi (Reply 21):

AF is still flying their 744 into SFO this summer . The second daily flight is a 772 ER.



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User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 24, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3805 times:

Can't AF use the remote gates of TBIT and then bus pax to/from T2?


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25 thenoflyzone : LH will resume SFO with an A380 for the summer, as of 25 March, 2012. Nothing stopping you from flying SFO-FRA-BEY. Thenoflyzone
26 LAXintl : Sure, but they so far have chosen for the full TBIT experience. Anyhow Skyteam has its large joint lounge there, so in many ways its an improvement o
27 aklrno : The new TBIT expansion will have lots of A380 capable gates. One will be opened far before the rest of the building (in 5 or 6 months I think), and t
28 ba319-131 : - Nothing official has been announced, both machines are running domestics at the moment.
29 kamboi : I suppose I can, but that connection in FRA is over 9 hours. LH puts you on the 9:45 PM flight. That's not fun when you arrive early in FRA and have
30 thenoflyzone : If you're a true aviation fan,of course it is. Even if you're not, 9 hours is more than enough time to hit a local bar in downtown FRA and have a few
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