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WN/FL Confirm Plans To Maintain Ops At 22 Stations  
User currently onlineatrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5702 posts, RR: 52
Posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12530 times:

Southwest Airlines and AirTran Airways Confirm Plans to Maintain AirTran Airways Operations at 22 Domestic and International Airports

Seattle to Become First Jointly Served Airport to Fully Combine Operations into Southwest

DALLAS, Jan. 20, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Southwest Airlines (NYSE: LUV) and its wholly owned subsidiary AirTran Airways confirmed today the intent to convert AirTran Airways operations at 22 domestic and international airports to Southwest operations over time.

The 22 AirTran airports that will continue to operate and will eventually join the Southwest route map include: Flint, Mich. (FNT); Rochester, N.Y. (ROC); Pensacola, Fla. (PNS); Charlotte, N.C. (CLT); Dayton, Ohio (DAY); Richmond, Va. (RIC); Key West, Fla. (EYW); Washington, D.C. (DCA); Memphis, Tenn. (MEM); Akron-Canton, Ohio (CAK); Wichita, Kan. (ICT); Des Moines, Iowa (DSM); Branson, Mo. (BKG); Portland, Maine (PWM); Grand Rapids, Mich. (GRR); Punta Cana, Dominican Republic (PUJ); Cancun, Mexico (CUN); Montego Bay, Jamaica (MBJ); Aruba (AUA); San Juan, Puerto Rico (SJU); Bermuda (BDA); and Nassau, Bahamas (NAS). AirTran service and Employees at these airports are planned to convert to Southwest gradually over the course of AirTran's integration into Southwest. The airlines earlier announced that AirTran will begin serving Mexico City, Mexico (MEX) on May 24, 2012, and San Jose Cabo, Mexico (SJD) on June 3, 2012. Those destinations also will convert to Southwest over ti me. Of the 69 cities AirTran served when Southwest acquired it on May 2, 2011, 53 cities are planned to convert to full Southwest Airlines service.


I find it interesting SEA will be the first city to see the fully integrated Operations.

CLOSING STATIONS--
Effective Aug. 12, 2012, AirTran Airways will cease operations at the following airports: Allentown, Pa. (ABE); Lexington, Ky. (LEX); Harrisburg, Pa. (MDT); Sarasota, Fla. (SRQ); Huntsville, Ala. (HSV); and White Plains, N.Y. (HPN). AirTran currently operates six daily nonstop flights at Sarasota with 16 Employees. Its Allentown (one daily nonstop flight), Lexington (two daily nonstop flights), Harrisburg (one daily nonstop flight), Huntsville (two daily nonstop flights), and White Plains (three daily nonstop flights) operations are all supported by AirTran's contracted vendor partners.

Alex

[Edited 2012-01-20 10:24:25]


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User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1485 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12472 times:

So, a few weeks ago we were "announcing new service" from ATL-LAX... even though FL already operated it. With SEA WN will take over flying ATL-SEA and MKW-SEA... so what determines "announcing new service" and simply "taking over flying"? Is it simply that the networks currently aren't connected so it's NEW service to the respective carrier, but by then we should be connected via codeshare so it's NOT new service?


Does this question even make sense? I'm admittedly having difficulty articulating my point... eeeshk!



ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
User currently offlineFlytravel From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12346 times:

I guess it's good to have a complete list now.

PWM has 2x on PWM-BWI. I wonder how it will get beefed up for 6-8 flights if that happens. Will they all be BWI, or a mix - any ideas? It's just 2 hours from the BOS area airports, and serves an area with under 1 million residents and Maine has another airport. There must have been high existing yields or some other favorable factor.

I suppose MDT being too close to BWI, and over 500 miles from any other focus city, eliminated MDT's possibility even though there are more residents in Central PA not nearer to another airport. RIC survived but I doubt WN will link it to BWI.

Not sure why HSV (which had BWI service) didn't make it.

Detroit and Cleveland will now have 2 area airports each serving the markets.

[Edited 2012-01-20 10:53:01]

User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3104 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12323 times:

So WN will be at PNS. Interesting (for me)!


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User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3047 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 12250 times:

I'm looking forward to seeing to what WN "hubs" most of these FL destinations will get connections to. Mostly interested to see what FL stations will be flown from MDW nonstop. Sad to see SRQ go, FL has flown this from MDW for quite awhile.

User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3847 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 12210 times:

Quoting Flytravel (Reply 2):
Not sure why HSV (which had BWI service) didn't make it.

Because it doesn't matter that you have BWI if you don't put butts in the seats.


User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2263 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 12188 times:

Many people said WN would axe FNT, because there was too much overlap between DTW's and FNT's catchment areas.

I'm glad to see WN felt otherwise. FNT has been served since the ValuJet days, and it's nice to see that WN will maintain a presence there.



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User currently offlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6194 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 12038 times:

CAK was no secret. When they added FL CAK-DEN, the cat was out of the bag there.


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User currently offlineevanbu From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11975 times:

And the people of Des Moines have finally, after many years, landed Southwest Airlines!

User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2182 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11921 times:

So instead of using my RR points to go to scenic and amazing Midland (and Odessa), I can now go to Flint. How nice....

User currently offlinePI767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11821 times:

Quoting chrisair (Reply 9):
So instead of using my RR points to go to scenic and amazing Midland (and Odessa), I can now go to Flint. How nice....

or Punta Cana, Cancun, Montego Bay, Arbua, San Juan, Bermuda or Nassau..... but it was easier to poke fun of Southwest if you used Flint, right?


User currently offlinedbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 908 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11796 times:

Quoting evanbu (Reply 8):

And the people of Des Moines have finally, after many years, landed Southwest Airlines!

I'm anxious to see what they do here. DSM-MKE is obviously not working out for them.


User currently offlineevanbu From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11776 times:

Quoting dbo861 (Reply 11):

DSM-MKE is axed
DSM-MDW 3X
DSM-DEN 2X
DSM-PHX 1X
DSM-LAS 1X

Pure speculation


User currently offlineZBA2CGX From Canada, joined Mar 2006, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11678 times:

I'm assuming they are closing SRQ because it is too close to TPA and RSW? That was of the great things about flying FL from MDW to SRQ was the direct flight and no hassle. That route will be missed 

User currently offlinedbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 908 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11653 times:

Quoting evanbu (Reply 12):
DSM-DEN 2X

If that happens, I have a feeling Frontier's days are numbered here. Southwest has way more brand recognition in DSM despite F9's presence over the last couple years and WN only serving OMA and MCI. Honestly prefer Frontier over Southwest. Hopefully I'm wrong.


User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2182 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11638 times:

Quoting PI767 (Reply 10):
but it was easier to poke fun of Southwest if you used Flint, right?

Of course. 


User currently offlineDashTrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11563 times:

Quoting Kcrwflyer (Reply 5):
Because it doesn't matter that you have BWI if you don't put butts in the seats.

I used them a few times. Very few of the seats did not have butts in them. Whether or not those butts were paying enough money to sit there I can't say.


User currently offlinemicstatic From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11461 times:

Good to see that key west stays


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User currently offlineBD338 From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 738 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11406 times:

Quoting atrude777 (Thread starter):
CLOSING STATIONS--
Effective Aug. 12, 2012, AirTran Airways will cease operations at the following airports: Huntsville, Ala. (HSV);

..just a random guess here but I bet the fares on DL for HSV-ATL from August 13, 2012 are a lot higher than they were on August 11, 2012.   Personal experience of WN pulling out of SLC-BOI gives me a clue here.


User currently offlineDashTrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11364 times:

Quoting BD338 (Reply 18):


HSV-BWI one way
8/10: $99 on Delta.
8/13: $187

[Edited 2012-01-20 12:35:01]

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11352 times:

So no:

Allentown, Westchester County, Harrisburg, Charleston WV, Lexington, Knoxville, Huntsville, Sarasota (surprising), Miami, Bloomington.

Of those the only one I'm surprised by is Sarasota.



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User currently onlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6825 posts, RR: 32
Reply 21, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days ago) and read 11213 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 20):
Of those the only one I'm surprised by is Sarasota.

Sarasota shouldn't be that surprising since it's probably the most seasonal of all the Florida markets. I was surprised when WN added RSW.


User currently onlinetimberwolf24 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 576 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days ago) and read 11179 times:

Of the cities listed that are being kept I'm surprised at Branson, Mo. I'm surprised no one has mentioned that yet....


Living in LA, ORD/MDW will always be home!
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days ago) and read 11164 times:

Quoting timberwolf24 (Reply 22):
Of the cities listed that are being kept I'm surprised at Branson, Mo. I'm surprised no one has mentioned that yet....

Oddly it fits.



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User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1073 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 11 months 3 days ago) and read 11033 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 23):

It's paid for by the airport, is it not?



My post is my ideas and my opinions only, I do not represent the ideas or opinions of anyone else or company.
25 Kcrwflyer : I'm sure thats the case occasionally on every route, no matter how bad it's actually doing. Branson is airport/community subsidy + exclusive rights t
26 andytb77 : I'm not happy about them dropping SRQ. Was looking forward to the convenience of flying out of SRQ on WN instead of driving to TPA. I love TPA, but th
27 QANTAS747-438 : I was one of them! I couldn't and I still can't believe WN is keeping it! I'm floored. Guess I was wrong. I think WN was looking to serve Branson, ev
28 Post contains links andytb77 : According to this article, FL was responsible for 32% of the passenger load at SRQ (second largest behind DL), and carried 365,000 passengers last yea
29 glbltrvlr : This is really interesting. Not only does WN retain FNT, but also GRR. Fantastic from a GRR perspective, as the fares there were always priced at a p
30 FlyPNS1 : Whew...glad to see PNS survives. Curious to see what happens with ECP? I'm also curious to see if WN will keep ATL or drop it and connect PNS to other
31 GSPSPOT : My bet is that once the terms of the agreement with St. Joe are satisfied, WN will consolidate to PNS. Great for me, as my parents live in the PNS ar
32 glbltrvlr : After looking at the current Airtran route map, it will be interesting to see what adjustments are made for GRR and FNT. The current system is underst
33 FlyPNS1 : That wouldn't surprise me. Long-term PNS offers a larger catchment area and more business traffic. And just to seal the deal, I know PNS has been wil
34 beau222 : I agree whole Heartedly.
35 DCA-ROCguy : Not surprised that ROC is staying. The local paper has reported repeatedly over the years that the station performs well for AirTran. Given AirTran's
36 Post contains links United_fan : I saw it too on ROC's facebook page. http://www.monroecounty.gov/?q=node/7151 Yay,we'll hopefully see some 737's with some regularity! I'm hoping for
37 tjwgrr : I see GRR to BWI (2-3X), MDW (3x), MCO (1x) and maybe DEN (2x)
38 spinkid : I'm really sad to see them leaving HPN. There is B6 service to Florida, but you can't connect to anyplace midwest, south, or west coast now on an LCC
39 727LOVER : Well, FL did just fine here, THANK you !
40 BobLoblaw : No that's way way too many. More like 4 tops. Plus MCO and add 2 new MDW flights. I am surprised SRQ is closing but it is close to TPA. Also from all
41 Buddys747 : Wow these mergers really are benefitting the consumer, you lost my business WN!
42 tjwgrr : 110 air miles, but 180 not so great road miles and 3 or more vehicle windshield hours. Winter season is yet a whole different scenario with often hea
43 amccann : I am ecstatic to hear that both DSM and ICT will gain WN service! Both markets could desperately use the reduced fares and service, and having moved t
44 khpn : cant say I'm surprised, with WN working to get their foot in the door at EWR and LGA. Shame though, I would assume the FL flights were profitable, and
45 cmhsrq : They drop a station with 6 flights a day in the off season and 10 a day in season that according to AirTran are very profitable. Yet they keep numerou
46 CIDFlyer : Maybe F9 could move over to CID, we could use a low fare network airline. Interesting also that DSM is keeping SWA, will be interesting to see how th
47 flyerboy1990 : I am pleasantly surprised that my hometown airport CAK is sticking around. FL has a great history with the airport, but I just KNEW the bean counters
48 FilAmAirlines : I have a feeling because WN will maintain operations in FNT, expect my regional airport MBS to either shut down or be barely surviving as a commercial
49 flyboi4life : I'm guessing this is because from HSV to BHM its only about an hour drive. and HSV to ATL is only about 2 or 3 hours by car. Very happy about this. P
50 AVLAirlineFreq : I'm not so sure. If there's guaranteed money to be made, WN will be in ECP. And PNS. Two different markets.
51 knope2001 : Anybody have more information as to what it means that Seattle will have operations fully combined into Southwest? Does this simply mean in Seattle th
52 Pbb152 : Did they have your business in the first place? That was a pretty generic statement so I'm just curious. What about this merger has made them lose yo
53 ChiGB1973 : Me too. A flight attendant friend at WN told me it will be WN metal. Not sure when all this will take place. FL has been great to me in the past, loo
54 CIDFlyer : any guesses to what PNS will see? I will guess 3x ATL, 2x IAH, 2x MCO, 1xBNA maybe even 1x FLL or TPA
55 Post contains images FL787 : The second one. All WN people, planes, and code. That's always been the plan. Planes and people jump over the metaphorical fence piece by piece. FL i
56 Buddys747 : Maybe I should have said lost/loose my business. I have flown them on other trips down south, and also use/used there wholly owned subsidiary at my h
57 KaiGywer : I'm confused by this statement. This one I get: Center of the state: GRR and FNT are both towards the western and eastern edges, but close enough to
58 WA707atMSP : I think MBS will be OK as long as Dow Chemical is headquartered there. Dow has a lot of high yield expense account travellers who will not be willing
59 BobLoblaw : WN staying and possibly expanding in GRR and FNT will be the kiss of death for LAN. They will still have flights to DTW and probably ORD. But that is
60 CIDFlyer : oops I meant HOU, not IAH
61 kgaiflyer : In the DC area -- now that all three airports ( BWI, DCA, IAD) are served by FL/WN, which departures do you guys think should be moved from BWI to DC
62 planespotting : I feel like MCI will also be an option - lots of connecting opportunities there, and there is a ton of business and leisure travelers that go between
63 Flytravel : Since IAD is very small for WN and there is no southbound access there, maybe WN will consolidate IAD ops into DCA - although they would lose IAD-DEN
64 FlyPNS1 : FL received DCA-RSW as a special Air21 slot, so they can't simply dump it over to RDU. The UP is too sparsely populated for WN to care about. They ar
65 delta2ual : Well, my parents will be happy. I'm amazed WN will have DTW,FNT, and GRR. Will GRR and FNT be 717 stations? I can't see them flying a 737 GRR-MDW. I k
66 CODCAIAH : Oh, but MAF is the gateway to Big Bend National Park, Marfa, and the rest of West Texas. You don't know what you're missing.
67 joeljack : No way this will happen...it's only a 2.5 hr drive to KC, I do it several times per year and MCI airport is way north, closer to DSM and far from mos
68 atrude777 : So? MCO-RSW is even shorter, 133 miles, and Southwest flies it. DSM-MCI is farther at 164 miles. Distance will not be a factor if DSM-MCI is not flow
69 Post contains links Coronado : Now with the announcements on which FL stations are to be kept and which are going away, it may be illustrative to review the Boyd report published in
70 usflyguy : CRP has 4 flights a day... If a station has under a certain number of flights, per the contract, WN can outsource operations.
71 BobLoblaw : There is nothing that MCI brings to DSM as a connect point that MDW or DEN dont bring. Ok, OKC, DAL and a few others, but that isnt worth flying DSM-
72 atrude777 : They have 5 daily, did you look on a Saturday Schedule? As for the other stations, yes they are keeping stations that were lower then 8 (as per Air T
73 ERJ170 : I'mma cross my fingers for RDU-EYW.. hehehehehehee.. doubtful, but can't hurt..
74 panam330 : Very surprised to see SRQ go, honestly. Places like ROC and CAK are only natural fits into the existing WN network. Surprised to see PWM stay, too.
75 FlyASAGuy2005 : HSV is actually very price sensetive. For one because many people just drive and two, there are other options as far as carriers. The reason why HSV-
76 FilAmAirlines : You can also add my hometown airport of MBS in addition to LAN. You and I agree WN staying in FNT is the dagger for those airports yes?
77 kgaiflyer : Snowbirds spend a ton of money getting to warm places. As WS does in Canada, FL has always been able to exploit this.
78 milesrich : Dropping SRQ makes no sense. Southwest is a great operator and has been very profitable, but in the past few years, they made more money betting on fu
79 jfklganyc : I am surprised by HPN. Talking about handing more slots to jetblue! I wonder if it was based on the fact that there was no way to do that weird stand
80 DashTrash : Only example I looked up yesterday. Orlando didn't have much of a fare difference. There's a lot of revolt in the area against Southwest right now. L
81 Post contains images 727LOVER : I think your numberss are a TINYY bit high, more like 3/4 off season....7/8 high season......but still......for 6 years FL flew daily nonstop to MDW
82 FlyPNS1 : However, WN has higher costs than FL and yields into SRQ are quite low. I think that is the key problem.
83 diverdave : The business market is not that price sensitive, and hardly anybody drives to BNA or BHM for business travel. I don't even drive there for my leisure
84 727LOVER : Id like to see some figures on that. RSW, TPA, MCO, hell......LAS, arent low yield???? [quote=FlyPNS1,reply=82][/q, uote]
85 FlyASAGuy2005 : Sure, but again do you even know what the PDEW is between HSV and ATL or BNA and ATL for that matter? For Nashville I believe its less than 20 if I'm
86 Post contains links atrude777 : I do remember ATA, They had plans to add more service MIA and SRQ, but because of the CH 11 BK, they were forced to lay off Employees, and change the
87 diverdave : I probably should not have quoted your post. You are correct, the market HSV to ATL is small and many do drive to ATL rather than fly. I have done so
88 LV : Yeah, but there is a big difference... the drive between DSM and MCI vs. RSW and MCO is different. DSM-MCI is a short hop down I-35... heck my best f
89 WA707atMSP : Please read my reply 58, FilAm. I think MBS will do OK thanks to Dow Chemical's presence there. Dow's expense account employees, and the petroleum co
90 knope2001 : New FL schedule is out effective 8/12, complementary schedule to what Southwest is rolling out tomorrow. Things I've found of note effective 8/12 ATL-
91 toltommy : 193 miles according the google. Thats no short hop. Both markets will need to perform, or they'll be dropped in favor of BUF and CLE, respectively. W
92 joeljack : DSM-MKE goes to only Y class available on August 12th too. I would guess that means that it ends that day too???
93 timberwolf24 : Could it be August 12 MDW-CAK/DSM begins?
94 ADent : I did when I lived there as there was a huge difference at the time on HSV-CHI vs BNA-CHI. I also did BHM-DEN. If DL is keeping HSV fares reasonable
95 KaiGywer : I know, that's why I was confused by the statement he made...
96 Post contains images SurfandSnow : I'm absolutely shocked that WN decided to keep FNT. I expected them to consolidate Southeastern Michigan ops at DTW, especially after they were so qu
97 knope2001 : Possible but likely just not loaded with the full range of fares. Fairly often on the FL web site, schedule changes (including pushing a schedule out
98 ERJ170 : Where do I find the schedule? I looked all over but did not see it..
99 knope2001 : You have to go to the website and price individual markets for a date in the new period to see the new schedule -- I don't think there's any other so
100 CIDFlyer : I thought the new SWA schedule came out today, but it still only shows flights through August? Really interested to see what they are gonna do in the
101 usflyguy : Looks like they are adding MKE-SEA 1x daily; MKE-LAX, LGA-DEN, LGA-STL and LGA-MKE all 2x daily; ATL-ORF and ATL-SDF, 3x daily each and ATL-SEA 1x dai
102 stl1326 : I see they are also adding STL-SAT 2 daily flights.
103 usflyguy : At the moment, DL is charging $591.39 for an ATL-ORF rt on Aug 29/30, SWA's fare is $260.60... Let's see what happens.
104 atrude777 : Oops already mentioned above... So STL sees 2 new cities on the Southwest side, LGA and SAT. SAT surprised me but we have to be connected to CUN someh
105 knope2001 : As long as I mentioned these earlier on the AirTran side, and now we have the Southwest side, here's the net combined change between the mid-summer s
106 joeljack : Of the WN cities not served from ATL via WN or Airtran metal, looks like ORF and SDF are the 2nd and 3rd to be connected after AUS to ATL. WN cities n
107 CIDFlyer : I could see everything except maybe SMF, PDX, OMA and TUL connected to ATL when will we find out what cities DSM and GRR get?
108 Post contains links atrude777 : NEW SERVICE BEGINNING Aug. 12, 2012 (open for sale today): Southwest: Three new daily nonstop flights between Atlanta and Norfolk Three new daily nons
109 FlyPNS1 : The funny thing is that up until recently everyone was chiming in that WN was going to kill the ATL hub and only focus on O+D. But with 3x daily on AT
110 southwest737500 : Personally I think Tulsa would work. Delta is about 545 $ rt. that's crazy I think southwest could make it work with a 717 with 1 or 2 flights
111 HSVXJ : I was really disappointed to hear this news. I was hoping that since HSV service wasn't cut before this point, that they were seriously being consider
112 GSPSPOT : The only guarantee regarding ECP is the deal with St. Joe, which has a definite time limit. I stand by my reasoning.
113 Cubsrule : I assume they'll keep the FL certificate so they don't have to screw around with any of the slots or authorities and since the 712s are already on it
114 LV : I keep seeing all these posts of people saying nearly every new city will get 2 to 3 times a day to MDW. But MDW is already near capacity so it's not
115 FilAmAirlines : I respect your opinion yet I strongly disagree. People from the Great Lakes Bay Region, including those from Dow, would cough gas money for cheaper f
116 AVLAirlineFreq : That's my point. Who says there won't be another deal between WN and St. Joe? If there's truly guaranteed money to be made by WN, why wouldn't they s
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