atrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5717 posts, RR: 51 Posted (4 years 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11613 times:
American, perhaps in an effort to retain the business of travelers spooked by their recent bankruptcy filing or maybe just because they were feeling benevolent when they woke up this morning, says they will return to the good ol’ days of in-flight inebriation beginning February 1st. That’s right: All American flights to Europe, Asia, and southern South America (Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Uruguay) will offer free wine, liquor and beer.
Indy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4617 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11566 times:
Quoting atrude777 (Thread starter): While Free Alcohol won't make or break my decision on who to fly, it is good to see something being added back instead of cutting on board service wise with American during their BK proceedings.
I don't know. it shows goodwill which so many airlines have completely forgotten about. With so much frustration over poor service I just may use AA on my next TATL flight. Ok when I move to RDU I probably will use AA anyway but even if my next TATL flight originates in IND I may give AA a try. I believe in rewarding the airline that goes out of its way to provide better service. The free alcohol is a small step but it is a step in the right direction.
BoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 4105 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11245 times:
Quoting DesertFlyer (Reply 8): Since I'm flying DFW-MAD on Feb 2 in their otherwise terrible Y product,
Maybe it's me, but I don't find Y on AA 767s to really be that bad. It certainly doesn't knock your sock off, but I don't find it terrible. It's a lot better than being crammed into a QF 744 with it's tight seat pitch for 14 hours. Gosh, that was awful.
The free beer and wine will be a welcome return. I take it that it doesn't apply to places like UIO or LPB.
AAIL86 From Finland, joined Feb 2011, 477 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11191 times:
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 9): Maybe it's me, but I don't find Y on AA 767s to really be that bad. It certainly doesn't knock your sock off, but I don't find it terrible. It's a lot better than being crammed into a QF 744 with it's tight seat pitch for 14 hours.
Or a UA744 on ORD-NRT.... or the 'beautiful' ex-Air One AZ 330 I flew to Italy in last summer...
At least the AA 763s are clean and well kept. Can't say the same about that 330...
Quoting AAIL86 (Reply 7): I see bankruptcy is having more positives that we could have possibly imagined.....
Not sure if its a good thing for them to do in Chpt.11, the rules have changed and they essentially have to sink or swim with the cash on hand that they entered with and whatever is made by operations, let's hope that the incremental income derived is greater than the cost and it not just being lookded at as a promotional item of things to come.
One benefit of Chpt.11 is that most clients remain as the danger of shutting down is not imminent which usually results in the majority of clients looking for other carriers.
mhkansan From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 797 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11125 times:
Quoting AAIL86 (Reply 10): At least the AA 763s are clean and well kept. Can't say the same about that 330...
Thats right! I just finished a trip to Europe with AA (ORD-CDG/FRA-DFW) both on the 763. I was very impressed with the cleanliness of both aircraft, except on the FRA-DFW leg they had just sprayed the tray table and not wiped it (on the quick FRA turns they probably ran out of time). Regardless, AA has done a fantastic job with their fleet of 767s and I didn't think it was bad at all in Y, even if I was in the bulkhead!
B747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17540 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11092 times:
But will this really make the average pax choose AA over another carrier, especially if AA doesnt come first in Orbitz/Expedia/kayak and the likes? People are still looking for the cheapest ticket, not if they get free beer or not.
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 10901 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11081 times:
The good thing I see behind this is that it gets their service levels a little closer to their other Oneworld alliance partners. If they want marketing to make flying on one is equivalent to the other, homogenizing service is a good thing.
If you have never designed an airplane part before, let the real designers do the work!
fxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7475 posts, RR: 79
Reply 20, posted (4 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 10786 times:
Something the airline should have never taken away - free booze. It's a no cost issue so it's hard to figure out why some middle manager guru pulled free booze on internationals whenever they did. Flight attendants still give away and 'spill' more drinks then they'd give away in coach so I'm lost. If AA wants to put the booze blinders on the coach crowd so be it. Good luck to those granny flight attendants dealing with drunk college kids and entitled flyers.
eastern023 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 901 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 10473 times:
Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 2): Now if only we could see something with those 763's on the 9+ hour flights.
Yes, PTV's would be welcome...
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 9): Maybe it's me, but I don't find Y on AA 767s to really be that bad. It certainly doesn't knock your sock off, but I don't find it terrible.
Are you serious? I don't mind the 763, but no PTVs in a 10 hr flight (i.e DFW-SCL) is pretty bad. Also, if AA can up their game on their catering, meals in coach are not edible. I used to fly them but I got sick of this. I find AC to be a better deal. I live in IAD so I don't mind the conexion at YYZ. Sorry AA...a bit too late.
Acey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1613 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (4 years 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 10360 times:
I think it's a good step. AA has only been in bankruptcy less than two months, at least they're starting to make positive strides. When DL and UA went into chapter 11 they were in pretty bad shape, and they're doing leaps and bounds better now, especially Delta. I hope things continually improve and they can introduce more nice amenities over time.
did this changed? If I am not wrong ATL-CCS is shorter than 6 hours and I had my free Heineken 2.5 years ago on that route!
And yes very good decicion made by AA, who does not whant a nice Beer or Wine with the lunch / dinner...
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: VVI?? UM, I guess CO now would be inline with UA?
: Knowing AA I'll bet a small fortune that it is 1 comp beer OR wine; so it should not cause too much rambunctiousness. As for the granny flight attend
: I know it's only one experience, but I flew MAD-DFW a couple months ago and found the food in Y to be not only edible, but actually pretty good. And
: That's a real glass from a previous wine I had for lunch. Actually this is something that concerns me: what is the rock bottom line for service quali
: So all U.S. carriers are still behind virtually all their foreign competitors, especially to Europe. I can't think of any non-U.S.carriers that charg
: Well true on the first part... I think most of us agree that we perfer BA to AA, LH to UA or KL to DL in general. But let's not forget that AF crams
: LO. They charge for alcoholic beverages in Y.
: Actually, this has nothing necessarily to do with bankruptcy. Since the JBA began, BA has pressured AA to bring their cabin products closer to BA sta
: Not when I flew AF SEA-CDG-JNB a few years ago they didn't. All was free and excellent service.
: WildcatYXU was referring to LO (LOT Polish Airlines) not AF.
: Right. AF has the horrid 10-across 777s, LO charges for alcohol, LH lacks PTVs in the 747s... European carriers on the whole aren't exactly leaps and
: Interesting....I'm a loyal OW Alliance flyer and fly multiple RTW itineries each year in economy. Previously I have avoided AA anytime another option
: According to seatguru.com all QF 744 variants have 31in pitch Y seating, while AA 763s have 30in pitch Y seating. I suspect you would not have enjoye
: Woo hoo - good to hear about this - something to liven up those miserably boring long flights! Of course, now I hope UA also decides that this is a no
: I think it's a stupid Idea from a FA's perspective . When we began charging for booze is regulated from having people getting waisted onboard. Now wit
: In addition to LOT, AB and DE charge for alcoholic beverages on their flights to the US. AB does include one free alcoholic drink with your meal thou
: Oh yes, punish the 99% for the malicious act of the 1%. I have heard about people damaging their IFE-remote control or screen too……….let´s tak
: It goes further. LO and OS are both on the "no PTV in Y" list and OS has 10 across 777s as well. At least they don't fly the 777s here.
: With all due respect, Sir, I have seen with my own eyes during my 26 years in the sky how much more people will drink in Y when booze is free. It oft
: Fair enough. I have seen some sad stuff too. My 99% - 1% percentage may not be entirely correct, but the HUGE majority of people I witnessed did NOT
: Honestly, it's not about the work. I'm there to serve people in any cabin, and I would like them to feel comfortable. A beverage is a beverage. And b
: UA and US are now the only ones charging for beer/wine on flights to Europe, India and S. South America. With UA's partners LH and others still provid
: Unless I'm mistaken, DL re-introduced free beer and wine when they emerged from Ch. 11. So AA may be following in their footsteps. I just flew DTWGRU
: In Y, not in F or J. [qote=hohd,reply=46]UA and US are now the only ones charging for beer/wine on flights to Europe, India and S. South America. Wit