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New Ryanair Base - Pafos, Cyprus  
User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5136 times:

I am not sure if I should put the word "unconfirmed" in the title since I have not found the announcement in the Ryanair website yet but...

Ryanair appear to have announced Pafos Airport in Cyprus (PFO) as their new base with services to European destinations starting in April 2012.

The proposed routes include Patra, Chania, Frankfurt Hahn, Kaunas, Krakow, Stansted, Memmingen, Bergamo, Oslo, Pisa, Rome, Stockholm, Thessaloniki and Treviso.

Sources

http://www.incyprus.com.cy/en-gb/Top...ries-News/4342/24938/ryanair-boost

http://www.sigmalive.com/inbusiness/news/services/454228 (Greek)


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User currently offlineadriaticflight From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 516 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4919 times:

Yes its on the website. Well done Cyprus! will be great success i'm sure.

User currently offlinegilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3025 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4913 times:

It's now official!

http://www.ryanair.com/en/news/ryana...-big-50-with-base-at-paphos-cyprus

This is likely to be another nail in Cyprus Airways coffin!


User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4913 times:

Not sure about CY as a whole but I can't see Cyprus Airways newly launched STN flights lasting beyond summer

[Edited 2012-01-10 02:55:44]


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User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2640 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4913 times:
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Like I said in my previous post this is quite impressive and I hope it doesn't affect their operations out of Larnaca.

Also, for quite some time now they were cooperating with Amathus Travel and the European Union in bringing Europeans older than 55 years to Paphos for holidays. Half of their package was paid by the EU in order to prevent the city closing down in winter.


User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2640 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4870 times:
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Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 2):
This is likely to be another nail in Cyprus Airways coffin!

I don't think Cyprus Airways will be too bothered with this. If anything they will be happy about it. Recently Cyprus Airways was criticized by Paphos for wanting to cancel the stops there on its European flights.

Cyprus Airways had stated that it's just hurting them and that they are losing money with those stops. With the A330-200s gone and with the possibility of canceling these stops we might actually see Cyprus Airways come close to making money.


User currently offlineCY319 From Cyprus, joined Apr 2006, 396 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4778 times:

Good news for Cyprus!
It is clear that FR targets various market segments with their proposed destinations:
Greece is purely for VFR & students
East Europe is mostly for immigrants & some incoming tourism
Italy/Germany/Nordics purely for incoming tourism
STN is a good mix of inbound & outbound tourism, VFR, students



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User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3590 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4665 times:

Quoting CYatUK (Reply 3):
Not sure about CY as a whole but I can't see Cyprus Airways newly launched STN flights lasting beyond summer

CY cancelled their weekly flight to STN around May 2011, and upset lots of expats who depended on it, have they reinstated it as their website doesn't mention STN at all ?

having visited Paphos recently they can certainly do with the increased traffic, the economy is not good at all there, lots of property half built with 40% price reductions, and half empty bars. Even McDonalds has shut down.


User currently offlineoldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4661 times:

How do Ryanair call this airport?

Tel Aviv - West or Athens-East?   

[Edited 2012-01-10 04:29:54]


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User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3590 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4626 times:

Quoting oldeuropean (Reply 8):
How do Ryanair call this airport?

Tel Aviv - West or Athens-East?

To really upset the locals - "Istanbul South"   


User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4397 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4619 times:

Quoting oldeuropean (Reply 8):
How do Ryanair call this airport?

Tel Aviv - West or Athens-East?

Most passengers will know Paphos better than Tel Aviv or Athens...


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19230 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4560 times:

Cool and nice to hear. Will be good to search for fares once routes are bookable.


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User currently offlineCPHFF From Sweden, joined Aug 2011, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4553 times:

Cyprus, and especially Paphos is a holiday destination. I have serious doubts they will sell many seats between October-April.


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User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2640 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4497 times:
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Quoting CPHFF (Reply 12):
Cyprus, and especially Paphos is a holiday destination. I have serious doubts they will sell many seats between October-April.

They will because they are bringing older people for holidays. Half of their package is paid by the European Union which means that these older people have to pay about €200/250 which is not bad at all.

I am surprised they have not added any destination in Finland since there are a lot of Finns there.


User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4493 times:

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 7):
CY cancelled their weekly flight to STN around May 2011, and upset lots of expats who depended on it, have they reinstated it as their website doesn't mention STN at all ?

Try booking on CY webpage and you will find STN in the from/to drop-down lists.

The flight is operating twice weekly at the moment and is to go 3 times per week from April.



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User currently offlineGT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1789 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4467 times:

Quoting CPHFF (Reply 12):
Cyprus, and especially Paphos is a holiday destination. I have serious doubts they will sell many seats between October-April.

Want a bet? Tell Easyjet that. In the WInter they operate it most days of the week ex MAN (sometimes twice daily) and everyday ex LGW (sometimes twice a day). There is large ex pat community there, the associated VFR traffic, aswell as a steady stream of military personnel. Add in tourists who come here during the Winter (the LCA end of the Island effectively closes in Winter) and it makes for quite a busy route all year round.



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User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12562 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4426 times:

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 9):
Quoting oldeuropean (Reply 8):
How do Ryanair call this airport?

Tel Aviv - West or Athens-East?

To really upset the locals - "Istanbul South"

To get the full gringo effect, they'll go with "Constantinople South"!   



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User currently offlineGiancavia From Vatican City, joined Feb 2010, 1366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4383 times:

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 7):

CY cancelled their weekly flight to STN around May 2011, and upset lots of expats who depended on it, have they reinstated it as their website doesn't mention STN at all ?

having visited Paphos recently they can certainly do with the increased traffic, the economy is not good at all there, lots of property half built with 40% price reductions, and half empty bars. Even McDonalds has shut down.

Off topic but .. Cyprus Airways operated 2 flights into Luton on Sunday.. one arrived from LHR and the other from MAN.. still cant figure out whats going on there. Wonder if we will see Cyprus operating flights back at Luton after a LONNNNG abscence.


User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3590 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4332 times:

Quoting CYatUK (Reply 14):
Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 7):
CY cancelled their weekly flight to STN around May 2011, and upset lots of expats who depended on it, have they reinstated it as their website doesn't mention STN at all ?

Try booking on CY webpage and you will find STN in the from/to drop-down lists.

The flight is operating twice weekly at the moment and is to go 3 times per week from April.

Nothing at all on their website for STN-PFO, they did however reinstate STN-LCA twice weekly going up to x3, and there is a news item on there for this. My uncle is flying Luton - PFO today on U2 as CY would only offer him LCA !!!


User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2640 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4308 times:
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Quoting Giancavia (Reply 17):

Off topic but .. Cyprus Airways operated 2 flights into Luton on Sunday.. one arrived from LHR and the other from MAN.. still cant figure out whats going on there. Wonder if we will see Cyprus operating flights back at Luton after a LONNNNG abscence.

I doubt Cyprus Airways would launch Luton any time soon. They do a lot of charters so I suppose that is why you saw them there.

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 18):

Nothing at all on their website for STN-PFO, they did however reinstate STN-LCA twice weekly going up to x3, and there is a news item on there for this. My uncle is flying Luton - PFO today on U2 as CY would only offer him LCA !!!

I think he was referring to Cyprus Airways' flight from Larnaca to Stansted.


User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3590 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4293 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 19):
Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 18):

Nothing at all on their website for STN-PFO, they did however reinstate STN-LCA twice weekly going up to x3, and there is a news item on there for this. My uncle is flying Luton - PFO today on U2 as CY would only offer him LCA !!!

I think he was referring to Cyprus Airways' flight from Larnaca to Stansted.

So do I, but the entire thread is about Pafos, so LCA is rather irrelevant.


User currently offlineBA777 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2179 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4238 times:

I know many people who wouldn't mind being based there! 50 Ryanair bases, quite an achievement.

User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2640 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4223 times:
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Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 20):
So do I, but the entire thread is about Pafos, so LCA is rather irrelevant.

Actually it's not, especially in a small country like Cyprus. Between Larnaca and Paphos is the city of Limassol with its 230.000 inhabitants. Cyprus Airways might lose a lot of customers to Ryanair for flights to the United Kingdom and Greece.
Not to mention that now a lot of people from Paphos (66.000 inhabitants) have a good alternative to travelling to Larnaca everytime they need to fly somewhere.


User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3590 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4084 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 22):
Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 20):So do I, but the entire thread is about Pafos, so LCA is rather irrelevant.
Actually it's not, especially in a small country like Cyprus. Between Larnaca and Paphos is the city of Limassol with its 230.000 inhabitants. Cyprus Airways might lose a lot of customers to Ryanair for flights to the United Kingdom and Greece.
Not to mention that now a lot of people from Paphos (66.000 inhabitants) have a good alternative to travelling to Larnaca everytime they need to fly somewhere.

Paphos - UK is presently an U2 monopoly, CY chose to withdraw from that market last year, U2 are the airline most likely to be affected. With U2 presently flying PFO -LGW & PFO-LTN, I doubt that many are trekking across to LCA.


User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3926 times:

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 20):
So do I, but the entire thread is about Pafos, so LCA is rather irrelevant.

Yes, sorry for not clarifying. I was referring to flights from LCA to STN.

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 23):
Paphos - UK is presently an U2 monopoly, CY chose to withdraw from that market last year, U2 are the airline most likely to be affected. With U2 presently flying PFO -LGW & PFO-LTN, I doubt that many are trekking across to LCA.

Cyprus Airways are a small airline with 11 aircraft hence having a base at PFO was both expensive and impractical.

Flights departing from LCA and stopping at PFO were also losing money mainly because of the additional costs related to the PFO stop (even when they were almost full).

I do think that CY will be affected by the presence of FR at PFO but only on routes operated by both airlines.

Knowing Cypriot culture, I would not expect lots of Nicosia and Larnaca residents to use PFO given that the distance of PFO from NIcosia is 150km compared to 50Km to LCA.



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25 lewis : Is there really a market for flights between Patras and Paphos? I didn't even know Patras had an airport that could be used by FR! Similarly, would Pa
26 Pe@rson : No. Indeed, not one of FR's served airports has North, South, East, or West in, bar Tenerife South, the busiest airport on that island.
27 lewis : Obviously it was a joke, similar to a few posts above.
28 Post contains images Pe@rson : But it has been said for the past 10 years... Originality, folks, originality!
29 Post contains images lewis : Athens (Patras) then! On a serious note though, what airport would they use there? I know Araxos is nearby but it is a military facility, can it hand
30 ju068 : Hence why I stated that airlines will fight over who gets the passengers from Limassol which like I stated before is a relatively big city. Nicosia,
31 adriaticflight : Yes it can. Patras is a large town and have an ever larger catchment area.
32 EuroWings : FMM is listed as 'Memmingen (Munich West)' on their website
33 Pe@rson : No, it is listed in its pull-down menu as 'Memmingen Munich'.
34 Post contains links EuroWings : It's listed here as both on this drop down list: www.ryanair.com/en/cheap-flights-munich-memmingen-germany/ They must have changed it.
35 Post contains links Pe@rson : Not in the one when you type www.ryanair.com However, I remember them detailing it such before.
36 EuroWings : Don't know about 'monopoly'. According to wiki (I know) you've got TOM, TCX and MON doing charters and they do seat-only sales. As well as BA to LGW
37 Bongodog1964 : Not too sure who LS are Partial error on my part, I forgot about jet 2, they fly however to about 5 regional airports once a week in winter and twice
38 EuroWings : I see. Well, FR will be an interesting arrival then, I do wonder if they will fly to other UK destinations. They've certainly had a huge impact on th
39 Post contains links Pe@rson : Here's anna's article on FR and PFO: http://www.anna.aero/2012/01/11/ryan...cts-paphos-in-cyprus-as-50th-base/
40 ju068 : Well the flights are bookable now and from what I could see Thessaloniki will be operated on a daily basis. Flights start at €37 return.
41 CYatUK : Looking at the link posted by Pe@rson (reply 39) it looks like SKG will eventually become 10 times per week.
42 Post contains links CYatUK : FR must have utilized the incentives that were announced by Cypriot Government and Hermes Airports (LCA, PFO operator) only a few days ago and include
43 Post contains images lewis : Shame on me for not knowing, I always assumed Araxos was just Air Force. I wouldn't say though that Patras has a large catchment area, especially som
44 ju068 : I hope so, the 06:00/07:00 departure from Paphos is not good for those wishing to go to SKG for a weekend.
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