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Alaska Announces New Service Via Horizon Air  
User currently offlineASFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1044 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 13830 times:

Alaska has announced new service from SAN-MRY, SAN-FAT, SAN-STS AND RNO-SJC, in addition to one additional STS-LAX flight for the summer. All flights will be operated by Horizon Air on the Q400. Flights begin on 6/4 and 6/5. This copied from the internal website:

Horizon Air will expand Air Group’s network this summer with new flying on behalf of Alaska Airlines in California. Alaska is adding daily nonstop service from San Diego to Monterey and Santa Rosa, and twice-daily service to Fresno. Two daily flights between San Jose and Reno are also being added as well as a third daily summer flight between Los Angeles and Santa Rosa.

All of the new flying will be operated by Horizon on its Bombardier Q400 turboprops, starting June 4 and 5.

“This is exciting news for Horizon, and yet more proof that our business transformation is paying off,” Horizon President Glenn Johnson said. “What makes this additional service possible is the increased Q400 reliability we’ve worked so hard to achieve.”
To support the new Santa Rosa-San Diego route, Alaska will discontinue service between Santa Rosa and Las Vegas on June 3.


San Diego-Fresno flights:
Start Date City Pair Departs Arrives Frequency
June 4 San Diego-Fresno 9:15 a.m. 10:50 a.m. Daily
June 4 San Diego-Fresno 8:45 p.m. 10:20 p.m. Daily
June 4 Fresno-San Diego 7:15 a.m. 8:42 a.m. Daily
June 4 Fresno-San Diego 6:45 p.m. 8:12 p.m. Daily

San Diego-Monterey flights:
Start Date City Pair Departs Arrives Frequency
June 4 San Diego-Monterey 6:55 p.m. 8:37 p.m. Daily
June 5 Monterey-San Diego 7:30 a.m. 9:12 a.m. Daily

San Diego-Santa Rosa flights:
Start Date City Pair Departs Arrives Frequency
June 5 San Diego-Santa Rosa 9:45 a.m. 11:50 a.m. Daily
June 4 Santa Rosa-San Diego 4:25 p.m. 6:22 p.m. Daily

San Jose-Reno flights:
Start Date City Pair Departs Arrives Frequency
June 5 Reno-San Jose 6 a.m. 7:08 a.m. Daily
June 4 Reno-San Jose 2:15 p.m. 3:23 p.m. Daily
June 4 San Jose-Reno 11:55 a.m. 1 p.m. Daily
June 4 San Jose-Reno 10:20 p.m. 11:25 p.m. Daily

Summary of seasonal Santa Rosa-Los Angeles service:
Start Date City Pair Departs Arrives Frequency
June 4 Santa Rosa-Los Angeles 1:35 p.m. 3:09 p.m. Sun, Mon, Thu, Fri
June 4 Los Angeles-Santa Rosa 11:30 a.m. 1:04 p.m. Sun, Mon, Thu, Fri

All times based on local time zones

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User currently offlineatrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5686 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 13843 times:

WHERE'S SANFAN?!?!? CALLING SANFAN, YOO HOO YOU GOT SOME SERVICE!!!  

Great to see more additions from Alaska and Horizon!

Alex



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User currently onlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5221 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 13807 times:

You are kidding me!!!!!! ASFlyer, you have just MADE MY YEAR; thank you for the fantastic news!

That's what I've been talking about!

Now to go back and look at the details....

  

bb


User currently onlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5221 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 13773 times:

atrude777, I had to revive myself before I could respond.....

OMG this is wonderful!

bb

[Edited 2012-01-17 21:01:09]

[Edited 2012-01-17 21:01:34]

[Edited 2012-01-17 21:01:59]

User currently onlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5221 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 13701 times:

Since AS started sitting on 3 gates at Lindbergh a few years ago, I had a feeling future QX service might be part of the reason. Of course in the meantime, Alaska mainline has been slowly but surely expanding to where they now need all 3 gates at a few times during the day.

FAT and MRY are the most obvious needs we in SAN have been wishing for since the days of ExpressJet; both routes should do very well with the Q400 and it is fantastic to see the Alaska Group continuing to believe in and build their presence at SDIA.

STS makes sense as well and I'm sure AS/QX has thouroughly done their homework and feel the same.

Four new flights a day this summer! Thank you TAG!

bb


User currently offlineB595 From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2009, 305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 13675 times:

Quoting ASFlyer (Thread starter):
Alaska has announced new service from SAN-MRY

This is the first positive thing to come out of MRY in about three years...

ExpressJet service @ MRY - canceled
Delta service SLC-MRY - canceled
Allegiant service SAN-MRY - canceled

This is welcome news.

[Edited 2012-01-17 21:02:41]

User currently offlinesmoot4208 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1268 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 13637 times:

Hopefully these routes will do well from SAN. AS seems like they have slowly been adding flights their. I wonder if AS would ever consider adding KOA/LIH/CUN service from there?

User currently onlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5221 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 13550 times:

Quoting B595 (Reply 5):
This is the first positive thing to come out of MRY in about three years...
ExecJet service @ MRY - canceled
Delta service SLC-MRY - canceled
Allegiant service SAN-MRY - canceled
This is welcome news

Needless to say, agreed!

ExpressJet stopped flying (everywhere) in fall of 2008, offering at the time, 2x daily SAN-MRY and 3x daily SAN-FAT. Both routes did well on XE.

G4 offered 2x weekly SAN-MRY service between May 2009 and July 2010; many believed that the route needed smaller a/c and more frequent (daily) service. Voila!, enter Horizon!

And I do know that MRY wanted this service (to SAN) and I'm betting Fresno, as well as San Diego, have been working long and hard on making this possible as well!

Quoting smoot4208 (Reply 6):
I wonder if AS would ever consider adding KOA/LIH/CUN service from there?

KOA/LIH wouldn't surprise me at all from SAN -- maybe even this year. SAN-CUN - no, but maybe some other Mexico routes?...

bb


User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5830 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 13544 times:
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Hmmm!! I don't believe this for one minute unless you or someone like Hatbutton can cough up the press release from Alaska Air Group...sorry ASFlyer...sounds too good to be true.

However, if this is true, it's quite a surprise! I hope some of this service becomes year-round. Also, I hope MRY eventually gets a SEA flight. 737's back in MRY? Yeah, right.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 2):
You are kidding me!!!!!! ASFlyer, you have just MADE MY YEAR; thank you for the fantastic news!

That's what I've been talking about!

Now to go back and look at the details....

I just hope the San Diego community supports the service. Otherwise, it will gone like some of the past service from SAN. I also hope that at least some of this service is successful enough to be year-round. I don't want to hear any complaints from you anymore!


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5772 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 13549 times:

FAT-SAN? About time someone brought that back, glad it is QX. It is a route that has good potential (my wife is sitting here and is already talking about a getaway).

Looks like FAT-SAN is going to start as low as $59 one way.



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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5772 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 13531 times:

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 8):
Hmmm!! I don't believe this for one minute unless you or someone like Hatbutton can cough up the press release from Alaska Air Group...sorry ASFlyer...sounds too good to be true.

Flights are already coming up at the website.



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User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5830 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 13481 times:
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Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 10):
Flights are already coming up at the website.

Just sounded too good to be true. I wish AS/QX great luck on these routes.


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5772 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 8 hours ago) and read 13413 times:

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 11):
Just sounded too good to be true.

I agree which was why I started checking to see if they were listed. Couldn't find the PR but the flights are loaded.



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User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2887 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 8 hours ago) and read 13414 times:

So will MRY be the only contiguous US destination not served nonstop/directly with SEA and/or PDX?

User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5830 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 8 hours ago) and read 13402 times:
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Ok...I stand corrected. As FATFlyer mentioned, the flights are available in Alaskaair.com.

Quoting ASFlyer (Thread starter):
To support the new Santa Rosa-San Diego route, Alaska will discontinue service between Santa Rosa and Las Vegas on June 3.

Does the STS-LAS route come back after the summer season? Maybe both routes will exist later.


User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 2879 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 8 hours ago) and read 13403 times:

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 8):
Also, I hope MRY eventually gets a SEA flight. 737's back in MRY? Yeah, right.

I could see a Q400 doing MRY-SEA maybe. It's no longer than the FAT-SEA Q400 flight, which was tolerable especially with free beer. I'm actually surprised that QX is launching MRY from SAN, but no LAX or SEA.

Was STS-LAS not doing well? I think that route originally started as a late evening route from STS utilizing a Q400 that was RON, rather than sitting at STS for those late evening hours.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 7):
SAN-CUN - no, but maybe some other Mexico routes?...

AS seems to have given up on CUN. I could maybe see SAN-GDL and SAN-MEX.

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 13):
So will MRY be the only contiguous US destination not served nonstop/directly with SEA and/or PDX?

MMH also.


User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2887 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 8 hours ago) and read 13361 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 15):
I'm actually surprised that QX is launching MRY from SAN, but no LAX or SEA.

They are still code sharing with AA Eagle LAXMRY


User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5830 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 8 hours ago) and read 13288 times:
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Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 15):
I'm actually surprised that QX is launching MRY from SAN, but no LAX or SEA.

Same here. The only rationale I can think of is filling the void left by G4's brief service. But we'll see what happens. I still hope MRY is successful as STS and obtains more service, namely LAX, PDX and SEA. I understand that STS has far different demographics, but MRY has potential.

Who will be handling QX at MRY?

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 15):
MMH also.

MMH has direct one-stop service to PDX via SJC.


User currently offlineSANMAN66 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 758 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 8 hours ago) and read 13132 times:
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Quoting ASFlyer (Thread starter):
SAN-STS

Does the Q400 has the range to make it from SAN to STS?



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User currently offlinemikesairways From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 671 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 7 hours ago) and read 13077 times:
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Quoting ASFlyer (Thread starter):
RNO-SJC

I had a feeling about this one with WN dropping the route this spring. Good to see another flight for them out of SJC. Now they have another gate, lots of room for more expansion.



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13254 posts, RR: 62
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 7 hours ago) and read 13024 times:
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Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 15):
AS seems to have given up on CUN.

It's a hard market to make work from the west coast.  



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User currently offlineASFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1044 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 months 7 hours ago) and read 13023 times:

Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 18):
Does the Q400 has the range to make it from SAN to STS?

It flies SEA-STS daily amongst other routes that are longer than SAN-STS.


User currently offlinehatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1477 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 months 7 hours ago) and read 12873 times:
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Looks like the SAN experiment has finally begun. I hope these routes do well as I'd love to see us build up SAN.

Stay tuned for more fun surprises soon  


User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 2879 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 12835 times:

Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 21):
Quoting SANMAN66 (Reply 18):
Does the Q400 has the range to make it from SAN to STS?

It flies SEA-STS daily amongst other routes that are longer than SAN-STS.

They do SEA-FAT; and surprisingly I saw SEA-OAK on a Q400 last time I was at SEA. I'd do QX on SEA-SJC just for the novelty (and free beer) if they ever did that.

SAN-STS really isn't that far, maybe 500 miles at the most. Not even close to the range of a Q400, or its existing routes.

Quoting mikesairways (Reply 19):
Good to see another flight for them out of SJC.

I'm not surprised at SJC-RNO either with WN dropping it, but would rather have seen TVL. Yeah, let's hope for more from SJC: PVR, MEX. ORD, TUS, SNA, DCA, BOS, MIA, AUS (again). YVR and ANC seasonally probably wouldn't work from SJC as much as I'd like to see it. RDU might work, but I'd expect they'd do SEA-RDU first.


User currently offlinegmcc From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 12811 times:

Quoting hatbutton (Reply 22):

Stay tuned for more fun surprises soon

Not fair to tease us like that.    I bet there will be some announcements on Jan 26 on the year end earnings call.


25 SANFan : Absolutely, not fair.... We know there are at least 3 new mainline a/c coming later this year -- I'm pretty sure the three 738s coming in the first h
26 Post contains images fat-g4 : Good news for FAT. I go to San Diego to often and now i dont have to drive! and the fishermans landing is right next to the airport
27 SANFan : Assuming by your screenname that you might be associated with Allegiant in Fresno (?), some of us have been waiting for a couple of years for G4 to g
28 united319 : Do we know if this will be operated from the Commuter Terminal or AS's Operation in Terminal 1?
29 olddominion727 : Someone at AS really is really hot with the new routes regionally and across the country. SANFAT & MRY haven't been flown nonstop since PSA. QX ca
30 FATFlyer : ExpressJet operated both of those nonstop just 3 or 4 years ago. ExpressJet increased frequency on FAT-SAN from 2X daily to 3X during the year it ope
31 Post contains images SANFan : Good question. I assume T1W (with mainline) but I do not know for sure. Speaking of what terminal the new flights will use, I discovered something in
32 SANMAN66 : I was wondering the same thing. To me, I'm thinking it would be the Commuter Terminal, because the destinations FAT,MRY,and STS are QX destiantions,a
33 RoseFlyer : It looks like AS/QX is going after traffic and markets that used to be the domain of Skywest's E120s which they marketed under UA. With Skywest wantin
34 SANMAN66 : Hey "B", you posted right after I did. I didn't think about the connecting possibilities. That would make it pretty interesting if that is the intent
35 mikesairways : SMF goes away in either March of April. I think the "BOI" triangle is now through LAX. (BOI-SJC-LAX-BOI; LAX-SJC-BOI-LAX) Pleaes correct me if i'm wr
36 SANMAN66 : FAT has Aeromexico and Volaris going nonstop to Mexico, so I doubt AS would market Mexico from FAT with a connection in SAN, hence the four hour layo
37 wedgetail737 : When does AS make the big move from T3 to T6 at LAX? Is there room there for additional service? I hope this is another AS-attempt at intra-CA service
38 FATFlyer : The FAT schedule seems to be driven as much by aircraft as anything. Looks like the schedule is set up for FAT-SAN-FAT then the aircraft operates FAT
39 Tomassjc : BOI-SJC just once a day...and will operate BOI-SJC-LAX and v.v. Tomas SJC
40 Post contains links gmcc : According to the latest program updates (see link below) early April 2012. LAWA is hoping to use the time after the move to reconstruct parts of the
41 redrooster3 : Fantastic News for people here at SAN. AS must be making SAN a focus city because every time I turn my head around, their opening a new route!
42 BoeingGuy : I don't think QX was doing SJC-SMF to carry traffic in that market. I assume it was just to serve SMF-BOI by adding the triangle with SJC. It's about
43 SANFan : Hi L. Exciting, isn't it? AFAIK, the CT is still supposed to be mainly for flights to LAX. Ux does run the MMH flight out of the CT, and a COEXP flig
44 Post contains images threeifbyair : Looking forward to it - I might suggest PHL, PIT, BWI, or IND as options but I'm not that picky - love to see new AS service, whether or not it is ex
45 Post contains images venom831 : Just came here to post about my home airport. Talked with airport officials, and it is 100% confirmed that they will start the new MRY-SAN, SAN-MRY se
46 SANMAN66 : It sure is! Before posting the 2nd time, I was thinking they would use the CT like ExpressJet did, however, It does makes more sense to operate the Q
47 wedgetail737 : That route took on connection traffic, especially from LAX (believe it or not). I've flown the route a couple of times. There is some local traffic o
48 LAXintl : Yes they can expand, however AS/QX has shrunk by some 20-25% in enplaments at LAX in last few years. I'm not sure where LAX sits in the broader netwo
49 UAL747DEN : You must also look at what XE had to do to fill their planes though too. Not only were the tickets dirt cheap but they spent a huge amount of cash on
50 BoeingGuy : So did Air California fly several 732s a day SJC-SMF. PSA did several 727s (and an L1011 very briefly) on SFO-SMF.
51 BoeingGuy : Yeah, I've kind of been thinking that too. Seems like it's been awhile since AS has announced a new earth shattering route (no offense to MCI but it
52 ghifty : Great fare for a weekend getaway. If the other routes, especially STS, are that cheap.. I know exactly what I'm getting my parents for their 20th ann
53 smoot4208 : SJC-PVR and PDX-LIH seem like the most likely candidates.
54 SANFan : Hey 'Guy, interesting list but a bit weighted toward, oh, I don't know, PDX, SEA and SJC. Given this thread's topic, and some of the posts, thoughts,
55 BoeingGuy : Well yeah, of course. I live near SEA (guess who my employer is....) and hail from SJC so naturally I'm biased. That and the fact that AS has hubs in
56 SonomaFlyer : I'm happy to see AS adding SAN to our options out of STS but totally bummed they are taking away LAS to support it! The LAS flight was packed every ti
57 wedgetail737 : Keep in mind that the STS-SAN service is seasonal for the summer. I'm hoping the STS-LAS flights come back.
58 Post contains images Coronado990 : Thanks Horizon! It's about time you show some love on the SAN-intrastate flights. And this bone got some fat on it! I'm looking forward to some servic
59 mikesairways : I wonder if AS is keeping an eye on a little airline nursing quietly in the background based out of Carlsbad?
60 wedgetail737 : Hmm. I don't know. California Pacific Airways is flying to different destinations than AS/QX.
61 Post contains images SANMAN66 : Hmmm, possibly to send a smiling eskimo there for some competition? It would be great if QX sent one of their Q400's to CLD. Nice plane for the job![
62 smitty747 : Does anybody think in the future that Horizon/Alaska could take on the big behemoth (WN) on the SAN-SMF route? I've always wondered why Southwest has
63 SANFan : D, where was it mentioned about seasonality of any of the SAN flights? I asked about that in my post #27 and maybe I missed it but I've seen no confi
64 Post contains images BoeingGuy : I'll believe they are real when they start service. I reminds me of the Bellevue Brewing Company. First he's going to open last year; then April; the
65 wedgetail737 : Did I mis-interpret what ASFlyer originally said? Is the 3rd STS nonstop flight the only summer addition? If the others are year-round...that's even
66 intsim : That is what I was wondering but I could not remember their name, thank you. It may be different destinations but isn't AS/QX very interested in sell
67 wedgetail737 : Have all of the Lynx Q400's been in service with other airlines? Too bad AS/QX won't pick those airplanes up for additional service. Afterall, Alaska
68 B595 : Some people here have MRY-SEA or MRY-PDX on their wish list. So here's a question: If one of the above came to fruition, would it be the first ever ro
69 hatbutton : I don't know if we will expand much more out of ANC. We are already taking ANC-ORD back to just once daily year round. I believe we added a second on
70 BoeingGuy : I think you're right. There has been MRY-DEN as you indicate; UA did MRY-ORD for a very short time; Air California and PSA did MRY-SFO and to LAX and
71 hatbutton : Haha whoops. I think I was thinking about ANC-ORD still when I typed that. Yes, PHL-ANC.
72 LV : I have to admit I always scratched my head about the STS-LAS route... never really saw it as a market that needed at daily Q400. But with this route
73 Post contains links mikesairways : Apparently there is more to come: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Alaska...creases-prnews-3536454498.html?x=0 Starting service PDX-SBA as well as other
74 Tomassjc : QX did operate one ex Lynx Q400, N510LX, on loan from Bombardier, for awhile. It was an operational nightmare. 2 seats less and a different galley, l
75 SANFan : Yeah, I just saw these new routes listed on the OAG thread. I still wonder where all this Q availability is coming from? (Tightening up the schedule
76 wedgetail737 : MRY's airport is far enough away from SJC that I don't think it'll take a whole lot away. I think MRY is an experiment to see how much demand is ther
77 hatbutton : Well first it's important to note that the Q400 fleet isn't running at full strength if I remember correctly because of the teething problems they've
78 SANFan : Hat', can you clarify once and for all about the SAN routes - seasonal or not? I know that a lot of the other routes have been announced as summer-on
79 hatbutton : The only route that has been announced in CA that is seasonal is the 3rd daily LAX-STS. That will drop back to 2x daily in the winter. So SAN-MRY, SA
80 ASFlyer : The only seasonal route in the first announcement was the additional STS-LAX. The rest were year round.
81 SANFan : Thank you guys. Year-'round was my interpretation and hope but I think many of us needed clarification. As I said earlier in the thread, there is abs
82 san747 : Great news for San Diego and I'm glad to see intra-CA flying making a comeback in general!
83 RWA380 : You know you're killing me here, So SAN is something planned as an experiment? Well hats off to everyone in the know, for keeping the secret so well.
84 Post contains images SANFan : Interesting, no? Believe me, '380, you're not the only one waiting for the next announcement! bb
85 Post contains images EA CO AS : The earnings call is fast approaching....just sayin'....
86 SANFan : Hmmmmm, they have been known to use the occasion to embellish the AS route map here and there haven't they...? bb
87 B595 : I'm not sure the number of Monterey-area residents that fly out of SJC/SFO would greatly change. I don't have rigorous stats to support this, but I c
88 SANFan : I have relatives in Monterey and Carmel and I know they will be thrilled with another option out of the MRY airport. They make the drive up to SJC no
89 yeelep : Doesn't the HGS equipped Q400's that Horizon flies allow lower minimums?
90 kgaiflyer : I've flown MRY-SAN a couple of times. But in order to make the trip on either AE or UAX you have to make an annoying plane-change at LAX. Actually, N
91 Tomassjc : I think that would be a logistical nightmare fro staffing at AS. Tom SJC
92 SANFan : Absolutely. I think a lot of people don't realize the military connections between the 2 cities; I've mentioned that in the past when this discussion
93 kgaiflyer : I know CO docks their Q400s at (mainline) Concourse C and they use the jetbridges there, but I understand that's because the Expressjet gates in Conc
94 Post contains images B595 : You're right, the HGS could give Horizon an advantage. How much is not clear, because I think the gains in landing minimums are airport-dependent. In
95 SANFan : Sorry, 'flyer, but I'm not sure what airport you're referring to here. Yes, the CUTE counters/gates are actually out of T2E, including the FIS gates,
96 kgaiflyer : In fact, QX and UAX have a similar arrangement at YYC ( you go down a hallway off to the side, after Security -- then turn -- then another hallway --
97 Post contains images kgaiflyer : Oh! Sorry about that. That would be EWR.
98 SANFan : The Big Red Barn... Oh that stretch of 101 is a killer (literally, in fact, all too often...) With QX scheduling their only flight into that airport
99 wedgetail737 : Not much has been said about the new SJC-RNO service. The timed flights seem good for connections to Hawaii and Mexico, although some of the connectio
100 aa61hvy : The STS-LAS axing really shocked me. I flew it 4 times and both to and from the flights were always full.
101 SANFan : Hey D, did you discover yet that one of those r/t SJ-RENO also serves PDX? Flt 2185 op's PDX-SJC-RNO and turns to flt 2184 that does the reverse back
102 FATFlyer : It will be interesting to see how military connected traffic shows up on SAN-FAT. NAS Lemoore is only about a 45 min to 1 hour drive from FAT. NAS Le
103 wedgetail737 : That would make sense especially when you're talking about ship deployments and returns. Does it go for the same on the FAT-SEA route? Alaska could d
104 sxf24 : It is much to early to start aggressively advertising the flights. Perhaps 3-4 months before they start.
105 wedgetail737 : That could be. My point is that they should use Social Networking to their advantage to announce new service just like they are using it to announce
106 Post contains links FATFlyer : NAS Lemoore is also a large training base, with lots of transient personnel. Likely it will also end up the west coast home for the F-35s. I don't kn
107 redrooster3 : Im already seeing Advertisements on Youtube/FlightAware
108 wedgetail737 : I've been doing internet searches and noticed quite a few articles on line.
109 cschleic : Way back when, there was talk from UA of a MRY - PDX - SEA route, but it never happened. UA did operate non-stops MRY to DEN and ORD with 727's. Air
110 Tomassjc : The flights are timed to connect in SAN with the SJD and PVR flights, both of which leave around 10am. Return flights from PVR and SJD arrive in SAN
111 wedgetail737 : I think it also connects with the SAN-HNL flight. I'm hoping SAN gets AS service to KOA and/or LIH in the near future. Hmmm...I wonder if AS would eve
112 Post contains images HiFlyerAS : Mmm...that's a lot of free micobrew or wine!
113 cschleic : I wondered about that. But with large Hispanic populations around the Monterey/Salinas area, perhaps AS will get that traffic, too. Their Mexico flig
114 Tomassjc : Yes indeed, especially with PVR. It provides a good gateway for the states of Jalisco, Nayarit, as well as coastal Colima and Michoacan. It's not sur
115 RWA380 : I have spent 4 1/2 hours on a Dash-8 flying from YEG to YVR on Air BC, with 4 stops in between, not as much fun as you'd think, I sure thought it wou
116 wedgetail737 : A friend of mine is fly LAX-SEA via STS next week...that's 4 hours on a Q400. I have a few 2-hour+ flights on Q400's in the near future. If this is t
117 cschleic : Actually, you can go all the way from La Paz, Mexico to Edmonton on QX Q400's....via LAX, STS, PDX and SEA, or leave out the PDX stop. True, not the s
118 redrooster3 : I can see QX starting new routes down to Mexico from SAN using the Q400's, Possible routes: La Paz, Mazatlan. All little fishing villages and are grea
119 Alasizon : Great destination, yes. Great traffic and yield generator, not so much.
120 SANFan : In addition to the connecting options to be offered thru SAN (as I and others have mentioned in this thread), yes, the SAN-MRY-SAN r.t. is a natural
121 SANFan : Hey red', I wouldn't exactly call MZT a little fishing village, but a potential destination from SAN, definitely! I know there used to be a lot of Sa
122 Post contains links and images SANMAN66 : I remember AeroCalifornia flew SAN-MZT in the early 1990s with their ancient DC-9s View Large View MediumPhoto © Frank C. Duarte Jr.
123 wedgetail737 : One thing AS should do with respect to their SAN - Hawaii ops. They need to time their SAN-OGG flights to better connect with MRY and FAT.
124 SANFan : Hey L, absolutely. I'd forgotten that MZT was one of their routes from Lindbergh. I'm also about 96% sure that AM flew it at one time, during their v
125 SANMAN66 : AM probably flew it right after AeroCalifornia pulled out. Didn't F9 also try a SAN-CUN route around that time? But If I can recall, SAN-CUN didn't d
126 SANFan : Yes, but they actually op'd the CUN-route (Saturday-only from Dec 2006 thru summer of 2007.) I don't think CUN had a chance (from SAN) and MZT needed
127 RWA380 : Didn't AS/QX take a stab at AZ flights from LAX on Dash 8's, and didn't that not work so well for them? Granted it was from LAX and not SAN, but real
128 wedgetail737 : Yes...QX tried 2X daily LAX-PRC-FLG. But SAN-TUS is a proven run that goes back decades. We are talking about two communities of similar size.
129 Alasizon : It was a triangle routing to Prescott and FLG.
130 RWA380 : I agree, SAN-TUS may very well work, AS has a facility in TUS, I was more referencing the IPL & YUM stops that were being discussed, does no othe
131 Post contains images SANFan : In the conference call the other day, it was mentioned that they have 2 options for Q400s (+ 2 for some model 737) that they can still excercise... I
132 RWA380 : I bet you can, it must be exciting for you Bob, to see SAN going AS like this. I hope they do take the options on the Q400's I think they will need t
133 Alasizon : They aren't as thin as often suggested. There is a fair amount of slack at PDX sometimes (summer, not so much). But as I recall based on an analysis
134 Post contains images SANFan : Interesting. Thanks for that info Alas'. While just doing my SAN-QX 6/04 turn sked, I noticed some healthy ground time in PDX (between flts 2468 and
135 Post contains images SANMAN66 : As far as IPL is concerned, I remember (not too long ago), when SkyWest (UAX) had an LAX-SAN-IPL flight. I'm not sure if they even fly to IPL anymore,
136 RWA380 : Yup, PSA was HQ'd in SAN, I forgot that. As AS is as close as I'll get to a hometown airline here in PDX, I'm always worried when I see AS ramping up
137 bjorn14 : Yes, this shocks me a little bit too. Maybe OO can pick it up doing at-risk.
138 SANFan : If you read Alasizon's reply 133, he talks about slack still in the Q400 schedules. Therefore, if STS-LAS is truly profitable for AS, I would expect
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