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SIA A380 At JFK?  
User currently offlinecorinthians From United States of America, joined May 2008, 337 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9674 times:

Looking at flightaware, it says a SIA A380 just took off to FRA. Since when did they start flying that here?

[Edited 2012-01-23 18:38:22]

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User currently offlineAngMoh From Singapore, joined Nov 2011, 479 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9666 times:

Quoting corinthians (Thread starter):
Looking at flightaware, it says a SIA A380 just took off to FRA. Since when did they start flying that here?

Since 15 January 2012


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24906 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 9502 times:

SQ press release.
http://www.singaporeair.com/jsp/cms/...UK/press_release_news/ne120116.jsp


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24880 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 9494 times:

Announced last fall -

SQ Put A380 On SIN-FRA-JFK-FRA-SIN (by LH422 Sep 19 2011 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offlinemoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2301 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9371 times:

The first JFK arrival was Monday morning, January 16...

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Airliners-and-Airport-Spotting/Kennedy-Airport/i-m7hHhZc/0/L/JM201201169V-SKK003-L.jpg



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User currently offlineB738FlyUIA From Switzerland, joined Dec 2009, 547 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8833 times:
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Quoting corinthians (Thread starter):

Looking at flightaware, it says a SIA A380 just took off to FRA. Since when did they start flying that here?

Or check this: Last SQ 744 Flight Coming Up! (by B738FlyUIA Jan 11 2012 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8556 times:

Didn't SQ fly their A380's to JFK before or am I mistaking them with EK? So now SQ, EK, KE, LH and AF fly the A380 to JFK? Do all these airlines fly the A380 to JFK on a daily basis? Which airline is the next airline to use the A380 to JFK? MH maybe?

A388


User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 8532 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 6):
So now SQ, EK, KE, LH and AF fly the A380 to JFK?

Yup! LH is mostly gone for the winter I believe though.

Pretty impressive for JFK...


User currently offlinemoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2301 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8461 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 6):
Didn't SQ fly their A380's to JFK before or am I mistaking them with EK?

No, this was the first time for SQ.

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 7):
LH is mostly gone for the winter I believe though.

Correct, it will return in a couple of months. I think they did send a A380 a few days around Christmas, but I don't know that for a fact. The others are all daily.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8295 times:

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 7):
Pretty impressive for JFK...

Indeed very impressive. So next to LHR, JFK is the second airport with the most variety for the A380.

Quoting moose135 (Reply 8):
Quoting washingtonian (Reply 7):
LH is mostly gone for the winter I believe though.

Correct, it will return in a couple of months. I think they did send a A380 a few days around Christmas, but I don't know that for a fact. The others are all daily.

Thanks, so the LH A380 will return for S12(?)

A388


User currently offlineHirnie From Germany, joined May 2004, 593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8265 times:

Quoting moose135 (Reply 8):
I think they did send a A380 a few days around Christmas

They send one from MUC for a week or so around Dec. 6th last year. I think is was kind of a PR stunt because they wanted to be first with the A380 out of MUC before EK did. In the end EK came to MUC earlier as planned and beat LH....


User currently offlineJohnJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1656 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 8166 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 9):
Indeed very impressive. So next to LHR, JFK is the second airport with the most variety for the A380

Heathrow gets Emirates, Singapore, Qantas A380s - what else? A check of the photo database shows only these three carriers with LHR A380s ops, which if true means JFK has the most variety of A380 operators. LHR probably has more total operations, as I know EK at least is multiple times daily.


User currently offlineflyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 1016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8071 times:

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 7):
Yup! LH is mostly gone for the winter I believe though.

Both FRA-JFK flights are currently scheduled for B744s for the summer, subject to change though. Maybe a B748i by then.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8065 times:

Quoting JohnJ (Reply 11):
Heathrow gets Emirates, Singapore, Qantas A380s - what else? A check of the photo database shows only these three carriers with LHR A380s ops, which if true means JFK has the most variety of A380 operators. LHR probably has more total operations, as I know EK at least is multiple times daily.

You are definately right. I need to correct myself, I see LHR become the number 1 airport for A380. Currently it is JFK as the number 1, yes.

A388


User currently offlineSemaex From Germany, joined Nov 2009, 823 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7909 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 13):
You are definately right. I need to correct myself, I see LHR become the number 1 airport for A380. Currently it is JFK as the number 1, yes.

I think DXB beats them all. Just kidding.
True, JFK is at the top and LHR comes close, but don't forget that HKG is somewhere on that list too and FRA is not too far away either.



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User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3937 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7195 times:
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I would be curious to see what kind of load SQ has between FRA and JFK on its A388. This tag-on is one of the worst performing B744 routes for SQ and would have been downgauged a long time ago, were it not for the fact that the same aircraft is packed to the rafters between FRA and SIN.

I was surprised when SQ announced it would use the A388 on the route. I guess its yield specialists have figured the extra income from the SIN-FRA leg makes up for the low yield on a FRA-JFK route that doesn't deserve more than a B772.



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User currently offlinecontrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6796 times:

Wasn't SQ thinking about doing a 777 at first from the 747?


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User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3741 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6692 times:
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Quoting JohnJ (Reply 11):
Heathrow gets Emirates, Singapore, Qantas A380s - what else?

Thai will get it soon, sometimes later this year. So I won't be surprised if they fly their first A380 or at least one of their first two A380s on their BKK-LHR flight.
And don't forget that later this decade, BA will fly it.

Quoting JohnJ (Reply 11):
which if true means JFK has the most variety of A380 operators.

Yes, you can spot four different A380s in one day. LAX also sees a lot of A380s: QF, KE and SQ. Not sure about EK.



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User currently offlineflyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 1016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6486 times:

Quoting American 767 (Reply 17):
Not sure about EK.

No, DXB-LAX is B77Ws. I believe it's a bit too far for the A380, at least without payload restrictions.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24906 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6432 times:

Quoting Semaex (Reply 14):
Quoting A388 (Reply 13):
You are definately right. I need to correct myself, I see LHR become the number 1 airport for A380. Currently it is JFK as the number 1, yes.

I think DXB beats them all. Just kidding.
True, JFK is at the top and LHR comes close, but don't forget that HKG is somewhere on that list too and FRA is not too far away either.

Are you sure it's not DXB? With 20 A380s now in service I would have guessed DXB would be #1. Would be interesting to see the weekly total for all airports with A380 service.


User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6293 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 19):
Are you sure it's not DXB? With 20 A380s now in service I would have guessed DXB would be #1. Would be interesting to see the weekly total for all airports with A380 service.

In terms of A380 movements yes maybe, but how many other airlines serve DXB with the A380? Im not sure, but they are talking about the airlines that serve 1 airport with the A380, and I would think JFK would be number one and LHR second



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User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8232 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5735 times:

Quoting blueflyer (Reply 15):
I was surprised when SQ announced it would use the A388 on the route. I guess its yield specialists have figured the extra income from the SIN-FRA leg makes up for the low yield on a FRA-JFK route that doesn't deserve more than a B772.

I was surprised too but what other options do they have to serve JFK from Europe? FRA is by the the best option and for scheduling purposes it has to be done with the same aircraft that comes from SIN. The only one that meets that criteria is the A380. They did try MXP-JFK, IIRC, but were denied the rights. I always thought that if they were allowed MXP-JFK that they would drop FRA-JFK.


User currently offlinerichiemo From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4293 times:

Are you allowed to just fly the JFK-FRA route or do you have to continue on to SIN? I have to go to Milan in March and I'm thinking, do two tix, JFK to FRA on the SIN 388 and separate flight FRA to Milan on DLH.

User currently offlineemirates202 From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 237 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3597 times:

Quoting flyingalex (Reply 18):

Actually, LAX is serviced a 77W, and a 77L. The 77W is the morning arrival/departure out of LAX, and the 77L is the afternoon/ evening arrival/departure out of LAX.



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User currently offlineemirates202 From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 237 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3594 times:

Quoting richiemo (Reply 22):

Yes, you are able to purchase just JFK-FRA-JFK.



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25 mindscape : Hold on, what about CDG? Besides AF, you can see EK, SQ, KE (in wait of more frames to be regular?) , and CZ has announced CDG to be its first intern
26 flyingalex : Yes, SQ have full fifth-freedom rights on the route. One small problem - SQ's FRA-JFK flight departs fairly early in the morning (08:30 am). The earl
27 A388 : Agreed, we are talking about number of airlines operating the A380, not the number of movements. Movement-wise DXB probably ranks number 1 in A380 mo
28 flyingalex : I would tend to agree. The two commercial operators who are supposed to get their first A380s this year are Malaysia and Thai. Both have said they wa
29 A388 : Add to that list, QR, EY and practically all the other A380 airlines (except for the obvious airlines too close to LHR (Air France/Lufthansa/Transaer
30 airbazar : I suspect the loads aren't great and the yields are even worse. SQ has never been able to attract sufficient customers on this route, especially the
31 slinky09 : AF operates an A380 to DXB. Indeed, many airlines will fly the A380 to LHR and not least BA which will, I foresee, end up with 25-30 of them. That sa
32 Semaex : Not the anwer to his inquiry though. He wants to fly SQ A380 the other way around: JFK-FRA (arrival 10:00), making it a good deal when further travel
33 Post contains images flyingalex : I know it works fine in that direction, which is why I didn't mention it, but he'll probably have to go home at some point, won't he? I took his comm
34 Post contains images A388 : Thanks slinky09, I wasn't aware AF operated the A388 to DXB. It's a new service I see and operating at night. That's why I probably haven't seen any
35 Post contains images BommerJan : Yes full 5th freedom rights between FRA and JFK and v.v. Dates back to the times when LH required 5th freedom rights between SIN and SYD/MEL for their
36 DTWLAX : I would say LHR is joint second with LAX at this time. LAX has QF, SQ and KE as of now. AF is starting service this summer to LAX. I am not sure abou
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