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JAL Announces New Boeing 787 Routes  
User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 17121 times:

Today, JAL officially announced more B-787-8 destinations.

From the end of March, JAL will deploy the B-787-8 on the HND-PEK route daily. The NRT-DEL route will operate 4x weekly with the B-787-8 and the NRT-DME route will operate 3x weekly with the B-787-8.

*From April 22, 2012, JAL will launch NRT-BOS 4x weekly with the B-787-8 and will increase frequency on the route to a daily service starting on July 1, 2012.

From September 2012, both the HND-SIN and NRT-SIN routes will operate daily with the B-787-8.

From October 28, 2012, NRT-SIN will increase to 2x daily with the B-787-8 and HND-SIN will continue to operate daily with the B-787-8.

*Previously announced by JAL last year.

JAL Group Route, Flight Frequency and Fleet Plans for First Half of FY 2012

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User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5950 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 16667 times:
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What???? No SEA-NRT 787 service??? LOL! Maybe eventually...competition with ANA.

User currently offlinesydscott From Australia, joined Oct 2003, 3189 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 16410 times:

What's the 787 delivery schedule for JAL?

User currently offlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1907 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 16167 times:

how many B787 are they going to get in the next 9 months??

It seems like they need a lot of planes to do all of that schedule.


User currently offlinecarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2977 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 15721 times:

Surely they have had discussions with Boeing on the 787 deliveries.
While NH is extremely vague the future of 787 routes, JAL seems extremely confident that Boeing will deliver on time.


User currently offlineflythere From Hong Kong, joined May 2010, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 15549 times:

Seems that they have a good balance between short-haul and long-haul usage of the new aircrafts.

User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 15490 times:

Quoting sydscott (Reply 2):
What's the 787 delivery schedule for JAL?

Hopefully JAL will receive their first B-787-8 by the end of February.

Quoting carpethead (Reply 4):
JAL seems extremely confident that Boeing will deliver on time.

JAL is also confident that it will indeed launch the NRT-BOS route on April 22, 2012 with the B-787-8:
http://www.ar.jal.com/arl/region/en/enews/120117e_bos2.html

Link below in Japanese features JAL's initial Boeing 787 route map:
http://www.jal.co.jp/787/rosen.html


User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 15057 times:

I might have the wrong end of the stick but I thought the whole idea of a 787 was to do long thin routes. I was expecting Tokyo-Londrina or Tokyo-Dar es Salaam.

JAL seem to have them on routes that a 777 could do. What is the advantage of a 787 on a route the 777 could do?


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 14894 times:

Quoting Babybus (Reply 7):
I might have the wrong end of the stick but I thought the whole idea of a 787 was to do long thin routes.

NRT-BOS is a thin long-haul route.

Quoting Babybus (Reply 7):
JAL seem to have them on routes that a 777 could do. What is the advantage of a 787 on a route the 777 could do?

It will increase the profitability of certain routes. The B-787-8s will not only lower JAL's operating costs on certain routes. It will also maximize LFs on certain existing routes operated with the B-777-200ERs, i.e. NRT-DEL, NRT-DME, etc.


User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3437 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 14875 times:

Quoting Babybus (Reply 7):
JAL seem to have them on routes that a 777 could do. What is the advantage of a 787 on a route the 777 could do?

Just a guess but perhaps, right-sizing capacity due to global factors and competition and using a more fuel efficient plane to cut costs.

AA1818



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User currently offlinepoLOT From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2366 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 14320 times:

Quoting Babybus (Reply 7):
JAL seem to have them on routes that a 777 could do. What is the advantage of a 787 on a route the 777 could do?

A 777 will be able to fly most of the routes that 787 can fly, they have (or will eventually have) about the same range. Long thin routes means routes longer than what the A330/767 are capable of, but where there is not enough traffic to justify using a larger jet such as a 777,A340,A380 etc.


User currently offlinewindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2334 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week ago) and read 10145 times:

Wow JAL is moving fast!!
Great news! Interesting use of this amazing machine! Cool aviation days aheard  

Boaz.



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User currently offlinejonathanxxxx From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 673 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week ago) and read 10063 times:

Come on JAL! Where's MIA-NRT?  

User currently offlineBobLoblaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1725 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 11 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5884 times:

Quoting Babybus (Reply 7):
I might have the wrong end of the stick but I thought the whole idea of a 787 was to do long thin routes. I was expecting Tokyo-Londrina

Is that in Brazil? I think that is a bit far.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25999 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (2 years 11 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5773 times:

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 1):
What???? No SEA-NRT 787 service??? LOL! Maybe eventually...competition with ANA.

Don't think there's room for 4 carriers SEA-NRT.


User currently offlinehz747300 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2004, 1710 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 11 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5344 times:
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Why no Hong Kong?

I need to try this plane soon. I waited too long to fly the A380, but was able to do that one 4 times last year!



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User currently offlineflylku From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5096 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 8):
NRT-BOS is a thin long-haul route.

I believe that no Asian carrier currently serves BOS (at least I did not see one during the 10 trips I made there last year but it could have just been timing). Anyway, is this a new city pair for JAL and if so, will they inaguarate it with the 787 or will/has it commenced and switch to the new hardware when available?



...are we there yet?
User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11973 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4943 times:

Good to see that JAL is adding back JL711, the evening NRT-SIN departure. This is going to substantial improve (or, should I say, restore) the competitive position of AA/JL in the USA-SIN market, where they were severely lacking without a westbound connection.

User currently offlineyeogeo From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 890 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (2 years 11 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4806 times:

Quoting flylku (Reply 16):
I believe that no Asian carrier currently serves BOS

Correct. No American carrier serves Asia from Boston nonstop either.

Quoting flylku (Reply 16):
is this a new city pair for JAL

Yes.

Quoting flylku (Reply 16):
will [JAL] inaguarate it with the 787

As it stands now, yes.

yeo



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User currently offlineAirlineReporter From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 11 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4024 times:

Quoting sydscott (Reply 2):
What's the 787 delivery schedule for JAL?

What is the schedule for any airline right now? ANA still has a few coming to them before any other airline gets them, but with only four actually delivered, it would be a while.

David


User currently offlineweebie From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 202 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 11 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3891 times:

that 767 I keep seeing at Changi is a disgrace. Good to see changes are in motion.

User currently offlinemdavies06 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2009, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 11 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3603 times:

It looks like JL is quite conservative looking at the plan. No new routes aside from BOS and by using it on DME and DEL , it is a sign that the role of 787 for now is used as primary (Tokyo) to secondary cities in order to enhance the profitability of these routes. To be fair, I suspect if there has been no 787, at least one of these will be going after a few years.

The use on SIN is quite interesting - I wonder why they decide to let SIN go all 787. What is it about SIN which favours 787?


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