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Virgin America To Announce A New City.  
User currently offlinetimberwolf24 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 575 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 20385 times:

Just saw on their Facebook page if you guess the next new VX city you will receive 20% off airfare. The choices they are listing are Atlanta, Newark, Houston, Phoenix, Philadelphia and yes Bozeman. I'm thinking Bozeman.....lol
https://www.facebook.com/VirginAmerica?sk=app_299589673426698

[Edited 2012-01-13 17:03:15]

Edited to add PHL that I forgot in the original posting....


[Edited 2012-01-13 17:29:08]


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User currently offlinejetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2799 posts, RR: 33
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 20357 times:

Newark...duh.

Didn't they make an announcement a few weeks ago that EWR was on the top of their list?



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User currently offlinerealsim From Spain, joined Apr 2010, 646 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 20337 times:

Quoting timberwolf24 (Thread starter):
The choices they are listing are Atlanta, Newark, Houston, Phoenix and yes Bozeman. I'm thinking Bozeman.....lol

They also list PHL as an option.


User currently offlineflyingcaT From United States of America, joined May 2007, 541 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 20300 times:

Quoting timberwolf24 (Thread starter):
The choices they are listing are Atlanta, Newark, Houston, Phoenix and yes Bozeman
PHL Philadelphia is also listed  

[Edited 2012-01-13 17:31:58]

User currently offlineb757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1382 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 20294 times:

EWR gets my vote.

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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8288 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 20272 times:

It'll be Newark, because for some reason airlines continue to flock there despite enormous delays the likes of which mankind has never seen before. People on organ transplant lists have shorter wait times than airplanes in the hold for EWR.


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User currently offlinetimberwolf24 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 20274 times:

Quoting realsim (Reply 2):
PHL Philadelphia is also listed
Quoting realsim (Reply 2):
They also list PHL as an option

Yes my mistake.



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User currently offlineiad51fl From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 354 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 20041 times:

H-Town gets my vote.

The message you were about to post is too short and probably not of any higher value to the topic at hand. You should think long and hard before posting a message in this forum and make it detailed and a valuable addition to the topic discussed.



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User currently offlinetimberwolf24 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 19930 times:

Could it be Atlanta in response to WN????

I say no, it will not be EWR. EWR is slot controlled and to get slot VX would need to file a request or purchase/lease from another airline. Both transactions would be public and VX could not keep it under wraps. Then does VX have that kind of cash to purchase slots?



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User currently offlinejetMARC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 555 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 19700 times:

Bozeman is such a random city, yet, it is a hip college town...

I too think it will be Houston. With their apparent success serving DFW, desire to lure business pax, and their tendency to attack legacy carriers, new service to IAH from both SFO/LAX seems like the perfect fight to pick with the new UA/CO.



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User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3095 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19642 times:

Quoting jetMARC (Reply 9):
Bozeman is such a random city, yet, it is a hip college town...

I liked Bozeman too the one time I was there. Unfortunately being a cool place doesn't necessarily translate to profitable service in great places like BZM, FLG, PRC, YLW, BLI, TLV, ITO, SBA, RDD, etc.

Any chance the VX will start SJC and compete with what little transcon routes B6 has? They could resume stuff like SJC-IAD, SJC-EWR, SJC-MIA, etc.


User currently offlineHiFlyerAS From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 968 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19461 times:

Quoting timberwolf24 (Reply 8):
no, it will not be EWR. EWR is slot controlled and to get slot VX would need to file a request or purchase/lease from another airline. Both transactions would be public and VX could not keep it under wraps. Then does VX have that kind of cash to purchase slots?

Agreed...definitely not EWR. It looks like UA/CO have eight n/s flights a day LAX-IAH. DL has five daily LAX-ATL along with YX (2) and the new WN flight (1). I think VX would be chicken to compete with WN to either ATL or IAH so I'm going with Philly.


User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2926 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19434 times:

I'll vote for Philadelphia or Atlanta.

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 10):
Any chance the VX will start SJC a

I always thought SJC would be a good addition, albeit they would probably operate it from LAX.


User currently offlinetimberwolf24 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19394 times:

I think they have VX has said without saying what city they will be announcing Tuesday the 17th. What is this Sunday that will be celebrated on Monday, I think that will give you the answer to the new VX city.....


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32867 posts, RR: 71
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19331 times:

Quoting timberwolf24 (Reply 8):
Could it be Atlanta in response to WN????

I say no, it will not be EWR. EWR is slot controlled and to get slot VX would need to file a request or purchase/lease from another airline. Both transactions would be public and VX could not keep it under wraps. Then does VX have that kind of cash to purchase slots?

There is nothing public about a private transaction for slots between two airlines.



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User currently offlineatrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19310 times:

Quoting timberwolf24 (Reply 13):
I think they have VX has said without saying what city they will be announcing Tuesday the 17th. What is this Sunday that will be celebrated on Monday, I think that will give you the answer to the new VX city.....

The timing is indeed quite peculiar and would fit in with that hint!

Also a great response to WN announcing ATL-LAX, though to be fair, it's not a NEW route to the combined WN/FL however would add more competition to Delta too.

Any city is likely, but we haven't heard about them getting slots at EWR so I would put it low on the list.

PHX--I cannot see them flying LAX-PHX, every grandma and grandpa airline is flying the LA Basin to Phoenix-Mesa Market, the yields would just be lower, but SFO and JFK could be likely.

Houston/PHL--Also quite possible too, would add competition to LAX and SFO and NYC

I think any city is possible, but my vote is going to Atlanta.

Alex



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User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3294 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19282 times:

Sigh....PDX is not even on the list.


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User currently offlineFedExFlyerPHL From United States of America, joined May 2008, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 19097 times:

I'm going to go with PHL. If they actually do it, it might actually make it worth it to use LAX instead of SNA to go home for a change.

Jeff



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User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 2112 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 19030 times:

IAH would be awesome, but my money is on PHX or PHL.


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User currently onlinethomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3960 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 18786 times:

If H-Town is the "chosen one", I wonder as to which airport they will select. I would wager that HOU would get the nod, as UA seems to be fortifying IAH.


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User currently offlineIADLHR From Italy, joined Apr 2005, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 18330 times:

Quoting jetMARC (Reply 9):
Bozeman is such a random city, yet, it is a hip college town...

Any chance, I dont think so, it could be a seasonal summer service? It has really changed and grown over the years.

Seriously, I think it will be ATL.


User currently offlinestasisLAX From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3283 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 18160 times:

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 18):
IAH would be awesome, but my money is on PHX or PHL.

I am voting on PHX because the East Valley and Scottsdale is such a resort destination (especially for golfers) and I live here, but I honestly think PHL is the likely winner.



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User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2877 posts, RR: 30
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 17032 times:

It's always exciting to see my favorite U.S. carrier expand!

ATL - bound to happen sooner or later, as it really fits the VX bill - populous, hip major city AND key business market. However, as I understand it the airport is very short on gate space. Unless the opening of Concourse F will change that, VX may wait patiently until they can get a good deal (just as they did at ORD, where they refused to use the relatively expensive int'l terminal or a enter into a costly sublease agreement, instead they waited until industry consolidation freed up domestic gates that they could get directly from the city). VX entry to ATL move would certainly elicit a very aggressive DL response, but VX certainly isn't afraid of competition. At least the other competitor FL/WN is tied up with the merger process and is far more concerned with other carriers - namely F9 - than VX. In any case, I doubt this upcoming addition is ATL. I think ATL could be added sometime in 2013, perhaps when WN drops FL's F product on the long ATL-California runs. That would be an excellent time for somebody to come in and swoop up the higher-yielding traffic that doesn't need/want to fly DL but also won't take the all-Y cattle car.

BZN - stranger things have happened, I guess, but I can't see this small niche market working for VX..yet. I liken this sort of market to B6 at ACK, which they successfully started once the JFK hub was well established from a local O&D loyalty and beyond connectivity perspective. At this point, BZN is still probably better off with UAX service to SFO/LAX. In about 5 years, when VX is better established in its hub markets and has exhausted traditional expansion options (i.e. the other 5 markets on this list) I could maybe see this market coming online.

EWR - we all know VX wants in, but IMHO they missed a golden opportunity - their one and only chance at getting a bunch of well-timed slots - when they sat on the sidelines of the UA/CO merger (all of those airlines' divested slots went to WN, which was able to provide great competition to UA/CO hubs at Chicago, Denver, and Houston; however, I think VX should have argued its case for slots to serve the same purpose: offering much-needed competition to SFO and LAX). Realistically, the only way VX could ever get the prime-time slots it needs would be to engage in a slot swap arrangement (highly unlikely, since the only slots they would have to trade are at JFK, which happens to be an airport where they have said they want more slots) or a very costly purchase (which VX probably can't afford). Unless they managed to come up with an inexpensive leasing agreement that we haven't heard about, I am all but certain EWR will be without VX service for many years to come.

Houston (IAH/HOU?) - bound to happen sooner or later, as it really fits the VX bill - populous, hip major city AND key business market. Something tells me they'd go for IAH, which has plenty of space available in Terminal A right now, but HOU has attracted all of the other (U.S.) LCCs so I'm not certain. While I'm quite sure Houston will come online very soon, I don't think it will be added right now - the new market's presumable summer start would coincide with the worst time of year to visit Houston. I would expect Houston to come online a la DFW in the late fall/early winter - likely towards the end of 2012.

PHL - bound to happen sooner or later, as it really fits the VX bill - populous, hip major city AND key business market. The airport has some spare gate space after all of the WN cuts, which coincidentally mean that VX won't have to worry about competing against them - just the dismal US product, and an obscure DL flight that almost nobody knows about. Plenty of room for a high quality LCC alternative to do well, I'd say. Longer routes like transcons have also been the arena in which VX has done well, as oppose to their struggles in shorter haul markets where people are far less likely to pay a premium over no frills competitors. The new market's presumable summer start would perfectly coincide with the best time of year to visit Philadelphia. Thus, I expect the answer to this contest would be PHL. I have already submitted that answer and look forward to getting the 20% discount!

PHX - from a market perspective it really fits the VX bill - hip major city AND popular resort/leisure destination AND key business market. However, VX has admittedly struggled on shorter-haul routes where people are much less likely to pay a premium for the better product. SFO-PHX is a crowded route with ample UA, WN, and US service while LAX-PHX would be nothing short of a disaster. Also, a presumable summer start would coincide with the worst time of year to visit Phoenix. I highly doubt we'll see PHX added now or anytime particularly soon.

So, I'm quite confident PHL will be this mystery addition, for a summer 2012 start. Then we could see Houston added later in the year, and ATL next year. I think VX will be trying to boost frequency on existing routes (DFW and ORD for starters) - to better appeal to business travelers - than adding a whole bunch of new markets. Then again, I wouldn't be at all shocked if this airline jumped right in to more leisure markets on a whim. Now that all of the major Mexican resorts are covered, MSY and TPA spring to mind. Or perhaps its time to look further south - Costa Rica is mighty popular with the West Coast crowd!



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User currently offlinePHLJJS From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 16937 times:

I'm hoping for PHL. I know the airport has talked to B6 and VX about starting service in the past. There are 4 vacant gates in Terminal D from the UA/CO merger and WN moving over to Terminal E. The only issue right now is ticket counter space since UA/CO still have separate counters in D, but that will solve itself in a few months.

User currently offlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6151 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 13802 times:

Quoting PHLJJS (Reply 23):

Little birdie (Not to be confused with Angry Bird) tells me you will be very happy with the announcement.



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25 Post contains images Indy : VX seems to target high profile and very over served markets. So naturally it has to be Bozeman . j/k. My guess is Atlanta. With ATL being a hub for a
26 PHLJJS : Thanks! Awesome news!! I'm planning a trip out west in early fall and I'm looking forward to flying on VX for it. I'll be going to Yuma, AZ, so I'm h
27 Post contains images BoeingGuy : Yeah, that would be ironic. I wonder where they'd do it from? SFO and LAX? BZM does get ski traffic and Yellowstone traffic seasonally. It is a hub f
28 BobLoblaw : Guessing ATL or IAH.
29 ERJ170 : Gawd! Can RDU get some SFO service from someone? I know VX needs to hit the major markets first but come on! Can I get to the Bay area non-stop! I hav
30 BobLoblaw : VX shoudnt be deterred by B6's experience in LAX-LGB. LAX-ATL has lots more potential than even exists today. Problem is ATL point of sale pax had no
31 Splitterz : I wish VX was more of a major player..
32 AA94 : PHL gets my vote as well ... It totally fits the VX brand image and would be ideal for the summer start timeframe ... Competing with US on transcons i
33 ridgid727 : Along with many Hollywood stars, doesn't Cush own 150 acre ranch in the Gallatin Valley near BZN?
34 IADLHR : I dont totally rule that out for seasonal service. Does anybody know if Bozeman is trying to lure new service with incentives? Is so,Bozeman could be
35 HiFlyerAS : Y'all crack me up! I'd venture to guess you've never been to Bozemen, let alone Montana. Montana is one of the most sparsely populated states in the
36 Post contains links ridgid727 : 796,110 Revenue Enplanement./deplanements a year for an area with only 90,000 in population is pretty darn good. www.bozemanairport.com[Edited 2012-0
37 Post contains links mariner : BZN seems fairly confident it has (or nearly) the funding to subsidize a service to New York and an airline to provide it. It has a SCASD grant for t
38 alitalia744 : Delta rumors are swirling on this route
39 IADLHR : I have heard that and that makes me think Bozeman might be the new city. As a side note, rumors are starting to swril around DL doing NYC-ABQ. daily.
40 SCL767 : VX will launch LAX-PHL and SFO-PHL in April.
41 BoeingGuy : No BZN then? Darn. I was hoping for that one.
42 smoot4208 : If true, this service will fail miserably against US' PHL-LAX/SFO.
43 alitalia744 : Dont thinkmso. They arent failing miserably against others in hubs or in the battle lax-nyc
44 Post contains images TWA772LR : If that's the case, then I guess I won't be getting 20% off a VX flight from the facebook contest. DANG IT!
45 Post contains links SCL767 : VX plans on operating LAX-PHL 3x daily and SFO-PHL 2x daily: http://bit.ly/w2yDhT
46 Indy : VX is doing what they seem to do best. They go into heavily served airports and go after heavily served routes. They bring in a domestic product that
47 FedExFlyerPHL : If this is true, it may make flying out of LAX worthwhile...plus it will be just in time for my planned trip home in April or May. That 20% off will
48 phllax : This will kick US in the behind more than UA and DL! The only thing similar about the USand VX products are Airbus equipment and GoGo. Otherwise VX w
49 Post contains images SurfandSnow : As expected, they have chosen to serve PHL. I think Houston will be next - come winter, of course, when its not oppressively hot there .
50 Post contains links SCL767 : VX will certainly decrease US Airways' market-share on both routes. Virgin America targets US Airways with launch of Philadelphia service in April
51 BobLoblaw : I dont agree. US has the PHL point of sale with corporate contracts. VX is a LAX/SFO point of sale airline whic his the same traffic UA and DL are co
52 Flytravel : A lot of people also took WN via a 1 stop like PHL-DEN-SFO, no plane change. I wonder how much this will affect WN at PHL.
53 Cubsrule : Yup, not to mention PHL-LAX. There's a one-stop PHL-BNA-LAX that I take a fair amount from BNA, and it's not at all unusual to have more than 30 thru
54 Post contains links Pe@rson : Here's CAPA's article on the subject of VX at PHL: http://www.centreforaviation.com/ana...hiladelphia-service-in-april-66235 Good to see some data.
55 jfklganyc : "VX is doing what they seem to do best. They go into heavily served airports and go after heavily served routes. They bring in a domestic product that
56 LAXintl : Great to see VX expand. While PHL is neither a Top-10 O&D market from either SFO or LAX, its a worthwhile link. In regards to the debate who this
57 Post contains images PHLBOS : A twist from an old AA slogan. It's good to see another carrier come to PHL. The success of VX's PHL-LAX/SFO routes could very well be determined by
58 BMIFlyer : Congrats to Virgin America!
59 b727fa : There could be some movement available in ATL. With F opening ALL DL intl will move to E/F (eg, CUN, PUJ, etc) will move to E and not depart from T-D
60 SJUSXM : So much for AA doing LAX-PHL now. ugh
61 Indy : Their system can work just as well as anyones at $100. In fact I would go so far as to say because of their superior product they could raise fares a
62 GSPSPOT : It WOULD be nice to see them start service on some different types of routes, to cities that aren't "the usual suspects". They need to show the South
63 yeelep : If what you say is true, they would be able to charge enough to make money. They don't because they can't.
64 Post contains links HiFlyerAS : Studies show that that is just not true. Look at the Expedia or Orbitz website....who's flights get listed first? The ones that are the cheapest. Tha
65 boilerla : I don't think this will hurt UA at all since they just code-share the flight with US. UA dropped this route last summer IIRC. If anybody it'll hit US
66 usairways85 : I think that shot went out the window when DL announced LAX-PHL Correct me if I am wrong but I believe UA LAX-PHL was only a seasonal suspension and
67 Indy : So you say that people are not willing to spend more for a better product? That is a bold and very incorrect statement. People are absolutely willing
68 poLOT : VX is over 4 years old...time is running out on the "I'm just a start-up" card.
69 steeler83 : My wife told me about VX coming to PHL. We plan on visiting So-Cal some time late this comming Summer. Good to know VX is an option!
70 kamboi : I got an e-mail from VX, saying it's PHL and offering starting fares.
71 LAXintl : Well in reality they will continue to be the upstart for quite a few more years -- they have lots of growth ahead of them with 75 odd planes on the w
72 poLOT : The difference if that JetBlue was profitable for most of that time. In fact I believe it made a profit in 2001, only its 2nd year in operations. The
73 LAXintl : Well when cost curve is indeed being driven by start-up and growth expenses, I don't see the point not calling them "start-up cost". Its really no dif
74 Post contains links atrude777 : Interesting Video Announcement from Virgin America! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PmPN...e=g-u&context=G2d3f853FUAAAAAAABAA Alex
75 HiFlyerAS : With one exception...AIRLINES. The airline industry is littered with the carcasses of attempts to provide a high end, premium product. L'Avion, MaxJe
76 Post contains links HiFlyerAS : Excellent article on VX after their 3rd quarter 2011 earnings were announced: http://www.centreforaviation.com/ana...2012-but-still-breaking-even-6534
77 jetMARC : Uh, gross. Were they trying to advertise PHL or every conture of the dancer's body, junk, and backside? JetBlue used "blue people" like that at their
78 jetMARC : WOW. $664.7 million since they started... Hang in there VX, if AA pulled it off that long, so can you! (please note sarcasm).
79 HiFlyerAS : Yep, apparently over 1/2 a BILLION dollars U.S. down the toilet.
80 LAXintl : I'm not sure why you associate an investment, with flushing money down a toilet. There are hundreds if not thousand of new companies launched in Amer
81 jetsetter629 : It's a spoof of the very popular show on FX called "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" with Danny DeVito. That is "Green Man"!
82 HiFlyerAS : Can anyone tell me how many of VX's aircraft are 'owned' and how many are leased?
83 olddominion727 : SJC has my vote too, SNA or DEN also, wait... PDX service to LAX/SFO/LAS/JFK/IAD... they'd kill AS & UA
84 FreequentFlier : The reality is that VX would have been folded up long ago if it didn't have "Virgin" in its name. That's actually a credit to Richard Branson, who ha
85 jetMARC : Guess it would be funny if I knew about it... but I wonder how popular Green Man really is. If people are unable to link the VX promo with him, then
86 Post contains images mariner : And a very high percentage of those companies never turn a profit - many of of them go under. How many tech companies - which had never turned a prof
87 Post contains images Indy : And there is a significantly larger list of mainstream and low fare carriers that have failed. So that argument doesn't fly. No pun intended. Ok.. ma
88 Post contains links HiFlyerAS : According to this article in the New York Times from one year ago, on-line travel agencies accounted for approximately 17% of AA's total ticket sales
89 SANFan : Ummmm.... Virgin has already started, and shortly thereafter, ended service at SNA (4/2009 to 5/2010.) You might want to take a look at the VX Route
90 PHLwok : And in spite of all their losses, they're entering markets with long stage lengths (2,401 miles on PHL-LAX and 2,521 miles on PHL-SFO) in a high fuel
91 commavia : I heard Dave Cush (Virgin America CEO) say today that Virgin announced Philadelphia as its second choice because it couldn't get access to its first c
92 Post contains links LAXintl : Interview with Dave Cush. Mentioned reasons VX chose PHL. "In Philadelphia, we saw two things that were particularly attractive," said Virgin America
93 slcdeltarumd11 : How long will Deltas less than daily attempt at PHL-LAX last now? I see more DL quick LAX withdrawl in the future. Anyone think Delta really has a lon
94 olddominion727 : I hope PHX. But my gut says ATL or PHL
95 Post contains images slcdeltarumd11 : Your gut is correct PHL has already been announced 3x daily to LAX and 2x to SFO. I think PHL makes the most sense right now to at least give a shot.
96 twinotter : Corporate travel departments don't care how nice or cool the cabin is. Corporations use majors for ability to reschedule during irregular operations.
97 SurfandSnow : I wouldn't put it past DL to stick with the LAX-PHL route. They certainly aren't afraid to compete at LAX (what with recent additions like LAX-OAK, L
98 slcdeltarumd11 : I definitely agree. I think that is why they selected PHL. I was just saying i think thats Deltas best chance of long term survival on this route. Yo
99 Post contains links atrude777 : Add Frontier Airlines to that list.. Frontier will also fly its first-ever transcontinental flight this Sunday between Los Angeles International Airp
100 LAXintl : Oh I think they have done well - LAX-SFO is now up to 7-8x daily depending on the day. From what I gather, SNA was as much an overhead cost issue as
101 atrude777 : Argh! I specifically googled it to make sure I didn't confuse the airport code, I had known it was Toronto the whole time yet typed YVR! My mistake,
102 slcdeltarumd11 : I definitely agree i think VX is holding pretty well on the LAX-SFO route, LA area to SF area is pretty competitive SNA probably was too limited for
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