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Happy Birthday MSP - Lindbergh Terminal Turns 50  
User currently offlineck8msp From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 74 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

Today 50 years ago, MSP terminal 1 (Lindbergh) was opened.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/msp...al-1-lindbergh-turns-50-2012-01-03

Here are some interesting items from the MAC PR:

"The $8.5 million terminal had 600,000 square feet and boasted 24 gates on two concourses, or "piers," when it opened in 1962. The facility could accommodate up to 14,000 travelers a day. It was designed for expansion and grew in phases as demand warranted.

Today, the terminal has 2.8 million square feet and 117 aircraft gates on seven concourses. Airlines carried about 33 million passengers to and from MSP last year, compared to fewer than 2 million in 1962. On average, some 80,000 people a day now fly through Terminal 1-Lindbergh."

"Of the seven airlines that served MSP when the terminal opened, only United Airlines still exists. The others -- Braniff, Eastern, North Central, Northwest, Ozark and Western -- have since succumbed to acquisition, merger or liquidation."

"In the mid-1990s, as many as 55 percent of travelers at MSP were connecting passengers, creating demand for more flights to more cities than the local market itself warranted. The continued strength of the hub accounts for the fact that people in the Twin Cities have access to more direct air service, per capita, than do residents of any other U.S. cities except Atlanta and Denver."

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User currently offlineRogerThat From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2285 times:

...And had a staring role in the movie "Airport" ... along with the Boeing 707 "stole the show."

United Airlines of today is really Trans Texas of yore, but who am I to correct MarketWatch.


User currently offlinesunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2058 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2251 times:

I worked at MSP from 1979 until 2006. I saw this airport grow to what it is today. My first flight was on a Northwest 707 with my grandparents to Florida around 1964/65. I miss being out there seeing all the people and all the planes, from the DC-3's on fishing charters to Canada , to NWA 747-400 and A330 flying overseas. Oh yea and all the Military planes mixed in.


Just an MSPAVGEEK
User currently offline28L28L From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2100 times:

Was that the terminal interior utilized in the movie "Airport"?

User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5566 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2064 times:

Quoting RogerThat (Reply 1):
...And had a staring role in the movie "Airport" ... along with the Boeing 707 "stole the show."



In "Airport" the airport was named Lincoln International Location was generic but somewhere in the snow belt. I remember at the end when Charlton Heston or one of the stars proclaimed Lincoln freed the slaves! BTW was there ever a city mentioned as the star airport where MSP was used?



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User currently offlinezanl188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2029 times:
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Quoting 28L28L (Reply 3):
Was that the terminal interior utilized in the movie "Airport"?

Yes, the Lindbergh terminal was used for all of the interior shots and many of the airfield shots as well. I can confirm this in the first person as my mother & I went out to the airport as extras the day they shot the crowd scene at the beginning of the flick - I'm in that crowd somewhere.

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 4):
I remember at the end when Charlton Heston or one of the stars proclaimed Lincoln freed the slaves!

Heston wasn't in "Airport", I believe that quote is from Dean Martin.



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User currently offlineStabilator From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 721 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1943 times:

Does anyone know when DL is implementing the new restaurants and catering in Lindbergh? I think there was an article in the Star Tribune before I returned to college on the subject, but I forgot to read it.

Also, what has happened to the MAC 20/20 plan? IIRC they were planning an expansion of both terminals 1 and 2 (the reason why terminal 2's parking lot is huge). There were also plans for an on-site hotel. I take it it's postponed?

The terminal has really come a long way since I was young.



So we beat on against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.
User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 4100 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

From Wikipedia:

" Production

Most of the filming was at Minneapolis-Saint Paul International Airport. A display in the terminal, with stills from the field and the film, says: "Minnesota's legendary winters attracted Hollywood here in 1969, when portions of the film Airport were shot in the terminal and on the field. The weather remained stubbornly clear, however, forcing the director to use plastic 'snow' to create the appropriate effect."

Only one Boeing 707 was used: N324F, a 707-349C leased from Flying Tiger Line. It sported an El Al cheatline over its bare metal finish, with the fictional Trans Global Airlines (TGA) titles and tail. "


User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1798 times:

Quoting Stabilator (Reply 6):
Does anyone know when DL is implementing the new restaurants and catering in Lindbergh? I think there was an article in the Star Tribune before I returned to college on the subject, but I forgot to read it.

OTG took over management of the G concourse concessions on 1/1/12. They are in currently in the process of remodeling and opening up the new concessions. It most likely will not be done until the summer.

Quoting Stabilator (Reply 6):
Also, what has happened to the MAC 20/20 plan? IIRC they were planning an expansion of both terminals 1 and 2 (the reason why terminal 2's parking lot is huge). There were also plans for an on-site hotel. I take it it's postponed?

It is still around but has been indefinitely postponed until the industry stabilizes and the economy and passenger traffic picks up. BTW, the Orange Ramp at T2 was not built specifically because of the MSP 20/20 plan. Believe it or not, there used to be days where all MSP (including T2/HHH parking) would fill up and they would have to turn people away. It still happens quite often at T1 and those passengers are diverted the the new T2 ramp.

Cheers


User currently offlineramprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1548 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1787 times:

Any old time pictures? When I try to click on the link, nothing happens? I would like to see the old United hangar, if the pictures are out there.

User currently offlineType-Rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1775 times:

Originally, the movie was supposed to be set at ORD. But the film makers couldn't get permission to use the terminal there so they moved to MSP and filmed it there.

Hence the reference to Lincoln as in Abraham Lincoln the president from Illinois. Chicago is also located in Illinois.


User currently offlineWALmsp From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1746 times:

Quoting zanl188 (Reply 5):
Heston wasn't in "Airport", I believe that quote is from Dean Martin.

True, but he was in the first sequel.

My father worked MSP from 1964-68 when he was transferred to ONT, then LAX. I spent many summers flying back to Minnesota and Western's gates at the end of the concourse. I don't remember which color it was designated...Red?



In memory of my Dad, Robert "Bob" Fenrich, WAL 1964-1979, MSP ONT LAX
User currently offlinesunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2058 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 1669 times:

Quoting WALmsp (Reply 11):
My father worked MSP from 1964-68 when he was transferred to ONT, then LAX. I spent many summers flying back to Minnesota and Western's gates at the end of the concourse. I don't remember which color it was designated...Red?

BLUE, Now "E" Red was NC/OZ/TWA. NC/RC moved to GREEN, Now A/B/C.

Western had the whole end of the concourse and then gave 2 gates to AA (or MAC did) when they reduced flights back in the 90's?? WAL also had there club, but don't remember the name. Western had a hanger located where the A/B/C gates are now. Torn down in the late 90's or early 2000 for terminal expansion. P.O. and Car Rentals moved at the same time.



Just an MSPAVGEEK
User currently offlineRogerThat From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1628 times:

For more info on MSP's starring role in "Airport" and other good NWA historical accounts, check this out:

Lady SkyWriter


User currently offlinetharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1867 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1590 times:

Quoting ck8msp (Thread starter):

"people in the Twin Cities have access to more direct air service, per capita, than do residents of any other U.S. cities except Atlanta and Denver."

how's that being calculated? doesn't seem obvious to me.


User currently offlineWALmsp From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1419 times:

Quoting sunking737 (Reply 12):
BLUE, Now "E" Red was NC/OZ/TWA. NC/RC moved to GREEN, Now A/B/C.

Western had the whole end of the concourse and then gave 2 gates to AA (or MAC did) when they reduced flights back in the 90's?? WAL also had there club, but don't remember the name. Western had a hanger located where the A/B/C gates are now. Torn down in the late 90's or early 2000 for terminal expansion. P.O. and Car Rentals moved at the same time.

Hello sunking737! Should have known you had this info. Wasn't there an GOLD in there somewhere? My summer trips usually involved arriving on Western, then going clear around the horseshoe to the other end to catch a North Central CV- 580 to Faimont.

If I remember correctly, the name of the club was Horizon. I met ex- LA Dodger Maury Wills in there when I was about ten. I thought the hangar was torn down earlier…

How many gates did Western have at their peak? I seem to remember 5 or 6.



In memory of my Dad, Robert "Bob" Fenrich, WAL 1964-1979, MSP ONT LAX
User currently offlinesunking737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2058 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1368 times:

Hey WAL707, Gold was funded by NWA. WAL had gates 50 - 55 IIRC. Horizon?? not sure. Funny I can recall many things but not the stupid club name lol. WAL had its own commissary downstairs for everything but food. They kept the COORS under lock and key. WAL was only airline that served COORS back then. I remember the 707/720B with the baggage pods. MSP saw all of WAL planes with 2 DC-10 RON every night.


Just an MSPAVGEEK
User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1368 times:

Quoting WALmsp (Reply 15):

Gold is the G. Blue is E, Red is F, Green is A/B, C and D.

Above D concourse or "D Pod" is the observation area where you go to take all those iconic shots that you see on here with all the long line of red tails and now Delta Onward and Upward Widgets.

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 8):

The perm OTG restaurants aren't going to be in place until next year. The temporary stuff was done in just over a week but some permanent shops will be done by S11 but the restaurants complete with the IPADS won't be complete until early 2012.

Quoting Stabilator (Reply 6):

Quite a waste, the whole plan for the on site airport. Not the idea itself but the timing because NW tore down that hanger on the end of the G across from G22 and that's where part of the structure was suppose to stand. Now, all it can be used for is hardstands and a/c cleaning and light MTC.



What gets measured gets done.
User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3490 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (2 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1242 times:

Quoting ck8msp (Thread starter):
The continued strength of the hub accounts for the fact that people in the Twin Cities have access to more direct air service, per capita, than do residents of any other U.S. cities except Atlanta and Denver."

I question this statistic. I think CLT has definitely got to have more direct air service, per capita, than MSP, although MSP still ranks in the top 5, I'm sure, along with SLC, which is also high in that regard.

Jeremy


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