seabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6365 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 18717 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1): Yes the 1-year Atlas lease is up as they have acquired other equipment and N194UA will operate on AMC and other charter flying over the next year back at United.
So I assume either 1) they are looking for other lessees or 2) the aircraft is due for a heavy check before long and they intend to park it? That's not what you do for an airplane that you ever expect back in your mainline fleet.
Quoting gdg9 (Reply 4): Well it looks like they were trying to do the repaint on the cheap here.
Yes, they did the minimum -- they pained navy blue over the Atlas globe and white over the name. The result is generic-looking. Increasing that sense is "CHARTER" in the new titling, making it seem like it's a new division of the company or something. Only the winglets, with their Atlas-gold horizontal stripe, not so different from UA's gold shade, seem proper.
Is N194UA a plane UA will want to keep? Flying charters, or mainline?
Airfleets.net indicates she first flew in June 1996.
71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3097 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 17611 times:
It was doing AMC charters while with Atlas so I would guess it stayed in the old UA configuration. You would think with the "charter" paint scheme it will do charters only and maybe a rare mainline substitution, but hard to find any info on this aircraft. I've been watching acars and looks like it is still sitting in SFO.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26875 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 17149 times:
Quoting Schweigend (Reply 6): A ramper at IAH told me that N194UA had been reconfigured to all-J/F seating, with no Y, for its service to Africa. Is that true? Or has she remained in her original UA config?
No stayed in the old UAL FCY config. Never touched the Sonair Angola flying, just did AMC and other commercial charters with at Atlas.
Quoting Schweigend (Reply 6): Is N194UA a plane UA will want to keep? Flying charters, or mainline?
-400 days are numbered at UA. As I recall another one or two tails get parked this year.
194 I understand will stick around for about 1-year on AMC flying which starts in the spring IIRC.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
atcsundevil From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1285 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 17002 times:
I would guess they haven't gone the full mile because they still have about 150 PMUA aircraft waiting to receive the new livery. They've got a pretty ambitious timeline for having the entire fleet painted. Why should something which is parked most of the time and used as a charter some of the time take up a slot in the paint shop for the better part a week, if not more? Not to mention it may be out the door or in the desert by this time next year.
Sure, it looks half assed, but that paint job probably took two guys and a scissor lift less than a day. I suppose they did what PMCO has done to change the Continental tiles to say UNITED. Yes, it looks like crap, but for the job they've apparently tasked it with, it's sensible. It says UNITED and is relatively close to the same paint scheme, sans the globe, obviously. I say it's good enough.
na From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 11024 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 16934 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 9): -400 days are numbered at UA. As I recall another one or two tails get parked this year.
UA 744s from now on are wfu due to age, not due to lease exprirements. They have a number of 1989/1990-built examples which are approaching final retirement. In very few years we´ll be discussing this about UAs aging 777 fleet.
sunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2071 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 16874 times:
I received an emailed from a friend who said this "on the wide body side we are bringing back 8194 (747-400) back from lease and they must have plans for EWR as they will be running a 747/400 intro class for the mechanics..UA NEVER has a class for no reason so there will be -400 ops there."
This will just make some of you ask more questions.