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Early L1011 TriStars  
User currently offlineA340600MAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 144 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3171 times:

Hi folks

In the very early days of production of the TriStar did any L1011-100's ever get converted to -200's?

C/n's 1131, 1133 & 1138 are the frames that I'm interested in.

Were they built as -100's then immediately converted to -200's before delivery to Gulf Air or was the conversion much later? If later when was the conversion?

Information on the net gives mixed messages.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Len


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User currently offlineN747pa From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3116 times:

IIRC, to convert from -100 to -200 only requires an engine change from -22B to -524.

User currently offlineA340600MAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2683 times:

Quoting N747pa (Reply 1):

That is correct.

Does anyone know if there was a Lockheed website detailing deliveries as they happened?

....or a website around the mid late seventies that held details of deliveries?

Len



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User currently offlineshankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2573 times:

Quoting A340600MAN (Reply 2):
....or a website around the mid late seventies that held details of deliveries?


Website...mid late seventies!? Stand back and think about that statement A340600MAN

In the days before the Internet one would rely on publications, particularly the monthly aviation magazines which often detailed airliner deliveries and the annual fleet books (CAM and JP in the UK)



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25332 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2485 times:

This L-1011 production list indicates that those 3 aircraft were converted from -100s to -200s in 1982.
http://flytristar.tripod.com/page/prodlist.html


User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12566 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2473 times:
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All three were delivered as -100s in 1976 and converted to -200s in 1982.

c/n 1131
Delivered to Gulf Air (G-BDCW) as a -100 in Jan '76, re-reg as A4O-TW Feb '76. Converted to -200 Jul '82.

c/n 1132
Delivered to Gulf Air (G-BDCX) as a -100 in Feb '76, re-reg as A4O-TX Apr '76. Converted to -200 Apr '82.

c/n 1138
Delivered to Gulf Air (G-BDCY) as a -100 in Jul '76, re-reg as A4O-TY Aug '76. Converted to -200 Apr '82.



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User currently offlineOB1783P From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

I remember flying in a 1011 with no luggage compartments in the middle of the cabin. The spaciousness was wonderful, and since the flight was not very full, there was no chaos with the carry-ons.


I've flown thousands of miles and I can tell you it's a lot safer than crossing the street!
User currently offlineA340600MAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2238 times:

Quoting shankly (Reply 3):

Quoting A340600MAN (Reply 2):
....or a website around the mid late seventies that held details of deliveries?


Website...mid late seventies!? Stand back and think about that statement A340600MAN

In the days before the Internet one would rely on publications, particularly the monthly aviation magazines which often detailed airliner deliveries and the annual fleet books (CAM and JP in the UK)

Of course, what was I thinking !!        



Fav aircraft has to be A340-600
User currently offlineA340600MAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2232 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 4):
This L-1011 production list indicates that those 3 aircraft were converted from -100s to -200s in 1982.
http://flytristar.tripod.com/page/pr....html
Quoting scbriml (Reply 5):
All three were delivered as -100s in 1976 and converted to -200s in 1982.

c/n 1131
Delivered to Gulf Air (G-BDCW) as a -100 in Jan '76, re-reg as A4O-TW Feb '76. Converted to -200 Jul '82.

c/n 1132
Delivered to Gulf Air (G-BDCX) as a -100 in Feb '76, re-reg as A4O-TX Apr '76. Converted to -200 Apr '82.

c/n 1138
Delivered to Gulf Air (G-BDCY) as a -100 in Jul '76, re-reg as A4O-TY Aug '76. Converted to -200 Apr '82.

Thanks to the both of you.

Len



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User currently offlineTristarsteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 4009 posts, RR: 33
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1842 times:

Quoting N747pa (Reply 1):
IIRC, to convert from -100 to -200 only requires an engine change from -22B to -524.

Well there was a little more. The -524 engine had higher temp and press air offtakes. So before the engines were replaced we had to change a lot of components in the air system. I remember that we did all this work first, a month before the engines were replaced. The engines were changed in LHR, by GF staff in the BA hangar. This was to save on engine transport costs after the engines were delivered from RR. With our ace engine change team, the tripple engine change only took 24 hrs.

The -100 Tristars had problems on BAH-LHR. It was really too far, so the conversion was a relief. (I thought it was 1978/9).
When GF bought these four -100s the plan was to operate a scissor operation through Beirut, from LHR, CDG and AMS to BAH DOH AUH and DXB. But just before delivery civil war broke out in Beirut, and the aircraft had to operate non-stop instead, but only to BAH and DOH. The UAE was too far.


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