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Rediscover Paradise - Caribbean Aviation Thread 94  
User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1429 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 16643 times:

Warm Caribbean Greetings to all!

Welcome to the 94th instalment of the Caribbean Aviation Thread, also the first Caribbean Thread of the new year.This instalment is dedicated to resilient island of Montserrat, from which our newest regular contributer (817Dreamliner) originates.



Montserrat was sighted by Christopher Columbus during his second voyage in November 1493. He named it Santa Maria de Montserrate after the Abbey of Montserrate near Barcelona. In 1632, the island became a British colony although the first settlers were largely Irish. More Irish settlers followed, driven out of Virginia in an anti-Catholic purge.



Montserrat is an internally self-governing UK overseas territory. Government is executed through a governor appointed by the British monarch, an executive council, which has the general control and direction of government, and a legislative council. The governor retains responsibility for external affairs, defence, internal security, the public service (as head of the civil service) and offshore finance.

The executive council is presided over by the governor and also includes the chief minister, the financial secretary, the attorney-general and three other ministers. The legislative council has nine directly elected members and two official members. Elections are held at least every five years.

In 1989, the constitution, formerly comprising various bills and acts, was consolidated into one document and came into force on 13 February 1990. (www.thecommonwealth.org)



In the 1980s, the main economic activities were agriculture and tourism (especially luxury villa holidays) and light engineering. Hurricane Hugo destroyed 90% of infrastructure in September 1989, severely damaging the tourism and agriculture sectors.

Montserrat once again suffered another major setback when volcanic activity began in 1995. Montserrat’s economy and infrastructure have been rebuilt and continues reconstruction in the 2000s, including a new airport (John A. Osborne Airport opened in 2005) and ferry port.



FlyMontserrat Airways was began operations in 2009 with service to ANU. In April of 2011, FlyMontserrat carried it's 10 000th passenger. The airline currently operates a fleet of three Britten Norman BN-2A Islanders.




******NEWS FEED******
Topic Air of Belize to start BZE-LCE 2x weekly starting March 4.
AC commences service to SKB with A319 from YYZ 1x weekly.
CAL looking at flights to DEL with extensive AI partnership.
UVF experiences fuel shortage causing some flights to divert to BGI
CAL to begin daily POS-BGI-SLU service on Jan. 24 with ATR.
AC looking at nonstop flight with A319 from YYZ to GEO.
SY to begin daily PBM-GEO-MIA with B733 in April.
EZjet of Guyana commences services with B762 from JFK to GEO.
Fly Jamacia poised to commence service from JFK and YYZ to KIN and GEO with N-registered B752.
CAL to wet-lease Atlas Air 744 "Soca Jumbo Jet" for Carnival season. To operate POS-JFK as BW 500/501
CUR unfortunately downgraded to CAT 2 rating by US authorities.
Redjet rumoured to be experiencing financial difficulties, blames BGI authorities for its woes.
Redjet drastically reduces frequencies on is POS,GEO and KIN routes.
Two wet-leased Swiftair ATR-72-500s operating for BW return to MAD.
CM to begin PTY-CUR service 4x weekly (3x E190 and 1X 73G) on June 10.
DE to commence 1x weekly VIE-VRA service with B763W Nov. 6.


Happy Posting!




It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
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User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 16656 times:

O wow! Im kinda shocked you dedicated the the thread to Montserrat  Wow!, wasnt expecting it at all   , Great getting the first thread of the year up! I have to say, its been an honor posting here in this thread 

[Edited 2012-01-18 13:02:54]


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User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 604 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 16610 times:

my dream is to visit montserrat this year!



I'm so glad CM is starting CUR, I could see that comin' 


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6091 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 16578 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 2):
I'm so glad CM is starting CUR, I could see that comin' 

And by the service days, CM clearly see this as a business route as well. Not just leisure.

Guess they are testing out a schedule for when they announce BZE 



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 16568 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 2):
my dream is to visit montserrat this year!


I encourage you to go! Im sure you will enjoy it, congrats on your 100th post btw



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User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 16549 times:

Quoting BW424 reply=0][/quote]

Thanks for getting the new thread up and running.

[quote=andrefranca
(Reply 2):
my dream is to visit montserrat this year!

I would like to take a trip there too.

St. Lucia and Dominica to invest in LIAT
They are finally putting their money where their mouth is where LI is concerned.
http://www.caricomnewsnetwork.com/in...n-liat&catid=38:tourism&Itemid=396



All ah we is one family
User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6091 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 16542 times:

without prejudice to my friends in the e. caribbean......so two Belize resorts make the top three in the world! and 11 in the top 25 in Central America.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/TravelersChoice-Hotels-cTop25-g1



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 16485 times:

Six days to CAL beginning SLU from BGI looking forward to seeing the ATR I am wondering would it not have made more sense to schedule the 767 arrival to coincide with the Carnival season?

User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 16443 times:

Quoting baje427 (Reply 7):
Six days to CAL beginning SLU from BGI looking forward to seeing the ATR I am wondering would it not have made more sense to schedule the 767 arrival to coincide with the Carnival season?

Six days away and flights not yet bookable on their site? Something not right here.



You are said to be a good pilot when your take-off's equal your landings.
User currently offlinebeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1751 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 16344 times:

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 5):
St. Lucia and Dominica to invest in LIAT
They are finally putting their money where their mouth is where LI is concerned.
http://www.caricomnewsnetwork.com/in...n-liat&catid=38:tourism&Itemid=396

Would LIAT ever allow private investors.


User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 16310 times:

This pic made me remember, I never saw BA when I was in ANU on the 5th, heading back here to MAN, from the pic I can now see why:

Quote:
Emergency landing!! "Speedbird 17PA" a flight from London Gatwick (EGKK) to St. John's - V.C. Bird Int. (TAPA) in Antigua and Barbuda, had to divert to Lajes due to 23 years old, USA citizen passenger who was under the influence of alcohol and/or other drugs and was acting with violence onboard this aircraft.

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Photo © Leandro Rocha - AzoresAirPhotos




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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9769 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (2 years 7 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 16252 times:

Thanks for starting the thread BW424, too bad you didn't mention the good things happening at the airport in CUR:

The airport operator has started work on the foundations to build two more passenger loading bridges to cope with increasing traffic. When this is completed our airport will have increased the passenger loading bridge capacity from 3 to 5 bridges. Local airlines Insel Air and Dutch Antilles keep expanding which results in increased peak hours at the airport and the necessity for more bridges to handle all flights. Last year two brandnew airport busses were put into service to handle the commuture flights and other flights handled at remote parking positions.

It is good CM will finally start flying to Curacao. Now I'm waiting on Caribbean Airlines and Air Jamaica!!!

A388


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6091 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 7 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 16243 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 11):
Now I'm waiting on Caribbean Airlines and Air Jamaica!!!

Methinks you won't get both 



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 7 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 16208 times:

Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 9):
Would LIAT ever allow private investors.

Contrary to popular belief, about 10% or so of LIAT is actually already owned by other regional governments and private entities. See the entire list at: http://www.liatairline.com/navSource.html?page_id=80



You are said to be a good pilot when your take-off's equal your landings.
User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2602 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 7 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 16193 times:

Good for Kòrsao and CM.
Hope BZE, GCM, SCU, BGI, GEO and PBM make it into CM network soon. Some sooner than others..
Given CM @ NAS performance and GCM rumours, could PTY-BDA twice weekly work?



I'm not on CM's payroll.
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9769 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (2 years 7 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 16189 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 12):
Methinks you won't get both

If they do a POS-CUR-KIN routing than we will not get both no. If they operate separately, we will. On the other hand Caribbean Airlines and Air Jamaica have switched 737 equipment regularly so who knows. Like Forest Gump said: "Life is like a box of chocolades, you never know what you're gonna get"... 

A388


User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 604 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 7 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 16168 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 11):
Now I'm waiting on Caribbean Airlines and Air Jamaica!!!

IMHO POS-CUR is more likely... but not this year!

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 14):
could PTY-BDA twice weekly work?

There are a few problems with BDA, it's a much expensiver islands, even more than Bahamas or Grand cayman, they don't have cars to rent which make things hard when you want some freedom to get around! BDA would be a "deluxe" destination, I think it would be too risky to CM !


User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2602 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 7 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 16155 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 16):
There are a few problems with BDA, it's a much expensiver islands, even more than Bahamas or Grand cayman, they don't have cars to rent which make things hard when you want some freedom to get around! BDA would be a "deluxe" destination, I think it would be too risky to CM !

I was talking more of the need - if any - ot the travellers between BDA and Latinamerica/Caribbean to avoid connecting in the U.S. Something like PTY-BDA evenings and BDA-PTY mornings so to offer immediate connections to/from specially POS/KIN/MBJ..
Also ff BDA is big on off-shore banking and off-shore companies, then there might be a small demand for a link between BDA and PTY.
Not to forget, that since BDA is so expensive, with a PTY flight, Bermudians could come to PTY to do shopping.



I'm not on CM's payroll.
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9769 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (2 years 7 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 16135 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 16):
IMHO POS-CUR is more likely... but not this year!

I actually see KIN-CUR happening before POS-CUR. Hopefully this year...

A388


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1358 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (2 years 7 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 16083 times:

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 5):

Yes, I did forget that there was a change of govt in SLU. LIAT hating Chastanet isnt there anymore.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 6):

As a Caribbean South America we consider you to be a Caribbean Central American. As soon as a Belizean opens his mouth that creole dialect marks you as being one of us...not one of them....ElSalvador, Guatemala, etc. And ditto with that punta rock.


User currently offlineb757lvr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 7 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 15961 times:

St.Lucia's new Minister of Tourism has indicated that he has serious doubts about the benefit of the the subsidy agreement between American Airlines and the government. He is quoted in the following article expressing his concerns about the benefit of the agreement given AA's downsizing of the SJU hub. This is not the first time this subsidy issue has come up and I think AA has dropped some destinations including UVF in the past because an agreement could not be reached. What do you guys think about this?

http://stluciastar.com/content/news/...nes-st-lucia-deal-cannot-continue/


User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 7 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 15938 times:

Quoting b757lvr (Reply 20):

Its a very good discussion and its a pity that there is never a properly done case study on the subsidies the countries give to foreign Carriers and what is the entire cost benefit.
In the case of AA, they have indeed reduced SJU significantly in favor of building MIA, and as a result of that they dropped or reduced a number of flights to the islands from SJU.

I believe in 1999 AA dropped ANU, UVF and GND because they all decided not to give subsidies to the airline, and of course they are now doing so once again. If the SJU-SLU flights are of low loads then stop providing finances for the flights.

I am against direct subsidies to foreign carriers.



All ah we is one family
User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 7 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 15921 times:

Quoting b757lvr (Reply 20):

In this case, it seems that a rational discussion is taking place and I think the Government of St. Lucia is correct, especially given AA continued commitment to its "Corner Stone Strategy" which excludes the SJU. The money going to the SJU subsidy could be diverted to new markets or even add new airlift. However this issue is not a new one as the current government always had a problem with Chastanet and his handling of the tourism industry particularly the case of airlift.

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 21):

I think it is a mistake to make a general statement that a proper case study is not done when it comes to foreign airlift. One must remember how politicians have a way of mucking things up (I am pretty sure we could generate a 300+ thread dedicated on such a topic). In the case of St. Lucia this has been an on going issue. Please see the following link http://www.voteslp.com/node/630


Regards
BWIA 772



Eagles Soar!
User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 7 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 15904 times:

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 22):

That entire article would have been funny if it was not so serious, but they also have to take into account Eagle's SLU-BGI flights that last two months and was costing the people of St Lucia lots of money with flights leaving empty.

The WS situation was what got me, that no one knew how much the subsidies was going to cost and after 4 months a bill of US$3m with high loads?

We all know Chastanet and as this:


Quoting guyanam (Reply 19):
Yes, I did forget that there was a change of govt in SLU. LIAT hating Chastanet isnt there anymore.

How can we forget EC Express and the cost it bore to JM by having its base in SLU, competing with LI. We can also never forget how he was in a fight with the PM of another country, something that I cannot recall has ever seen: a minister of cabinet fight with a PM of another country.
Hopefully now the Government takes a critical look at all of this.



All ah we is one family
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9769 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (2 years 7 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 15818 times:

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 23):
The WS situation was what got me, that no one knew how much the subsidies was going to cost and after 4 months a bill of US$3m with high loads?

How come the bill was so high while the loads were high too? Do you have links to this story?

A388

[Edited 2012-01-20 05:29:54]

25 guyanam : Chastanet signed a note without reading it and WS went laughing to the bank. Silly Third Worl People they probably said. I think Mrs Chastanet liked
26 andrefranca : if we put that way ... maybe. I flew CUR-MBJ in 2009 with the old JM, it was VERY cheap, 100 usd one way... but with CAL's Board, I don't really know
27 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Press Release – FAA Announces Safety Ratings for Curaçao, Sint Maarten http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=13313 whats goi
28 A388 : That indeed is very unfortunate. In the case of CUR (and I think SXM too), we have become a constituent country of the Kingdom of the Netherlands in
29 Post contains images andrefranca : Sad news indeed! could this be a kind of "lost of trust?" and what about Bonaire? ik weet niet, jammer!
30 A388 : I'm not following you on this(?) A388
31 trintocan : Bonaire is now fully part of The Netherlands and would be under the Dutch administrators for civil aviation. One wonders though, since Curacao and St
32 Post contains links A388 : The Netherlands is helping Curacao and St. Maarten to get back to category 1. Below article mentions this but it is in Dutch: http://www.rnw.nl/carib
33 817Dreamliiner : Good that they are getting help from the Netherlands, lets hope they get their CAT 1 rating as soon as possible.
34 andrefranca : I meant it is strange, cause "just" because now they have more freedom (or are supposed to) the FAA goes there and downgrade them.... if they didn't
35 Post contains links baje427 : Does anyone know why Jordan Aviation A310's have become regulars at BGI a nice change from the usual but I'm curious what they are doing. In addition,
36 A388 : This is normal practice for the FAA when a new country rises of which the local airlines fly to U.S. territory. This has nothing to do with the local
37 windian425 : We should be seeing Jordan Aviation A310 quite a bit in the coming weeks. Westjet had and aircraft AOG yesterday. No schedule change until Summer 2012
38 andrefranca : Are they new countries or just received an "upgrade" from mother Nederland?
39 trintocan : To drift slightly from aviation to describe what happened here - in the past The Netherlands Antilles was an entity in free association with The Neth
40 A388 : There you have your answer andrefranca. You kind of answered this question too. As soon as a new "country" rises, in this case Curacao and St. Maarte
41 817Dreamliiner : Ok, I get this situation, but what about BGI?
42 Post contains links BWIA 772 : LI started the service from March 9 2009, and yes it had to be unprofitable for LI to cut it. http://www.zingmag.net/index.php/ZiN...We-want-to-fly-y
43 trintocan : Thanks BWIA772 but what I meant is that it appears that LI is serving CIW (oops, wrong code in the earlier post) again, just a few months after pulli
44 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : Yes the CIW was very unprofitable at the time it was cut back in July 2011 I believe. It was restarted on December 15. I think it was restarted when
45 8b775zq : Maybe you should do a little more research before you say anything. AE has not stop flying to NEV but has reduced flights to seasonal status Cape Air
46 guyanam : With due respect to Cbn govts BWIA was not able to generate tourism inflows that carriers like AA could. Subsidizing them would have been a waste of
47 GUYAIR707 : Flew BW424 operated by 9Y-KIN GEO-JFK yesterday. Flight rolled like clockwork, at 2:50 PM our scheduled ETD we began rollback at GEO. Flight was full
48 guyanam : What were the loads ex GEO and how many do you think got off at POS?
49 baje427 : Does anyone know how CAL GEO-BGI is doing?
50 8b775zq : While I understand what you're saying it is wise to take news coming out of SKB/NEV with a bit of skepticism as most info is politically biased. Rega
51 GUYAIR707 : There were about 100 pax between GEO and POS and about 40 got off in POS. Then the a/c was filled from POS to JFK. GUYAIR707
52 guyanam : AE no longer operates to NEV.
53 Post contains links OA260 : Just some quick questions. Are there plans to renovate BGI Terminal ? Some things seemed to be in a run down state there . Also the air field opposite
54 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : CARIBBEAN AIRLINES TO BEGIN FLYING TO ST. LUCIA ON 10 FEBRUARY 2012 Piarco, 19 January 2012 – Caribbean Airlines is happy to announce the start of n
55 baje427 : The economy in BGI is in a bad state right now its not only the airport that's run down but the general infrastructure of the country. Nice trip repo
56 8b775zq : Anyone knows if there has been an equipment change on the AA JFK-SKB route? Was watching the flight arrive yesterday and realised it was operated by a
57 BWIA 772 : I think this is my first post in a while and for the new year so Happy New Year to the forum and best wishes to all its members. I have to disagree wi
58 LimaFoxTango : I don't know about the rest of Barbados, but certainly I would never say the airport is "run down".
59 OA260 : Thanks for the reply here and on the TR . I mentioned some other things there also. I guess not seeing it for a number of years and then now made me
60 baje427 : If you notice a lot of the roads are in need of desperate repair, (repairs are now limited too caution tape and barrels) some sections of the highway
61 yellowtail : I see CM has upgraded its KIN flight from an E190 to a 73G. Things looking up! Have you heard the creole in Honduras? Sounds like St. Vincent!
62 BWIA 772 : I have done my fair share of driving since I got back and yes they are some roads that are in desperate need of repair but I still do not think that
63 baje427 : I guess stating the infrastructure in BGI is in a state was a bit much I believe RD has plans to start PTY as well so maybe the link will come but no
64 Beeski : 1) BGI's terminal is fine IMO.....more modern than most airports in the region. 2) the air field opposite the cruise ship port in San Juan is Isle Gr
65 turk223 : In a general sense, I was surprised to read that someone thinks our airport is "run down". A bit harsh... The economy in B'dos is struggling, but I d
66 windian425 : Nice trip report but can you elaborate on the above statement about the FIDS? Your feedback is welcome.
67 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : saw this posted on the CAL facebook page: Now im confused, how is this a violation of privacy and abuse . I fail to see the point of this persons post
68 andrefranca : I totally see his point, imagine you have some serious work to do on your pc or ipad, and you try to focus and there's always something blen blen ble
69 817Dreamliiner : well, not unless CAL upped the volume on the IFE, I never had a problem with it. In fact I hardly heard it on my last flight with them, the engines w
70 GUYAIR707 : Yeah I agree with you, this person is a little sensitive. CAL usually has the sound on for short hops on longer legs they use headsets. With such sho
71 Post contains links BWIA 772 : Do any of you guys know about this issue about the dispatch reliability of the ATR fleet. http://newsday.co.tt/business/0,154587.html Regards BWIA 772
72 817Dreamliiner : Interesting... This is the first time I'm hearing about this
73 LimaFoxTango : New aircraft teething problems perhaps? What about aircraft number 3? When is that being delivered?
74 caribbean484 : Not sure since we will not know the number, but I did hear of some teething problems, and familiarization to crew and engineers. TTC should arrive so
75 Post contains links BWIA 772 : Ok and what about the alleged non payment of suppliers, Is there any truth to that? LI shareholder governments, management and unions had another mee
76 AA1818 : Shame. I guess it was really underperforming. AA1818
77 guyanam : [ CAL gave up ANU POS, ANU BGI, and SXM BGI to Liat. Liat needs to stop bellyaching. There is very little competition between the two carriers. BWIA o
78 baje427 : Are any of the routes LI operate profitable ? I am sure those in the other Caribbean forum will be happy about CAL's failure on the KIN-MIA route. I a
79 BWIA 772 : The reason why I said the fuel subsidy issue is interesting is that when you look to raise that issue under the context of trade agreements etc the r
80 yellowtail : And then AA increases MIA-KIn to 4X daily...which means the traffic is there Then enlira in another thread posted this... AA seems to be having a har
81 BWIA 772 : I think a mix of ATR 42 and 72s to replace the Dash 8 fleet. There was talk about E170/190s which would open some south american and perhaps a North
82 Post contains links and images OA260 : Thought I would share some photos I took at SXM. What a wonderful place More can be seen in the TR : SXM Spotting A Dream Fulfilled+ Air Canada J Clas
83 guyanam : LIAT continuously raises the fuel subsidy red herring when it scarcely competes with CAL (POS GND and now POS SLU). POS GEO, POS BGI were traditional
84 caribbean484 : Two months, low loads and not enough a/c for flight times. TTC I am not sure but they said that it should be, however there are no photos of her yet.
85 point2point : Great pix, but I have to question how anyone can enjoy the beaches there, when it seems that they're literally a couple of steps off of airport prope
86 Post contains images OA260 : Thanks Alot of the time its quiet the jets are not passing over all the time. Most times its a light aircraft etc.. I got a good amount of sun and sw
87 9YCAL : 9Y-TTC was ear mark for JM colours but that has now changed and it is suppose to be delivered in the BW livery.
88 trintocan : So much is happening all at once. At first, though, I am forced to comment on the issue of LI. What unfair competition is there from BW? Again and aga
89 baje427 : I always wondered what was the rationale behind this flight as most of AA connections can be done in MIA I also don't understand the rationale behind
90 caribbean484 : You never cease to amaze me with your historical accounts, its always good to have someone like that around. I still cannot understand why LI is achi
91 turk223 : So here is why some regular a-netters may see me posting often about the lack of a CM service PTY-BGI. It's purely for selfish reasons: the alternativ
92 BWIA 772 : Are you talking about the initial 6 737s ordered under Aleong? So what type of equipment will we be seeing for the leases? The thing is that progress
93 caribbean484 : Yep, cannot say as of yet as final decision is not made but LGW will be announced soon according to the wire. Its business/politics one-on-one, Aleon
94 guyanam : LIAT wants to get Trinidad $$ through investment and the fuel subsidy. THey need to know that Tdad has its own problems and in fact will shortly cut
95 caribbean484 : The Jamaican population is more concentrated in Broward county and having 3 daily flights to FLL is a much better compliment than the lunch time flig
96 817Dreamliiner : This is good news, im glad they chose LGW instead of LHR, I would think that LHR would be too much an expense for them with getting decent slots. You
97 OA260 : That would be great to see. Hope it does well.
98 guyanam : Intersting. I would think with the withdrawl of VS from KIN there would be more room to LGW than there would be on BGI and POS. Given how entrenched
99 BWIA 772 : Best of luck to BW on this, they will need it. Regards BWIA 772
100 beeweel15 : I agree with you on that. I still wish they went for the B777 though
101 Post contains links OA260 : Indeed especially if the tax goes up : UK tax threatens Caribbean tourism Taxing times for air travellers - Air Passenger Duty can reach £170 ($267)
102 Post contains links caribbean484 : Air Caraibes announces new flight Santo Domingo-Paris "French airline Air Caraibes announced the opening of its new online reservations for transatlan
103 GUYAIR707 : Not sure this route makes sense, as far as I know it is not lucrative. What is the rush to get onto this route? CAL is expanding very quickly, maybe
104 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : http://www.centreforaviation.com/blo...o-miami-boosts-guyana-market-66336 Interesting article, I knew CAL operated many flights out of GEO but this is
105 Post contains images caribbean484 : Those LAN 767s come with the new Boeing interior, winglets and very good lease rates. The demand for MIA-GEO is about 10-20 pax per day while NYC see
106 817Dreamliiner : yeah the 777 would have been a better choice as well ok, but wasnt there a rumor about them leasing 787s?
107 baje427 : Good luck to CAL on the LGW-BGI the APD coupled with and Olympic year it will be a challenge they will probably get good loads East bound west bound w
108 Post contains images yellowtail : Trust me the Gov't is begging them.....but CM have many many suitors. If you would like to put in your plea, fly up to NAS in 2 weeks time and plop y
109 817Dreamliiner : Just so you know, I was talking about my own personal preference, I guess I didnt word my statement correctly (early morning), im not so sure what th
110 2travel2know2 : Not only for that, but also for family re-unification. If there's no PTY-BGI chances are long lost cousins or even siblings won't be ever be able to
111 guyanam : BA is scaling back its service to the E/Caribbean this summer, running 21X week, instead of 25X. BGI will be hit big time. VS is also reducing servic
112 yellowtail : I am a lot of rumors about a pending KX PTY-GCM announcement......
113 2travel2know2 : BGI more expensive than AU/A or SXM? When flying from SCL or EZE, BGI is as east as SXM. The point is that a possible BGI-PTY will open BGI to new to
114 wadadli : For the record, this is the seasonal adjustment that VS does to ANU EVERY YEAR May/June and Sep/Oct. You would note that it reverts to 2 non-stops al
115 guyanam : Yes the AA JFK SKB will now be 738 and not 757. Possibly because they are grounding the 757 fleet as it is aged. Also JFK ANU runs 738 service on Mo
116 GUYAIR707 : 767 interiors are very impressive, I stand corrected, I hope they maintain the seatback IFE's. I am still not convinced that the LGW route make sense
117 8b775zq : Couldn't agree more.
118 guyanam : PY might ultimately have to reduce its MIA service. The question wil be whether it is doing so well out of AUA (I doubt it) and so mightnt just run i
119 2travel2know2 : If CM was to fly to BGI, leisure passengers would be just a component of the traffic. There're non-leisure passengers flying between BGI and Latin Am
120 GUYAIR707 : You think there potential for that much traffic PTY-GEO? Let me tell you, if you're talking about luggage, then CM might as well use the 738 on every
121 Post contains images andrefranca : Now they do it in Trinidad! and I keep hearing horror stories about the bajan immigration, If I haven't felt myself the way the officers treat people
122 2travel2know2 : I'm not talking about PTY-GEO O/D but PTY HUB - GEO. And yes out of experience with KIN and PAP routes the B737 comes very handy with all that extra
123 beeweel15 : Of the three pics the top one has the older layout for LAN. I am certain the a/c that BW gets will be one of the older models that wont be as nice lo
124 caribbean484 : You have to remember that BW484 is the first flight to POS from GEO with onward connection to MCO, MIA, YYZ, JFK, ANU, SXM, TAB. The flight usually h
125 A388 : I would also imagine what Beewee15 says. The 767's LAN has with the new Boeing interior are their newest aircraft so it makes no sense to return thos
126 GUYAIR707 : The few times I have flown 484 GEO-POS it is usually about 50% full. I love the times for a POS day flight. There is also 524 quite early for those o
127 Post contains links Caymanair : Hey Guys, been keeping an eye on this place but been too busy to post! Hope everyone had a blessed holiday season. Quite a lot of discussion about upc
128 A388 : That's an interesting approach and one that I have not seen anywhere else for that matter. A388
129 2travel2know2 : While I'd assume that PTY-GCM is a route for CM and not for Air Panama, I can think that CM doesn't have any aircraft of less than 98 passengers like
130 A388 : That's why Air Panama is the better option compared to CM. It will of course be better if the airlines codeshare or co-operate with each other but pa
131 8b775zq : I don't think a third flight will be necessary as most Kittitians prefer MIA for their vacation and shopping trips. Even once popular SJU is losing i
132 guyanam : Why would any one use CM to fly between the mid west and BGI when AA has two nonstops from MIA? BGI is no Jamaica and it isnt cheap. Its relaxing and
133 yellowtail : Guess my intel was spot on. He had been telling me about PTY-GCM for a bout a month. CONGRATS!
134 2travel2know2 : Price? If there are any POS passengers flying to the West coast via PTY, that could be a sign. For most Latinos, all English speaking Caribbean is Ja
135 bloodyrascal : More canadian expansion for NAS. Sunquest has announced a 2Xweekly NAS-YHZ service
136 Post contains links bloodyrascal : http://www.thenassauguardian.com/ind...ent&view=article&id=23204&Itemid=2 Sorry forgot to post the link
137 GUYAIR707 : Seems that Bahamas is safe with airlift if American Eagle cuts staff. Apparently Bahamasair is slated to take up the slack. GUYAIR707
138 guyanam : You have to look at the product that each island offers. Jamaica is much cheaper than Barbados. Nassau has casinos whereas Barbados is a relatively q
139 baje427 : I will state again I dont see how a PTY-BGI route can work AA does not even sustain JFK-BGI daily in the summer season I just dont see where the busin
140 Post contains images 2travel2know2 : Brazilians outside of SAO aren't keen to connect to/from international flights @ GRU. Flying international from/to a major Brazilian airport is so mu
141 Avianca : a question to the experts here. is it possible to earn miles on Caribbean Airlines flight with any other miles programm than the own? thanks! Avianca
142 Post contains images andrefranca : Have you seen the G3 prices? I could fly to the moon and back with fare they sell BGI lol and I'm not sure if they still got the 767s? if they don't
143 BW985 : No, it is not possible at the moment. Caribbean Airlines are adding 3 weekly New York-Georgetown non-stop flights operated by a Boeing 767, 10 Feb-13
144 GUYAIR707 : This is a bad move, 425 is a great flight. GUYAIR707
145 Avianca : only on weekends correct? I just booked yesterday a ticket on the flight but on a weekday...
146 caribbean484 : I believe its North American Yes FRI, SAT, Sun from JFK Its just on weekends and as mentioned they cannot operate 424/425 524/525 and the new service
147 Post contains images beeweel15 : Well after reviewing LAN's fleet I think I narrowed it down to two of of seven aircraft in the fleet. Now I may be wrong but here it is. They transfe
148 8b775zq : Thats the problem.... instead of complaining about fuel subsidies the govts should level the playing field. In levelling the field they could instead
149 Post contains images caribbean484 : Its from the ILFC, so the first two you have quoted will most likely be the candidates. when you are right you are right.
150 BW424 : My apologies guys for my absence on the forum. Been very busy of late since I'm interning at MIA. Was very fortunate to welcome 4C, now LA Colombia to
151 beeweel15 : And their code share partner is AA plus they supposed to be moving over to T8 with AA here at JFK later this year. Dont know if TAM going as yet.[Edi
152 guyanam : Andre says the flight fills up only 4 months of the year. The issue will be whether Colombians, Peruvians, Chileans want to vacation in BRazil becaus
153 caribbean484 : Disregard my last post it is coming from Omni Air, looks like its an ex-Air New Zeland 763 config 24C/210Y. Looks like a lot of the senior 738 pilots
154 2travel2know2 : There are passengers flying between GRU and POS already, distance-wise is like the same detour GRU-PTY-BGI. What route would someone from SAO take to
155 inbound : Give me a month or two and I'll get back to you :-p
156 A388 : Well said, having a nonstop flight doesn't automatically mean, being the best option. In case of a once a week nonstop flight, a connecting flight fr
157 2travel2know2 : Man, PTY-BGI thrice weekly or more even for me is too much for now. I'm quite optimistic about a PTY (hub) - BGI link but a realistic one. Lets see i
158 A388 : Just to be clear, I was just giving an example. I was giving that frequency based on what I've seen in AUA and soon CUR. A388
159 yellowtail : if you need a visa it is not
160 guyanam : They fly via PTY to POS because there is no direct GRU POS service. Also most of the people traveling to POS are business people who like daily servi
161 A388 : You are aright, I forgot about that. That indeed doesn't make MIA a preferred option but it is an option nonetheless. A388
162 2travel2know2 : If BGI is a SXM-like destination, maybe it'd be good to ask the Brazilians why do they take CM to SXM now then? Another fact is that a major Brazilia
163 guyanam : Well BGi is nothing like SXM. SXM has casinos, shopping and a very active nightlife. BGI is more for mature couples and families. No casinos and and
164 Post contains images yellowtail : That is absolutely not true. I have been at the same event where both were talking (recently). I am sure if you go to ROUTES next week you will see s
165 Post contains images andrefranca : Colombians need visa even to visit their grandma on the backyard LOL, don't think they'd be feeders! Checking the timatic they can stay on BGI up to
166 guyanam : Yes I said that BGI has been chatting with CM....some one here said they were. Any rumors of impending CM service yet?
167 yellowtail : Trust me..getting new service (unless you are willing to write a big check) is a very long and time consuming process...a process that ebbs and flows
168 Post contains images westindian425 : Oh really?! Interesting!
169 andrefranca : I REALLY wish them luck aswel! would be sad to see another BWI style fiasco on the london routes!
170 Post contains images A388 : On the contrary, I think many people believed, except CM. Now CM will take that step, finally A388[Edited 2012-02-08 04:12:12]
171 baje427 : Until CM announces and the first flight touches down in BGI I will be skeptical immigration officers in BGI are a problem does anyone know how Brazili
172 Post contains images yellowtail : How the English tourists find the language barrier
173 andrefranca : No clue, when G3 said they'd drop SXM and keep BGI I though it was a joke!
174 guyanam : I find keeping BGI and dropping SXM odd too. From what I understand CUR/AUA are popular with Brazilians because of casinos and ample duty free shoppi
175 baje427 : As a Bajan I always wonder why people come here its not as natural as DOM or SLU its has no casinos and the beach can be had in any other Caribbean is
176 guyanam : Its user friendly. Things work. You have almost 24 hour convenience stores available. No surprises. No drama. Just what a mature adult couple or a fa
177 trintocan : Barbados does tourism very well and has a very high satisfaction rate, so you will find a lot of repeat visitors - it has one of the highest return r
178 guyanam : And then you must add the adverse impact of the APD which is leading to declining travle from the UK to the Caribbean.
179 Post contains images LimaFoxTango : LIAT has now reduced it's fleet by three aircraft. V2-LEF/LDU, -100's which were both owned by LIAT has been sold to another operator. One -300, V2-LG
180 8b775zq : What will become of the cargo ops if they're planning on selling the 100's even the aircraft in cargo config?
181 windian425 : These are charter flights for cruise passengers so they are all fully booked/sold out.
182 LimaFoxTango : The current plan is to use one of the -300's V2-LGH as a freighter. This aircraft has the ability to operate in a combi (20 pax extended baggage hold
183 andrefranca : I think they consider safety over casinos, our coast cities are taken by gangsters and the cops are always on strike, right now SSA and FOR look like
184 2travel2know2 : I agree, Brazilians now with an strong currency will choose to fly for beach holidays overseas over vacations in FOR and SSA (perhaps REC, NAT and SL
185 baje427 : So where will LI get the resources to refleet the regional governments don't have the funds. The backlog for the ATR is large.
186 guyanam : Yes I heard that. 130 murders in Salvador over a weekend! Not good as many were fearful of Rio for the World Cup and Olympics. This is getting wide s
187 andrefranca : I think the language barrier doesn't stop them neither, many many brazilians go to the US without knowing even the "to be" verb.... GND asks us visa,
188 guyanam : India and Nigera/So Africa is pure politics. the PM of T&T wants to placate the Indians with flights to India. fearing the blacks will accuse her
189 8b775zq : This confirms what I already knew..... LI has no idea what they wanna do or which direction they wanna go. This is the same cargo service they were c
190 Post contains links BW424 : CAL has launched their remodeled website. http://www.caribbean-airlines.com/
191 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : hmmm not bad, like the intro song as well
192 trintocan : Good point! Do you remember David Rudder's calypso from 1986, "Bahia Girl"? That is SSA he's referring to. My mother has visited there and said that
193 Post contains images A388 : Hello everybody, Below are my latest photos taken in CUR: Hope you like them!!! A388
194 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Great pics as always! Great that you got the KLM MD11 as well, not really a fan of it, but they're rare these days, so you got to catch them when you
195 LimaFoxTango : I see CAL inaugurated their POS-SLU flight a few days ago. The flight was done with the Dash 8. I thought this was suppose to be an ATR route. Would'v
196 andrefranca : I expected a more futuristic design anyways.... only changed a few features! I had the chance to fly klm's MD 11 from CUR, great experience!
197 LIA310 : The SLU flights will be operated by the Dash 8's for now. The ATR's will eventually take over as more are delivered.
198 Post contains links caribbean484 : Dispute between Taiwan and Grenada could result in airport closing " The ongoing dispute between Taiwan and Grenada over monies reportedly owed by the
199 A388 : Thanks 817Dreamliner. Well, catch them again while you can because they will disappear before you know it. Nice, congratulations to Caribbean Airline
200 caribbean484 : In the mills it is said late April; not sure where they will fly first my bet NYC and YYZ proving then LGW 14th June, hope all the best because it wi
201 andrefranca : That's sad indeed! my heart bleeds when I see a caricom nation in trouble! can they ask China for help? Congrats to BW, it's their second second chan
202 2travel2know2 : Who's GND airport operator? It's the Grenada government? Wouldn't be easier to negotiate a deal with Taiwan (TPE) Airport Corporation, ask them to ru
203 andrefranca : Fact: "new colonialism" is a cancer these days, probably Taiwan made an offer (as they also did to DOM and SKB) and now these islands are seing they
204 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : Are the ATR's on the airbridge only? How are they performing soo far? REDjet accuses rival of deceptive advertising Barbados-based and the Caribbean
205 LIA310 : They are also flying to CCS and GND. They will also be operating some flights to BGI for the Carnival season.
206 BWIA 772 : So I have seen BW new website... it's a nice site and IMHO more in keeping with the type of branding that is coming out of BW these days. Some nice t
207 Post contains images A388 : Sounds logical and was what I had in mind too. In any case, congratulations to Caribbean Airlines' soon to receive widebody aircraft A388
208 Post contains images andrefranca : From Tiara Air Facebook page! Tiara Air Aruba Boeing 737 ARAWAK Arrival February 16, 2012 pa 4:45pm. Nos ta invita un y tur pa wak su yegada 4:45pm na
209 A388 : Goods news indeed and all the best to them!!! A388
210 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : CAL's 9Y-TTC photoed. Any idea when delivery will be? http://www.flickr.com/photos/f-alex_alexis_charroud/6852395941/
211 baje427 : Can you guys confirm all of JM A320 have been retired noticed an A320 landing tonight in BGI registration was JMF did not get the first two digits.
212 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : Trick of the eye. JMF is BW's 738 painted in JM colours. http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=1073783
213 Post contains links CO777DAL : In case anyone is wondering what the inside of Caribbean Airlines ATR-72-600 looks like, here is a video of the boarding at POS with video of the inte
214 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Great videos! Thanks for sharing, I actually wondered what the interior looked like, not bad at all
215 guyanam : Big over head lockers. NICE!!!!
216 baje427 : The ATR indeed do look like a nice ride were the drop down screens used for the safety demo or was it done manually.
217 andrefranca : It looks nice, but guys their Dash cabin were not thaaaat bad compared to smelly and grosse LIAT's!
218 BW424 : I don't think its a case of DHC8's cabin being bad. It is very decent. It's probably that the new ATR is SO MUCH BETTER. Very nice vids my friend. Yo
219 CO777DAL : Thanks everyone! I fly on the Q400 almost every week. The differences between the Q400 and ATR-72-600 are noticeable. Having flown both the ATR is mu
220 windian425 : ROUTES AMERICAS: REDJet Expands to St Maarten Posted 19/02/2012 Caribbean low-cost carrier REDJet is set to launch a twice weekly link between Barbado
221 baje427 : Anyone know why N7533A a former AA MD83 was in BGI yesterday it arrived from MDSD I thought it might have been for RD but it departed later in the day
222 windian425 : I believe it was a ferry flight for an airline called Tango. Not sure exactly where it departed for but i was routed on the A555 heading south. It wo
223 andrefranca : Thumbs up for RD! many people were really asking for this route to avoid Liat's abusive prices!
224 Post contains images A388 : Hello guys, I was sick last friday but I'm back again. Below are my latest Curacaophotos added to the database: Regarding RedJet starting flights to S
225 windian425 : Schedules should be published early March for an April start of operations. They will be similar to the BW/CAL 414 schedule.
226 LimaFoxTango : A quick number crunching shows that 6,500 pax equals just over 17 pax per day. Clearly, this is not big of a market for two airlines. Perhaps that's
227 windian425 : This flight will continue to KIN and therefore have additional passengers per flight. Also note that with the low cost model should grow the market a
228 Post contains images andrefranca : FACT, mainly cause their 31' something dollars fare are by far more atractive than BW 's 200 something each way (I went on their websites to simulate
229 baje427 : If the prices are right I might take a trip on RD to SXM the schedule should be an Friday evening departure to SXM and Sunday evening arrival to BGI t
230 vfw614 : Was on a CIW flight last week and it was 4 people in from GND and approx. 10 people out to BGI, making me wonder whether this is a viable operation.
231 A388 : Yes, Insel Air Aruba and Tiara Air are working together. That "Aruba" logo is part of the tourism promotion the Aruban government is doing now. A388
232 andrefranca : Seems it's the aruban logo for touristic purposes! many countries got it, cayman's a turtle, barbados got its flying fish, etc.. etc... etc...
233 Post contains images andrefranca : oww, A388 was faster! there's your answer
234 vfw614 : Thanks guys. But it is not only the logo, but also the cheatline and the tail that are similar, hence my asking. The livery of Insel Air Fokker 50 and
235 LimaFoxTango : While LI did have a monopoly on that sector, LI was by no means raking in the dough. Probably due to high fares. The downside now is that three airli
236 A388 : All that is part of the tourism promotion strategy Aruba is following. It's not just the "Aruba" but the "whole thing" so to speak. The tail logos ar
237 windian425 : Unfortunately they will be operating on Tuesday and Saturday initially. I am already planning a Saturday day trip to do some spotting at Maho Beach!
238 baje427 : Thanks for the response do you know who the all white 757 that arrived in BGI around 11:40 am today belongs to thanks.
239 guyanam : And this is the problem with the Redjet model. Planes are too big. Their extreme low yields neceessites hugh loads. When this fails who will Redjet b
240 trintocan : In fact old BW flew BGI - GEO from 1999 as well in competition with LI. Their route ended around 2004 if I recall correctly. Ouch! I recall hearing s
241 vfw614 : Nothing about the CAL counter, but as she explained a general prohibtion to take pictures within the airport. She suggested to see the airport's mana
242 Post contains links and images A388 : My first POS photo of the terminal check-in area is now in the database as well: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation P
243 andrefranca : It's the rule in many countries, for "security" reason, you csn't take pics!
244 A388 : Most airports I've been to are not being difficult when taking photos inside the terminal. In some cases I politely asked and it was okay. You should
245 LimaFoxTango : While this is indeed true, at the end of the day the operating cost of LI's -100's vs -300's at the end of the day is minimal. The -100's in the flee
246 baje427 : Are any of LI aircraft equipped with NVS? Just curious has there been any word on the reason for the CAL overrun in GEO are the crew back flying?
247 andrefranca : well we're all waiting the investigations to end, but I've heard speculations in TT, the capt landed way too fast and after the touch mark.... as the
248 vfw614 : Of course I am aware of that. But the funny thing is that it was not about taking pictures of the airport, people etc., but about taking pictures fro
249 Post contains links andrefranca : Yes I've been there and I imagine, but I meant some countries are more strict than others, A388 posted a pic from POS here, while I was there I saw a
250 guyanam : Is WINAR going to expand beyond its core routes again. They have tried it three times before and ended up losing buckets. Doing FDF and PTP ex SXM pu
251 andrefranca : yeah it's hard to say... maybe they'll run some seasonal flights.... Winair should stick to their SAB and EUX routes! they can't beat Air caraibes un
252 divemaster08 : Any one able to grab some shots of the BWA 744 serive in POS? Also any one on the inside know if this aircraft is full? I would hope so after all the
253 SJOtoLIR : Isn't Tropic Air into BZE-SAP 3x weekly which is due to start on March 12th? . The new CM PTY-CUR 4x weekly would complement the existing CM PTY-AUA
254 Post contains links BW424 : New thread up guys!! My apologies for the wait.. One Happy Island - Caribbean Aviation Thread 95 (by BW424 Feb 25 2012 in Civil Aviation)
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