captainstefan From United States of America, joined May 2007, 338 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4141 times:
Well they pushed it at about 1453 and lo and behold, it's back at the gate with the #1 engine cowling open. Makes me lean toward a maintenance diversion. I believe I see some DL equipment (towbar, container loader) over there too.
Maybe they were just practicing pushing it back, since they rarely see anything bigger than 738s?
captainstefan From United States of America, joined May 2007, 338 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3873 times:
Just watched it take off from Rwy 26L at 1715 local time, so it was here about 8 hours total. When it came back in after the initial pushback, they unloaded the rear cargo compartment and reloaded it about 10 minutes later. I saw 1 LD8 and two LD2s. No idea what was up front, but I did see the loader lined up earlier in the day.
DLATLOpsSup From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 78 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3735 times:
We did have a good laugh with the crew about taking pictures of the DL equipment on the gate and them ending up on the internet tonight . They had a DL container loader, bag tug, tow bar, and transporters on the gate.
I believe it was initially a MTC deal with the nbr one engine. The ground crew told me they were taxiing it to DL North for an engine run up, so that explains the 1450 push. They brought it back after, loaded it up, and its gone on to ORD now.
I saw it as well. First saw it as i was driving past the airport . I took notice of it since it is obviously larger that the MD80/B737 that AA usually has in ATL. Though it was a 757 was at first glance, but once i got a closer look I can see it was a B767.
Quoting DLATLOpsSup (Reply 9): I believe it was initially a MTC deal with the nbr one engine. The ground crew told me they were taxiing it to DL North for an engine run up, so that explains the 1450 push. They brought it back after, loaded it up, and its gone on to ORD now.
Was the repairs done with AA AMT's or did they contact DL and ask them to assist? Does AA have their own AMT's in ATL?Even if they do I doubt they are familiar with the B767. I'd imagine that you would need a few DL agents as I doubt AA ground handling agents are familiar with widebody operations? Is AA ATL operations contact or in house employees?
I hope DL gave AA a good neighbor discount on services provided considering it appears to be a genuine Mechanical diversion, and you never know when the roles will be reversed with a DL 767/777 in MIA/DFW with an unscheduled diversion due to MTC.
What?? Let's jus *say* AA has mechanics in Atlanta, what makes you think they're not familiar with 767s? Just because the station doesn't see them regularly? They are still mechanics and would be trained on a wide range of equipment. Its also not too far fetched for them to fly in SMEs from DFW, MIA or ORD. Secondly as to the ramp, not a big deal. An airplane is an airplane is an airplane. You work around them long enough and you will find that at the end of the day they are all the same. All use the same ground power cord and conditioned air hookups. At DL, you are trained on all a/c and although I can't say for certain, I'm sure AA does the same. Look at stations that get weird diversions. Someone will be trained to work it. There will be high time guys there in Atlanta that's worked all types in the past and equipment doesn't change. Most is universal for this very reason. A brand new container loader can handle a 30 year old container.
CAM2:"Lightning coming out of that one." CAM1: "What?"
aviationbuff08 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 346 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 924 times:
Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 12): as to the ramp, not a big deal. An airplane is an airplane is an airplane. You work around them long enough and you will find that at the end of the day they are all the same.
Well actually I do work around airplanes everyday. Yes they are all the same as they all have wings, wheels, windows and cargo holds. As far as placing the chocks, power and conditioned air, that's the same regardless of type.
Airplanes fall into either a narrow body or a wide body type aircraft. With the equipment and procedures used to unload or load a narrow body being night and day different than you would a wide body aircraft. I know this first hand because within the last 8 months I went from working CRJ200/700/900, B737, B757, and MD-88 to working MD-88, B737, B757, B767. Working the B767 for the first time was an enlightening experience from the previous type airplanes I have worked on.
The point i was trying to make was that AA might not have agents in ATL familiar with the B767 as it is not even an occasional visitor to ATL for AA. Unless of course someone has worked for AA in another location that operates the B767.
Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 12): Look at stations that get weird diversions. Someone will be trained to work it.
I wouldn't place bets on this in LAS. I do remember reading that a DL MD-88 made an unscheduled diversion to TUS a few years ago. I believe it was TUS, if not it was some other city in the southwest United States that doesn't see DL's MD88 regularly scheduled. Long story short here was the ground agents was attempting to lower the aft stairs and instead ended up jettisoning the tail cone section of the aircraft.