TWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 3540 posts, RR: 3 Posted (4 years 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2407 times:
Had TWA survived BK and were alive and kickin' today, what would thier widebody fleet look like? I know they ordered A318s for the narrow body sector so that makes me think they would go for the A330, but they also had a huge fleet of 717s so that makes me think more 767s and 777s? Maybe 744s and 8s or A380s had they managed to keep JFK but that's getting ahead of myself. As you can tell by my user name, I am a TWA fan. Routes that they my have added would be nice too and as usual any responses are welcomed.
Had they emerged from Ch. 11, I'd imagine they'd operate a fleet like pm-United, or DL/NW. A little of everything.. but no VLAs or 737..
I'd want to see: 717, 737MAX, 767WL (retiring), 787, and 777s.. but..
Narrowbody: 717 (retiring), A320NEO, and A321NEO.
Widebody: 767, 777, 787 or.. had they continued with the Airbus order.. A330, A350.. or a mixed fleet of A330-200, 777-200, 777-300, with the 787 coming in to replace the A332, and the A350 coming in to replace the 777-300.
So, the way I'd think TWA would look today is: 717 (retiring), A320, A321, A330-200/787-8 (retiring/entering), 777-200/787-9 (retiring/entering), 777-300/A350-800/-900 (retiring/entering/""), and A350-10
I would see A318s getting the boot around now; new 767s replacing old ones; a sub fleet of A330s getting the boot also; 777s to Europe and Asia from JFK; and 737MAX on order. With an increase in US domestic routes and growing in South America and entering Australia.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 17449 posts, RR: 49
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1773 times:
Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 4): I would see A318s getting the boot around now; new 767s replacing old ones; a sub fleet of A330s getting the boot also; 777s to Europe and Asia from JFK; and 737MAX on order. With an increase in US domestic routes and growing in South America and entering Australia.
If TWA would have survived their bankruptcy they most likely would have entered CH-11 again either due to the high fuel prices or the economic collapse of 2008. TWA was never that large at JFK, not as large as AA, DL and B6 are today, frankly TWA was in trouble for a very long time. They were done if AA didn't throw their employees that life line, however that deal AA did with TWA is probably part of the reason why AA is in the position they are today.
seabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7018 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1775 times:
They were an enormous TATL operator, and the A330 would have fit them perfectly. I think they would have also purchased a few A340s for their longest routes, which would now be in the process of being replaced by 77Ws. So today, I think they'd have:
RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 10927 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1754 times:
TWA was purchasing 717s, 757s, 767s at the time of their demise. I am not sure what they would have done with the MD80s as they had continued taking delivery into the mid 90s. They had committed to the A318, but I would expect that they would acquire larger A319s or A320s.
I think they would have continued purchasing the 767. They didn't have much of a need for an airplane larger than that.
[Edited 2012-01-19 12:37:35]
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