ARN From Sweden, joined Feb 2001, 253 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6749 times:
This is from scandinavian aviation 2012 nr 1 on this forum. Sorry for hijacking the subject. But this deserves a thread of its own in my opinion. Singapore Airlines is commencing flights to Stockholm-Arlanda.
Cyba From Liberia, joined Nov 2005, 198 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6553 times:
"The partnership is expected to lead to growth in air services between Scandinavia and Singapore, and, depending on market conditions , pave the way for a new route between Stockholm and Singapore, served with Singapore Airlines aircraft."
The language in this press release is veeeery tentative. It certainly doesn't sound to me like a sure thing - more like something they might, possibly, perhaps consider sometime in the future.
Having said that with TG flying daily to each of ARN, OSL, CPH (10x) plus all the new flights on ME carriers (EK, QR) plus AY recently launching flights to SIN to supplement all their other far east flights, it's perhaps not a bad idea for SQ to look into it also.
huaiwei From Singapore, joined Oct 2008, 1086 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2177 times:
I suppose SQ realised there is a market to Scandinavia and they had not been maximising the opportunities presented through a more comprehensive tie-up with SAS in the same alliance. I consider this a rather belated move.
It's huaiwei...not huawei. I have nothing to do with the PRC! :)
copenhagenboy From Denmark, joined Sep 2001, 589 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1912 times:
Maybe TG will go "into bed" with SK/SQ on the Scandinavian-SEA market:
Sorry only google translated:
The agreement between SAS and Singapore Airlines is ready for signature and will mean more connections between Scandinavia and Singapore - both from Copenhagen and Stockholm. But maybe Thai Airways is also included.
Stand By and takeoff.dk could the other day reveal the way is now paved for a new company between Singapore Airlines and SAS. The agreement was approved this week in the two companies' headquarters and lacks only the formal approval of competition authorities.
This is a joint venture in which the bottom line will be shared with even more details than today between SAS and Lufthansa. The connections to Copenhagen strengthened with daily departures, and probably the same from Stockholm. Who will fly the many new departures, are not finally agreed. Perhaps shared initially equally
Along the way there have been ongoing negotiations with Thai Airways, the interest is still so great that there has been meeting this week in Thailand and Singapore. All three companies are members of Star Alliance,
Whether there will be two or three the idea is to put a truly competitive project up to Finnair - and maybe Norwegian - and the three Middle East airlines, Qatar Airways, Gulf Air and Emirates, in Copenhagen.
It is not expected that cooperation really started prior to the winter schedule in October.
kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8435 posts, RR: 14 Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1626 times:
Quoting copenhagenboy (Reply 11): Along the way there have been ongoing negotiations with Thai Airways, the interest is still so great that there has been meeting this week in Thailand and Singapore. All three companies are members of Star Alliance,
Co-operation of any sort between TG and SQ really would be news! I would think that TG would actually stand to be one of the bigger losers if SQ start ARN.
Moderation in all things ... including moderation ;-)
copenhagenboy From Denmark, joined Sep 2001, 589 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1521 times:
@kiwiandrew, you might be correct, but now the 3 companies are eating passengers from each other. I think that SK is behind this new development of this cooperation. TG OSL-BKK, ARN-BKK and CPH-BKK. SK CPH-BKK and SQ CPH-SIN. I think outside the highseason there are far to many seats from Scandinavia to BKK and SIN. The 3 companies are figthing against eachother and also with AY. Then we have the Middleeastern companies starting another competition as well as the old European carriers. The charter companies, to Thailand, at least in Denmark, have sold tickets deaply discountet this winter.
From the perspective of SAS, it would be nice to have all 3 companies into a kind of JV between Scandinavia and BKK and SIN.
SAS was a founder of Thai and had before, 10 years ago?, code share on each others flights between CPH and BKK, I have been on one of them myself.
But we just have to wait and see what is going to happen.
So much is happening in the industry, that enemies might will become friends at least in some markets.