JAAlbert From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1189 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6106 times:
It seems that LAX is shaping up to become a major 380 port. Korean and Qantas now fly 380s to LAX. Which other airlines are, or are planning, using the 380 at LAX? And will LAX have enough 380 gates?
DTWLAX From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 682 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6069 times:
Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 2): It seems that LAX is shaping up to become a major 380 port. Korean and Qantas now fly 380s to LAX. Which other airlines are, or are planning, using the 380 at LAX? And will LAX have enough 380 gates?
SQ uses the A380 to LAX. SQ and AF 380s will be at the gates in LAX around the same time.
redrooster3 From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 217 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6071 times:
g500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 720 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5922 times:
Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 2): It seems that LAX is shaping up to become a major 380 port
yeap
Korean, Qantas, Singapore, Air France
My guess, Lufthansa and China Southern will announce LAX as a A380 destination before the year is over.
lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10649 posts, RR: 100 Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5615 times:
Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 2): It seems that LAX is shaping up to become a major 380 port.
Finally!
Quoting XXXX10 (Reply 6): Does this mean that it is now possible to go around the world on the A380?
CDG-SIN (SQ) SIN-NRT-LAX (SQ) LAX-CDG (AF)
Interesting tidbit... Yes it does imply one could (with probably poor connection times). It also implies that there will be further opportunities available in a year or two.
Quoting g500 (Reply 5): My guess, Lufthansa and China Southern will announce LAX as a A380 destination before the year is over.
I'd bet on China Southern. Lufthansa? Probably later.
Newark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1172 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5596 times:
Is China Southern doing very well to LAX right now as it is? I never got an answer last time I opened a thread on the topic. 777-200 to A380 seems like a big capacity jump.
g500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 720 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5581 times:
Quoting Newark727 (Reply 8): Is China Southern doing very well to LAX right now as it is? I never got an answer last time I opened a thread on the topic. 777-200 to A380 seems like a big capacity jump.
China Southern operates the A330 to CDG and they're upgrading that route to A380...
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 80 Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5426 times:
Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 2): And will LAX have enough 380 gates?
Well, they can basically park an A380 at every remote gate. QF can park at least one at T4. They can park at the ends of Bradley. I believe at least 1 T2 gate is A380 capable.
Quoting DTWLAX (Reply 3): SQ uses the A380 to LAX. SQ and AF 380s will be at the gates in LAX around the same time.
Different places.
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 7): I'd bet on China Southern. Lufthansa? Probably later.
I'm thinking LAX could be a prime 748 destination for LH.
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JOYA380B747 From India, joined Mar 2005, 425 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5316 times:
I believe the withdrawal of the airline's A380 from YUL in Summer 2012 coincides with introduction of LAX with A380. Is it that AF are redeploying the same a/c?
If it wasn't for AI and those money mongers sitting in the parliament, 9W would have been as big as SQ...:(
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 80 Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5152 times:
Quoting JOYA380B747 (Reply 11): I believe the withdrawal of the airline's A380 from YUL in Summer 2012 coincides with introduction of LAX with A380. Is it that AF are redeploying the same a/c?
They would have to find an extra half aircraft somewhere. While Europe-California is doable with one aircraft, it generally isn't practical.
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LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22024 posts, RR: 51 Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5091 times:
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 7): I'd bet on China Southern. Lufthansa? Probably later.
I seriously doubt CZ. First they have not participated in any A380 project meetings, plus also see my comments below.
Quoting Newark727 (Reply 8): Is China Southern doing very well to LAX right now as it is? I never got an answer last time I opened a thread on the topic. 777-200 to A380 seems like a big capacity jump.
Just looking at the loads, CZ has never done to well across the Pacific. For the first 11-mos of 2011, its LAX LF % was mere 54.6%.
For the longest time also it was not even able to maintain daily service. Not very insperational ha.
Quoting N1120A (Reply 10): Well, they can basically park an A380 at every remote gate. QF can park at least one at T4. They can park at the ends of Bradley. I believe at least 1 T2 gate is A380 capable.
Only 6-7 of the remotes are A380 capable. Has lots more than simple space, there are issues with location of fuel pits for example.
Also T-2 has no A380 current capable gates (there is a project in design if its gets funded sometime in the future) while T-4 has not been stripped nor do have I seen AA carry through on any of the facility adjustments. (remember QF made LAX terminal adjustments late 2008 in conjuction with launch of A380 services).
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something From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 24 Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5084 times:
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 7): Quoting XXXX10 (Reply 6):
Does this mean that it is now possible to go around the world on the A380?
CDG-SIN (SQ) SIN-NRT-LAX (SQ) LAX-CDG (AF)
Interesting tidbit... Yes it does imply one could (with probably poor connection times). It also implies that there will be further opportunities available in a year or two.
It's been possible for a while. CDG-DXB-ICN on EK, ICN-JFK on KE, JFK-CDG on AF.
goldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1672 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5039 times:
Quoting JOYA380B747 (Reply 11): I believe the withdrawal of the airline's A380 from YUL in Summer 2012 coincides with introduction of LAX with A380. Is it that AF are redeploying the same a/c?
They are not withdrawing the A380 from YUL, but will use it 3 or 4 times a week. The other thread about this had its title corrected.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 80 Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5018 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 13): Also T-2 has no A380 current capable gates (there is a project in design if its gets funded sometime in the future) while T-4 has not been stripped nor do have I seen AA carry through on any of the facility adjustments. (remember QF made LAX terminal adjustments late 2008 in conjuction with launch of A380 services).
I thought at least 1 gate at T2 was made capable in anticipation of the much delayed introduction of the A380 by VS. Also, AF will have to figure something out if they want to maintain continuity.
Also, I definitely recall at least 1 gate at T4 was made A380-capable from a size standpoint. I take it this is a striping issue.
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LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22024 posts, RR: 51 Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4498 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 16): I thought at least 1 gate at T2 was made capable in anticipation of the much delayed introduction of the A380 by VS. Also, AF will have to figure something out if they want to maintain continuity.
Nope. No T-2 gate at the moment. As mentioned in Reply 1, AF will be operating from TBIT for this Paris turn.
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B747forever From United States of America, joined May 2007, 16574 posts, RR: 11 Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4090 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 17): AF will be operating from TBIT for this Paris turn.
I am sure that this will cause some confusion among PAX.
thenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1964 posts, RR: 12 Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3996 times:
Quoting JOYA380B747 (Reply 11): I believe the withdrawal of the airline's A380 from YUL in Summer 2012 coincides with introduction of LAX with A380. Is it that AF are redeploying the same a/c?
Quoting goldorak (Reply 15): They are not withdrawing the A380 from YUL, but will use it 3 or 4 times a week. The other thread about this had its title corrected.
AF will get 2 additional A380s in april and may, will restart NRT, add LAX, and up IAD to daily.
AF's A380s will serve JNB (2 airframes required to operate daily), YUL, LAX, IAD and NRT (more than 1 airframe required to operate daily). That's 6 destinations with just 8 airframes in the fleet.
That explains why YUL is downgraded to only 4 weekly flights a week for next summer, and also why they are not resuming SFO this year. Once AF get more A380's in the system, they will bring all these flights to daily.
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lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10649 posts, RR: 100 Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3112 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 13): Just looking at the loads, CZ has never done to well across the Pacific. For the first 11-mos of 2011, its LAX LF % was mere 54.6%.
kamboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 126 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2502 times:
I am bummed that LAX will get the A380 for the summer and that my airport SFO will not this year as last. What is it gonna take me to fly on the A380. The last two years I have flown AF to BEY connecting in CDG. In 2010 I flew their A340 and last year the B777-300 out of JFK. I was planning this year to time my vacation when the A380 is deployed on CDG-SFO route for the summer, but I guess that won't happen as another thread shows that AF will switch to twice B777. At least better than their B744 which do not have private TV on each seat.
airportugal310 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3056 posts, RR: 2 Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2468 times:
Quoting kamboi (Reply 21): What is it gonna take me to fly on the A380.
Get creative! It might mean more travel time, but it can be done. SFO-JFK-CDG...if the timing works
legacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1827 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2081 times:
ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21025 posts, RR: 60 Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2063 times:
Can't AF use the remote gates of TBIT and then bus pax to/from T2?
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25 thenoflyzone: LH will resume SFO with an A380 for the summer, as of 25 March, 2012. Nothing stopping you from flying SFO-FRA-BEY. Thenoflyzone
26 LAXintl: Sure, but they so far have chosen for the full TBIT experience. Anyhow Skyteam has its large joint lounge there, so in many ways its an improvement o
27 aklrno: The new TBIT expansion will have lots of A380 capable gates. One will be opened far before the rest of the building (in 5 or 6 months I think), and t
28 ba319-131: - Nothing official has been announced, both machines are running domestics at the moment.
29 kamboi: I suppose I can, but that connection in FRA is over 9 hours. LH puts you on the 9:45 PM flight. That's not fun when you arrive early in FRA and have
30 thenoflyzone: If you're a true aviation fan,of course it is. Even if you're not, 9 hours is more than enough time to hit a local bar in downtown FRA and have a few