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SLC To Get Brand New Terminal  
User currently offlinetan1mill From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 71 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 21387 times:

Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker announced today during his State of the City address that the Salt Lake airport will be demolished and a brand new one will be built. The project has a price tag of $1.8 billion.

http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-ma...y-address-20120117,0,3991213.story


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User currently offlineCIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2221 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 21325 times:

is it a brand new entire airport, or just a new terminal? The article is kind of vague. Sounds like just a new terminal. Either way congrats to SLC, have never been through there but being a major hub for a strong airline (DL) and hearing stories of how crowded and cramped it can be sounds like this has been a long time coming.

User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 2791 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 21293 times:

from the story:

Work is still being done on the final design. Becker says they have been looking at airports around the world, and Salt Lake City's will be unique. All of the current terminals will be combined into one to make it easier for travelers to get around. Becker says it will be a much more efficient airport and travelers should find it easier to get through security check points.

The current runways will not be affected by construction. They hope to break ground on the new airport sometime next year.


User currently offlinedbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 860 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 21143 times:

Quoting catiii (Reply 2):
from the story:

Work is still being done on the final design. Becker says they have been looking at airports around the world, and Salt Lake City's will be unique. All of the current terminals will be combined into one to make it easier for travelers to get around. Becker says it will be a much more efficient airport and travelers should find it easier to get through security check points.

The current runways will not be affected by construction. They hope to break ground on the new airport sometime next year.

Yeah, it's annoying..why did he keep saying "airport" when he really meant "terminal"?


User currently offlinemilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1941 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 21128 times:

What a waste of taxpayer money, or Delta's

User currently offlinetan1mill From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 21091 times:

The article says an entirely new airport will be built. $1.8 billion over 8 to 10 years would be a lot for just a terminal.


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User currently offlineFlaps From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1227 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 21059 times:

Build it and they will leave. Money not well spent.

User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 21033 times:

Quoting tan1mill (Reply 5):
The article says an entirely new airport will be built. $1.8 billion over 8 to 10 years would be a lot for just a terminal.



$1.8B is not a lot for a terminal. Just look at the price tag for new terminals around the country...ATL's concourse F, the JFK T4 expansion, TBIT at LAX.....

I'm thinking the reporter's using "airport" and "passenger terminal" interchangeably..

[Edited 2012-01-17 19:28:30]


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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6995 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 21028 times:

Quoting tan1mill (Reply 5):

Not that much money for a whole new terminal building. Look how much MIA's new terminals cost. It was over 1.8 billion I believe.

Is SLC in bad shape? I imagine they are banking on DL satying put and expanding. I guess there aren't any alternatives for a west coast hub for DL with what SLC does for them.



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User currently offlinealitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4731 posts, RR: 45
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 20972 times:

Wasn't this always in the plan for SLC?

Take a look at the airport masterplan:

http://www.slcairport.com/plans.asp


http://www.slcairport.com/cmsdocuments/20YearMasterPlan.pdf



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User currently offlineyeogeo From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 882 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 20934 times:

Construction starts in 2013, to be completed somewhere between 2021-2023.

Man, that seems like a very long time! I suppose building in phases in and around the existing terminals adds to the complexity and the time needed to complete it (not to mention the cost).

Is SLC so hemmed-in that they couldn't come up with a site on property where they could build without the challenges of working around the existing terminal? (Just curious).

yeo



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User currently offlinetan1mill From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 20902 times:

You guys are correct. In my head I was thinking of just the concourses at SLC instead of the whole terminal for some reason.

[Edited 2012-01-17 19:30:56]


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User currently offlinedeltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1426 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 20762 times:

This article from the Salt Lake Tribune doesn't sound as glamorous as the master plan photos. Looks like are ditching the ATL style layout and using the existing concourses. See the bottom of page 1.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home2/5...nal-concourse-lake.html.csp?page=1

Preliminary sketches place the new terminal west of the existing parking structure with a new concourse stretching farther west from there. The light-rail line, now under construction from downtown Salt Lake City, would extend to the new terminal, and the new parking structure would go south of the new terminal.

The city then would demolish Concourse E and build a new concourse stretching east from the new terminal with extensions connecting to concourses A, B, C and D. Ultimately crews would demolish Concourse A before completing the project in about 2022, while B, C and D would remain in service as spokes off of the new construction’s east end.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 20567 times:

Quoting yeogeo (Reply 10):
Construction starts in 2013, to be completed somewhere between 2021-2023.

Man, that seems like a very long time! I suppose building in phases in and around the existing terminals adds to the complexity and the time needed to complete it (not to mention the cost).

Is SLC so hemmed-in that they couldn't come up with a site on property where they could build without the challenges of working around the existing terminal? (Just curious).

yeo



Just take a look at some aerial views. The property itself is quite massive but to simply place the new terminal in an new location would require A LOT of rework with the current infrastructure currently in place. Basically, the new landside terminal will be built directly over the current terminal and 5 concourse footprint. Parking and the the airport access and exit will remain the same from hywy 80. the second "terminal/concourse" will be directly north of the landside terminal. Kind of where taxiway echo is. There are also adding 2 new runways. One west of the current 34L and one directly over the current 35 (realigning to run exactly parallel with the other main runways). Also extending 34R.

The new main terminal will have 31 mainline gates and the north concourse will have 15 mainline gates and 44 RJ gates. There's also extensive rework of the west GA area.



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User currently offlineBD338 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 697 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 20529 times:

Quoting deltaffindfw (Reply 12):

The city then would demolish Concourse E and build a new concourse stretching east from the new terminal with extensions connecting to concourses A, B, C and D. Ultimately crews would demolish Concourse A before completing the project in about 2022, while B, C and D would remain in service as spokes off of the new construction’s east end.

which would fail to solve one of the biggest inefficiencies in the current layout. The alleys get backed up during busy periods. Looks like the single storey section of B would go. The West concourse looks like it would replace E and East concourse would replace A and add a few gates. Hope B,C & D get an overhaul, they're looking dated. $1.8Bn for a fancy main terminal and to replace the RJ 'bus stop' terminal? I can believe 2022 finish if they use the same contractors currently remodeling the shops and restaurants...taken months so far and most are still closed.


User currently offlineLambertman From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2064 posts, RR: 36
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 20476 times:

I work in public finance consulting for a living and I must say -- this is an awful idea.

The whole point of building a new terminal and/or new airport should be to maximize your economic possibilities and realities. And, I'm not sure if Salt Lake brass didn't notice, but the region is essentially at its apex in terms of air service and the possibilities for future air service. A new terminal won't do anything other than add a little civic pride, perhaps raise the profile of the City to a small degree, and, most importantly, tack on a huge debt service number onto the airport's ledger.

Yeah. Good luck with that.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 20361 times:

Quoting Lambertman (Reply 15):
I work in public finance consulting for a living and I must say -- this is an awful idea.

The whole point of building a new terminal and/or new airport should be to maximize your economic possibilities and realities. And, I'm not sure if Salt Lake brass didn't notice, but the region is essentially at its apex in terms of air service and the possibilities for future air service. A new terminal won't do anything other than add a little civic pride, perhaps raise the profile of the City to a small degree, and, most importantly, tack on a huge debt service number onto the airport's ledger.

Yeah. Good luck with that.



So tell me this. At what point do you decide your facilities are aging and need to be replaced?? This is a TEN YEAR project. It has to start at some point. Or you can take the road of JFK, LGA, and EWR....oh boy we sure do hear all the complaints every single day on this site...

So let's just SAY, they wait another oh, 10 or 15 years, that puts them out well into 2040.



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User currently offlineSuperDash From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 574 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 20269 times:

Colossal waste of money!

First off, SLC is not the most sexy terminal in the world. But it is HUGELY functional. Even a walk from B to E is not the heart attack run that you get in Minneapolis or Atlanta.

Second, SLC might want to wait to see what happens with AA. IF DL were to get AA, SLC will likely be reduced.

Best thing SLC can spend its money on- better restaurants. The terminal is great. Adding TRAX is good and having rental cars located not only in the same State (reference Vegas, Phoenix, Denver and soon, Seattle) but hey, just across the street from the bag claim is AMAZING!

Bottom line .... Don't screw up SLC! It's a great airport...keep it so...keep it's costs low!


User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9955 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 20248 times:

Quoting yeogeo (Reply 10):
Is SLC so hemmed-in that they couldn't come up with a site on property where they could build without the challenges of working around the existing terminal?

Well, yeah......it's hemmed in on both sides by the runways, on the north by the hangars and DL's res building and on the south by all the landside structures. Is it really needed? Last time the city wanted to build a new terminal (using the ATL type layout) DL said no, they weren't going to put up that kind of money and when you don't have numero uno on board, it doesn't get done. Concourse D was built in '83-'84 and E after that. Without actually building a new terminal over the footprint of the current one, I can't imagine where else they could put an entirely new structure.



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User currently offlinesouthloopswa From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 41 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 20172 times:

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...ke-City-International-Airport.html

The Deseret News says that one of the big reasons is for seismic reasons. Some of the current facilities are 50 years old and not up to code. SLC is along the Wasatch Fault that is expected to produce a 7.0 earthquake at some point.


User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5221 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 20140 times:

I agree about the price tag of $1.8B; sounds very low to me. And the length of the rebuilding time-frame seems very long.

I know... maybe the state of Utah will be using local volunteer labor for the job!

bb


User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9955 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 20113 times:

Quoting SuperDash (Reply 17):
Best thing SLC can spend its money on- better restaurants.

I worked there from 1982 until 2005 and the restaurants that are there, now, are a vast improvement over what has been there in the past. Before, there may have been 1-2 sitdown restaurants in the whole terminal and those, IIRC, were in terminal one. There are many, many more eating choice there now than there ever were before.



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User currently offlinePanAm788 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 18 hours ago) and read 19887 times:

I think we need to learn more before we jump to conclusions. I fly to SLC often, and to me it seems like a perfectly fine airport. That being said, if the airport isn't up to code and needs to be replaced, they might as well tackle the problem sooner rather than later. Too often we Americans wait until the last minute on these things and the solution ultimately comes in late and overpriced to the annoyance of everyone (prime example here in MSP is the Metrodome replacement debacle). If DL is on board with this and the money is in place, I see this as a positive for SLC, but DL being ok with this is pretty important.


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User currently offlinetimpdx From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 474 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 18 hours ago) and read 19759 times:

I fly there a bunch and the rental car situation is to die for, oh, man, wish there otherr airports could take the cue of SLC. That said, there are big time problems with security lines there I would say among the worst waits I have had at an airport of its size. Restaurants need improvement. Sure. Other than that, I say refresh the terminals, connect light rail and call it good, keeping the taxes and fees down. Please don't mess with the awesome rental car counters, please?

User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2491 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 17 hours ago) and read 19474 times:

It looks like a mini-ATL.
The problem will be the construction process. It looks like the new terminal and gates will be right where the current ones are now. How do you transition without massive closures, openings, etc. during the process. The entire terminal and gates looks like a 10 year nightmare of "construction season".


25 NASCARAirforce : Not really, DTW's McNamara Terminal was $2 bil, MIA terminal projects were around $5 bil 1.8 bil would be very cheap for a whole new airport - a new
26 Pellegrine : A brand new SLC airport would cost far more than $18 billion dollars let alone $1.8B. LOL a runway costs $1.8B. Hilarious. A new terminal I could beli
27 FlyASAGuy2005 : Exactly my point...and the reason why America's infrastructure system is crumbling before us today...
28 PSU.DTW.SCE : DTW McNamera terminal was $1 Bil in late 90's/early 2000's, in 2011 it would easily cost $3 Bil+. Construction costs have skyrocketed over the past d
29 thrufru : Delta's terminal alone in BOS (built 10 yrs ago) was reported to exceed $1Bn. I bet the final price will be a heck of a lot more than $1.8Bn.
30 Post contains links yeogeo : I think some people may be looking at the (apparently out of date) previous master plans for SLC such as those linked at post 9 by alitalia744, which
31 CALPSAFltSkeds : Thanks for the update. I guess looking at the official SLC airport website isn't good enough for up to date information. I don't get it. $1.8 billion
32 mayor : I don't think so.......the plans and construction of the light rail were going ahead, no matter what the terminal was.....matter of fact, the line to
33 rl757pvd : What theu are doing is essentially getting whats necessary while at the same time, setting the stage for the grander plan (older ATL style plan) late
34 Pellegrine : Thanks for the clarification. Still. LOL @ the mayor and his braggadocio. Politicians never change. That is a LOT of construction and demolition for
35 FlyPNS1 : Yeah, I'd be amazed if they did all this for 1.8B...especially with the project spread over ten years, the costs in the out-years will be so hard to
36 rampart : DL is finding themselves amidst several airport expansions or reconstructions. SLC. JFK. LGA. Isn't MSP also going to have a large renovation? -Rampa
37 mayor : Of course......several years ago, DL put the kibosh on the plans for the ATL style terminal because it was too expensive and saw no reason for it, at
38 Post contains images OA412 : No. The airport isn't the most glamorous out there, but it's certainly clean and extremely efficient. However, given its layout, it is less efficient
39 Post contains images airbazar : Where? PEK T3 cost $4.6 billion. LHR T5 alone cost over over $6 billion. DL's terminal A at BOS which is tiny by comparison, cost $400 million and it
40 canadianpylon : The new Winnipeg (YWG) Terminal which opened in October this past year cost $585 million for 11 gates. At 74 gates, a fair estimate for SLC could be
41 1337Delta764 : The big question is: Will an automated people mover be included in the plans? WIth a redevelopment like this, it would make sense to add one, as most
42 gcb5196 : I agree with OA412, it looks like a hybrid version. What we may see is when the need or want arrives for the next parallel concourse, they will build
43 Post contains links gcb5196 : I just read a news report and if it is to be trusted, Delta and other airlines are offering to help fund the rebuild. Sounds like Delta may be in on t
44 tan1mill : When I made that post I was imagining in my head $1.8 billion for just one of the concourses at SLC for some reason, which is why I thought it was a
45 Zkpilot : SLC is quite a nice airport but I can see with growth it will become less user friendly. Seems a lot of money to spend (most airports would redevelop
46 Post contains links DLSLC : I haven't seen this link posted yet. It is a slideshow of the phases of the airport and the plan of construction, and then finally the finished produc
47 Post contains images panam330 : Every seat will have Panasonic monitors, new overhead bins and new LED lighting, too. Hardly a concern. Moving sidewalks will do the job. Good to see
48 JaxMan19 : JAX completly redid their whole airport including 20 new gates at a cost of $175 million...
49 brilondon : Yes and no. They will probably have a PFC added on to the fares of the flights in and out SLC.
50 yeogeo : O.K. I know acronyms are cool, but sometimes they're a PITA. PFC=Passenger Facility Charge. Thanks Google. yeo
51 mayor : Well, since SLC is a self funded airport, I don't think the taxpayers have anything to worry about. Don't know why you would say it's a waste of DL's
52 mayor : According to the master plan, the last phase of this project is to renovate concourses B, C & D from 2022-2026. What will be torn down, during th
53 PSU.DTW.SCE : That is generally a waste of space though, particularly for any airport like SLC that does not see a large about of widebody aircraft. Yes, it is sma
54 Cubsrule : The selection of airports on slide 6 is convenient. CLT, for instance, which has far lower cost per enplaned passenger than SLC, is absent.
55 FlyPNS1 : But is CLT relevant?? Not really, since the largest tenant at SLC is DL. You'll notice virtually all of DL's hub airports are included (ATL, DTW, MSP
56 Cubsrule : Actually, the fix for this - adding some mainline gates to Concourse E - is already in the works, and CLT has some pretty comprehensive plans involvi
57 FlyPNS1 : But that doesn't really fix the problem at E as E wasn't made to handle mainline planes. The seating areas are too small, the concourses and walkways
58 Cubsrule : They have? Which LFCs have wanted to start service to CLT but been unable to due to lack of gates? Not TZ, DH, FL, or B6.
59 FlyPNS1 : 1 gate per each LCC doesn't allow for much growth or give much flexibility. Let's say WN hadn't bought FL, but wanted to serve CLT. Would they be abl
60 Cubsrule : Sure. All it would have taken was moving a legacy (probably AA) over to the EN gates on D and moving those EN flights to space on E.
61 mcg : I gotta ask, what problem are they trying to fix? SLC is a excellent, very functional airport. As they say, don't #$%& with it!
62 mayor : Then what in the hell is all that construction that has been going on for the last 20 years? I'll admit that there haven't been any "new" concourses
63 Cubsrule : You are putting words in my mouth. There's nothing wrong with facilities that are 20, 30 or even 40 years old. But it's laughable to boast about low
64 mayor : But it IS still low, no matter the reason. And, as I said, there might have not been any VISIBLE renovations going on, on the outside, but there cert
65 Cubsrule : Sure, and that's great. But I don't understand the argument. It seems to be "we have low CPE, so let's spend lots of money and increase our CPE." Ren
66 mayor : No, the argument is lets spend some money on this and make it earthquake safe, improve the operations, etc. Now, I couldn't tell you why they picked
67 ScottB : Nope, it was half a billion, and it was completed about seven years ago. And BOS is in a much higher-cost region than SLC. SLC isn't getting 74 new g
68 Cubsrule : All of which is valid, but it has nothing to do with SLC's CPE. That's what confuses me. To me, this renovation is about an old, overtaxed facility t
69 jetlanta : Another hilarious thread. Let's be real. If Delta thinks that this investment is worth it, it is worth it. No person or entity is more acutely in-tune
70 DLSLC : Thank you, finally someone with reason.
71 FlyPNS1 : So DL can do no wrong and is always perfect in the decisions it makes? No one should ever question any decision by Delta because they are perfect. Th
72 Cubsrule : Indeed, one such example is (or should be) pretty near and dear to Delta's heart and has been cited in this thread: CVG.
73 jetlanta : Whoa....let's step back and take a look here. This isn't some exercise in rampant expansionism. This project will REDUCE the number of gates at SLC.
74 rampart : I guess if we're not in the inner circle, we're armchair quarterbacks? I think there is some middle ground of knowledgable but not directly involved.
75 jetlanta : Exactly how are they in flux and controversial? Where besides here?
76 rampart : Well, they have been changing. hence, flux. A thread on that just the other day. Whether they'll abandon the renovations by moving to T8. The whole e
77 FlyASAGuy2005 : What are you talking about and where are you getting this info from, other than this board...? The T4 expansion project is on schedule and set for co
78 rampart : No confusion. I've been on A.net 6 years. I've followed the Delta JFK plans since the late 1990s. I'm regarding longer term evolution. IIRC, the orig
79 SLCUT2777 : And ther have been those that think DL will one day abandon SLC which have been rumored since DEN built DIA but have never reached fruition. The SLC
80 jetlanta : Delta and PANYNJ announced ONE plan right before 9/11. That plan was abandoned after that tragic event. 10 years later, Delta and PANYNJ announced a
81 Post contains images FlyASAGuy2005 : Well I most certainly understand all of that and Delta's terminal plans for JFK has been on again off again for the better part of 16 years but it so
82 Post contains images mayor : And the terminal expansion was in use for how many years during CVG's heyday??? I'd say that the expansion worked quite well for the time period it w
83 FlyASAGuy2005 : I'm on my phone so I can't selective text but as to your middle comment about that certain member,...soooo true. It was funny because just weeks prio
84 rampart : Chill. I've not attacked you nor Delta. As I said, and will say again, my observation of the projects and the flux -- a fact, as all projects have fl
85 mayor : Well, if you think so, fine. That certain person made so many comments about this subject that perhaps he actually deserves this from someone. You'll
86 FlyASAGuy2005 : Agree with you on almost all points. As to the last part, I have to agree with Mayor as I did in my post above. Can't name names because the mod poli
87 rampart : I see your perspective. The way I see it is that SLC has wanted to modernize their airport with a new terminal for more than a decade. It took severa
88 Post contains images Pellegrine : I don't know (or shall involve myself in) half of what my fellow posters are up in arms here, but I do know that: said demo'ing and construction WILL
89 Post contains images FlyASAGuy2005 : Take it from someone who flies through Salt Lake very often IMO; the place would need it sooner rather than later. At this point, facelifts aren't go
90 Post contains links GSPSPOT : True - even here at lil' ol' GSP, our terminal/concourse renovation is expected to be $900 million... And we're using the bones of the existing build
91 jetlanta : I suppose we are up in arms about posts like yours. You "know" that this project "WILL cost more than $1.8B and DL/passengers/city/airport will have
92 Cubsrule : JAX in 2006 - with the 3 original concourses - versus JAX now is night and day. JAX before they rebuilt the landside areas (which was the early 2000s
93 Post contains images N1120A : Some people call new terminals a new airport. They did that a lot with ONT. Its not a new field, but a new port. See. It makes more sense to work aro
94 slcdeltarumd11 : I think this is good news overall. SLC is not in the position of some of other midwestern cities that spent alot of money to later see empty terminals
95 cokepopper : Do you mean the St Thomas guy who is all knowing in the PANYNJ?
96 Post contains images mayor : And THAT is exactly what I was referring to. In this case, the party in question had replied to so many different threads where the subject was the t
97 slcdeltarumd11 : It seems like most people agree SLC needs a new terminal but JFK is really the hub that needs a new terminal quickly as someone said. Deltas JFK is su
98 SLCUT2777 : WN would move MUCH faster at that one. There are many in SLC that would love for WN to come in and make SLC a focus airport like LAS, PHX MDW etc...
99 toltommy : You DO realize construction is under way at JFK, right? Do a search..... The Worldport is going to be demolished.
100 delta2ual : I hear ya. I was suspended after getting really mad at the mods and saying some really mean things in the heat of the moment (I'm actually surprised
101 Post contains images mayor : The SLC project is bound to cost less than the original, ATL type, plans were, even if it IS more than $1.8bn. Now, long as they don't use the same c
102 flyingcaT : Looks to me like an ATL style airport is still in the works. The terminal building looks oriented to build a tram and tunnel. The beauty of this plan
103 Post contains links and images PITrules : I don't understand all the comments about this not being related to the ATL style master plan. The previous master plan remains the master plan until
104 Post contains images mayor : Yes the building is straight and they will park a/c around it......after that, the similarity ends. IIRC, the original "ATL" style plan was to be nor
105 gcb5196 : Mayor if you look at the current plans just released, one of the first things they are going to do is renovate the A gates. Which will then be torn do
106 gcb5196 : Last year the airport completed the renovation for the Y or E concourse. Part of it will be one of the first things demolished. So I don't believe the
107 Aloha717200 : This news is somewhat bittersweet for me. I love the current SLC airport. It's actually surprising how crowded it's become, though. I have fond memori
108 Post contains links and images PITrules : Here is the now scrapped terminal plan from the 1980's, well before the ATL style plan was adopted. Note the people mover along the C and D concourse
109 mayor : Well, when you get my age, you don't think much beyond 2026........to me, that's a ways in the future. When was this plan thought up? Was it before i
110 PITrules : I don't have an exact date at the moment, but this is from the mid to late '80's, and yes Delta already had a hub at SLC, inherited from Western whic
111 FlyASAGuy2005 : Seems to me like the plan has changed about 3 times. From what you posted to: To the current plan.
112 Aloha717200 : Yes!! This is exactly the sort of thing I was talking about! I had no idea this was at one time actually part of the plan. I would have LOVED to have
113 Post contains images mayor : Yes, I know that.......I was THERE, remember......before the merger and after the merger. Actually, Western's hub only existed from about '81.
114 SLCUT2777 : ...and Western really wanted DEN, but no room at the Stapleton facility to do what they wanted. It helped influence the plan to build the DIA facilit
115 Post contains images PITrules : Umm OK?? Lol I have no idea where you were, where you are, or where you're going. You asked me a question and I answered it.
116 mayor : Well, it might help if you read ALL the responses and you'd see that I worked at SLC for 23 years with DL until I retired in 2005.
117 WesternA318 : The current stop just south of the Terminal 1 doors is looking more and more complete every day, and it looks like an interim solution until the new
118 SLCUT2777 : That didn't change the fact that DEN wanted them. CO eventually pulled the plug on the idea of staying in DEN, and UA just got bigger. But the DEN De
119 WesternA318 : Of course not, an airportis a business itself and has to keep attracting new busineeses to it. Kansas City has done the same, so has places like Prov
120 Aloha717200 : I wonder if there's a way to petition them to consider this plan? I mean...it's bound to be far, far, far cheaper than what they currently have plann
121 SLCUT2777 : It's obsolete by todays standards, and given the likely growth SLC will continue to see, it wouldn't work for DL...perhaps only if DL pulled out and
122 rampart : You're right! I had seen this before as well. It was on display in the terminal, wasn't it? I would have seen it when I was first taking Morris Air S
123 Cubsrule : It's not too much different from what CLT or PHL have. I think it could work with some changes (e.g. for RJs).
124 mayor : There used to be a display in terminal # 1, past security.
125 SLCUT2777 : If a major seismic retrofit is required (which is the case for SLC in this instance), it makes no sense to just add on to the current half century-ol
126 WesternA318 : You could, but it would fall on deaf ears. The current plan his the almighty Delta aprroving it, and SLC isnt about to do anything to piss them off.
127 Cubsrule : I'm not quibbling with that point, just observing that the layout would work.
128 WesternA318 : I'm too lazy to look it up, but is there a date set for the Phase I groundbreaking?
129 mayor : There's a rough timetable on page 30 of the presentation......groundbreaking looks to be in 2013.
130 WesternA318 : Thanks, Mayor. I cant wait for it, this seems to be an exciting proposition for SLC. I was in the Dept. of Airports offcie yesterday in SLC and a few
131 Post contains images Pellegrine : I'm all for improvement in American Infrastructure, and let's do it sooner rather than later...because more than half of it looks like s*** compared
132 WesternA318 : I want to believe its just the Contractors bid to get it at that price, lol. We ALL know it'll go up in cost as the project progresses, but i for one
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