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Airbus And Boeing Orders 2012 Part 1  
User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 57372 times:

A new year, so time for a new thread regarding Airbus and Boeing orders

Airbus

Firm:
?

Pending:
Norwegian: MoU for 100 320neo

http://www.airbus.com/no_cache/newse...n-commits-to-100-a320neo-aircraft/

Boeing

Firm:
Jet Airways: 17 737-800
Norwegian: 100 737-8max; 22 787-800
Virgin Australia: 1 737-800
Unidentified Customer: 10 787

Pending:
?

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2111

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User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 57369 times:

Thank you someone83 for this thread.

Quoting someone83 (Thread starter):
Pending:
Norwegian: MoU for 100 320neo

Huh?
 Wow!
When did this happen?
How could I miss this?

[Edited 2012-01-25 00:05:11]

User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 57332 times:

Quoting Chiad (Reply 1):
Huh?
 
When did this happen?
How could I miss this?
Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever! (by g2scandinavia Jan 24 2012 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlineindia1 From India, joined Aug 2011, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 57216 times:
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I know nothing from Airbus on this, but should'nt you count the CX A350s, albeit with a question mark?

User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3393 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 57226 times:

Airbus

Firm:
?

Pending:
Norwegian: MoU for 100 320neo

CX MoU for 6 x A359


User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 57082 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 2):
Norwegian Placing Europes Largest Order Ever! (by g2scandinavia Jan 24 2012 in Civil Aviation)

OMG ...
  
Thanks for the info!!!


User currently offlineindia1 From India, joined Aug 2011, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 56524 times:
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Add 2 more A33Fs for Etihad, as of today

User currently offlinejuanchito From Guatemala, joined Nov 2000, 1189 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 56391 times:

Quoting someone83 (Thread starter):
Norwegian: 100 737-8max; 22 787-800

A small correction.
100 737-8MAX and 22 737-800 not the 787-8

Juanchito



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User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 56367 times:

Quoting juanchito (Reply 7):
A small correction.
100 737-8MAX and 22 737-800 not the 787-8

You're right, seems like I just hit the wrong button  


User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 56106 times:

AviancaTaca firms Airbus order:

18x A320
33x A320 NEO

http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/new...or-51-eco-efficient-a320-aircraft/


User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 56041 times:

Quoting flood (Reply 9):
AviancaTaca firms Airbus order:

18x A320
33x A320 NEO

Oh no.
Now you've have to update your charts again flood.
 


User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 55996 times:

Quoting Chiad (Reply 10):

I don't mind updating the sales chart 


User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 55589 times:

Response removed to keep this thread clear.


Hamlet69

[Edited 2012-01-26 14:07:11]


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User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 55306 times:

AviancaTaca har firmed up 33 A320neo and 18 A320 according to Airbus

http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/new...or-51-eco-efficient-a320-aircraft/


User currently offlineolle From Sweden, joined Feb 2007, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 55184 times:

was not the norvegian 320 firm?

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31055 posts, RR: 87
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 55164 times:
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Quoting olle (Reply 14):
was not the norvegian 320 firm?

Airbus announced it as an MoU, but Norwegian announced it as firm. So perhaps Norwegian considers it firm, but has not yet signed the formal sales contract with Airbus which would make it so in Airbus' eyes (and formal accounting rules).

We have a similar situation with AF/KL. They have signed the sales contract for the 787, but have not signed it for the A350. So Boeing lists the 787 planes as firm, and Airbus considers the A350 planes as MoUs.


User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 54695 times:

Spirit has firmed their 30 A320s (OEO):
http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/new...family-order-including-45-a320neo/


User currently onlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12569 posts, RR: 46
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 54529 times:
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Air Astana seems to have ordered 6 x A320 and 4 x 767.  Wow!http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...on-airbus-boeing-embraer-jets.html


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User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 54452 times:

Quoting flood (Reply 16):
Spirit has firmed their 30 A320s (OEO):

And the A320 OEO backlog is about 2200 frames, which will sustain full production way into 2018.

Quoting scbriml (Reply 17):
Air Astana seems to have ordered 6 x A320 and 4 x 767.  

Here it says 3 B787 also.   
http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-eco/201...mande-pour-boeingairbusembraer.php


User currently offlinerotating14 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 675 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 54326 times:

Quoting scbriml (Reply 17):
http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=haber&ArticleID=85192 (In English)

That 767 keeps chugging along!!!!    I wonder what type of B767 and B787 they ordered???


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 53844 times:

Air Namibia orders 2 A319

http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/new...ds-fleet-with-order-for-two-a319s/


User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4161 posts, RR: 36
Reply 21, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 53713 times:

Garuda Indonesia:

+ 10 B737-800
+ 15 A330-200
+ 25 "narrowbodies"
+ 18 "regional jets"

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...roval-purchase-more-airplanes.html



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User currently offlineDaysleeper From UK - England, joined Dec 2009, 844 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 53588 times:

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 21):
Garuda Indonesia:

+ 10 B737-800
+ 15 A330-200
+ 25 "narrowbodies"
+ 18 "regional jets"

That's very curious. I wonder why they wont name the 25 narrowbodys?

If I remember correctly, last year they ordered 15 A320 OEO's and 10 NEO's with 25 options. So perhaps the 25 listed are the options?

Also, unless I am missing something the link you provided says they have ordered:
  • 20 Boeing 737-800NGs
  • 10 Boeing 777-300 ERs
  • 21 Airbus 330-200s
  • 25 narrow-body planes
  • 18 sub-100 seat jets


User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3393 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 53585 times:

Interesting that we've seen a few orders this year where a carrier has ordered both the A320 and the 737, I wonder if this is a symptom of the scarity of slots for both "old engine option" versions of these birds so airlines can't get all they want from one OEM.

User currently offlineAsiaflyer From Singapore, joined May 2007, 1137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 53392 times:

Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 22):
Also, unless I am missing something the link you provided says they have ordered:
20 Boeing 737-800NGs
10 Boeing 777-300 ERs
21 Airbus 330-200s
25 narrow-body planes
18 sub-100 seat jets

That's correct.
The first 6 A332 was ordered in July 2010 and the 10 77W + 10 738s was also from an earlier order.



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 25, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 54019 times:

Through the end of January 2012, Boeing has delivered 38 airplanes, at least 1 of every type.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/...ReportType=CurYrDelv&pageid=m15520

The Boeing order book, through the end of January shows 148 airplanes ordered, including 140 B-737NG/MAX, 10 B-787, no B-767 or B-747, and -2 B-777.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm

Through the end of January 2012, Airbus shows a total of 91 airplane orders and 37 deliveries.

"Airbus began 2012 on a high note with new bookings for 91 jetliners – including two significant A320 Family contracts and a repeat order for A330-200F freighters, while delivering a total of 37 aircraft during the month."

http://www.airbus.com/company/market/orders-deliveries/


User currently offlineiceberg210 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 147 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 53893 times:

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 19):
I wonder what type of B767 and B787 they ordered???

I would guess 767-300ER's and 787-8's. but that's just a guess, albeit a fairly safe one on the 767 side of things :p

In other 767 news in the latest Boeing update we see that those last two unidentified orders for 767's made in December were identified this week for LAN. They just keep picking them up, in ones and twos.... Also note that ANA has only one left on order. Don't know if we've seen the last of their orders or not, but I'd assume if they're going to continue adding them in ones and twos, we may see another ANA order fairly soon....



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User currently offlineDaysleeper From UK - England, joined Dec 2009, 844 posts, RR: 1
Reply 27, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 54634 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 25):
Through the end of January 2012, Boeing has delivered 38 airplanes, at least 1 of every type.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/...rtType=CurYrDelv&pageid=m15520

The Boeing order book, through the end of January shows 148 airplanes ordered, including 140 B-737NG/MAX, 10 B-787, no B-767 or B-747, and -2 B-777.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm

Through the end of January 2012, Airbus shows a total of 91 airplane orders and 37 deliveries.

"Airbus began 2012 on a high note with new bookings for 91 jetliners – including two significant A320 Family contracts and a repeat order for A330-200F freighters, while delivering a total of 37 aircraft during the month."

The Norwegian order isn't showing on the Airbus spreadsheet yet, but it is firm. So the total orders for Airbus is actually 191 to Boeing's 148 - Which considering this is supposed to be the year of the Max is incredibly impressive.


User currently offlinewimdemeester From Netherlands, joined Dec 2011, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 54436 times:

Breakdown for AviancaTaca Holding is 27 x A319, 20 x A320 and 4 x A321 of which 33 are Neo and the remaining the currently produced versions. Who knows which ones are Neo?

User currently offlineastuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 10068 posts, RR: 97
Reply 29, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 54435 times:
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Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 25):
Airbus began 2012 on a high note with new bookings for 91 jetliners – including two significant A320 Family contracts

55 current generation A320's in the first month...... there must still be some slots left..

Rgds


User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4161 posts, RR: 36
Reply 30, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 54175 times:

Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 22):
Also, unless I am missing something the link you provided says they have ordered:
20 Boeing 737-800NGs
10 Boeing 777-300 ERs
21 Airbus 330-200s
25 narrow-body planes
18 sub-100 seat jets

Correct, I had only mentioned the new orders as the others have already been reflected in the 2010/2011 figures.



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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 31, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 53564 times:

The following orders were firm with Airbus at 31/1 according to their latest update:

Air Namibia: 2 A319
ALC: 1 A330-300
AviancaTaca: 27 A319, 20 A320, 4 A321
BOC Aviation: 2 A320
Etihad: 2 A330-200F
Spirit Airlines_ 30 A320
Tibet Airlines: 3 A319


User currently offlineAsiaflyer From Singapore, joined May 2007, 1137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 53392 times:

Skymark Airlines orders 6 A330-300. Delivery from 2014.
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...ymark-orders-six-a330-300s-367934/



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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 33, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 53322 times:

Anyone has time to collect the various orders in January into firm and pending categories?

User currently offlineJack From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 53227 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 33):
Anyone has time to collect the various orders in January into firm and pending categories?

The outstanding pendng orders from 2010 should also be carried over. I have taken PanAm's last list for Airbus (sorry I have not got the time to do Boeing as well) and added a few thoughts at the end regarding whether they are still valid.

AirAsia - 100 A320neo* - Not clear if this is really a pending order - delete from list?
AF/KLM - 25 A350-900 - still pending
Air Lease Corporation - 20 A320neo, 16 A321neo - still pending
ALAFCO - 30 A320neo, - just options or about to be firmed?
American Airlines - 130 Mix of A319 / A321oeo - not all will be new orders, plus in Ch11
American Airlines - 130 A321 neo- was firm now pending again, plus in Ch11
China Eastern - 15 A330 - unclear
Transaero - 4 A380-800 - still pending


I think we should wait for PanAm to provide us with he usual updates when he has time.


User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 35, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 52991 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 33):
Anyone has time to collect the various orders in January into firm and pending categories?

I'll do what I can as far as the known quantities (firm & changes):

Orders


Airbus
Air Namibia - 2 A319
Air Lease Corp. - 1 A330-300
AviancaTaca - 18 A32X, 33 A32X Neo. (Airbus shows 27 A319's, 20 A320's & 4 A321's. However, the individual breakdown between Oeo and Neo is not known at this time)
BOC Aviation - 2 A320
Etihad Airways - 2 A330-200F
Spirit Airlines - 30 A320
Tibet Airlines - 3 A319
Total - 91


Boeing
Jet Airways - 17 737-800
Norwegian Air Shuttle - 22 737-800, 100 737-MAX
Virgin Australia - 1 737-800
Unidentified - 10 787-9
Total - 150


Changes


Airbus
Conversions:

Air Lease Corp. - 1 A320 to 1 A321
GECAS - 8 A320 to 8 A321
Spirit Airlines - 13 A319 to 13 A320

Cancellations:

none

Identified:

none

Boeing
Conversions:

none

Cancellations:

Jet Airways - 2 777-300ER

Identified:

Air France/KLM Group - 25 787-9 (from Dec. 2011)
Japan Airlines - 1 737-800 (from Aug. 2010)
LAN Airlines - 2 767-300ER (from Dec. 2011)


Regards,

Hamlet69



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User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13152 posts, RR: 100
Reply 36, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 52898 times:
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Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 22):
That's very curious. I wonder why they wont name the 25 narrowbodys?

IMHO, the CS300 would be a good fit for Garuda's fleet to replace older 737s. However, that is a little stretch, but not much. IMHO, I suspect much is dependent upon the progress of negotiations with Bombardier.

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 19):
That 767 keeps chugging along!!!!

Doesn't everyone realize that this is beginning to rip a hole in the space-time continuum? Or at least in the 7-across cross section discussions...

Actually, I suspect Boeing's recent work to cut 767 manufacturing costs coupled with large backlogs of the 787 and A350 are giving the type a chance.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 37, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 52492 times:

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2129

Boeing has now firmed Lion Air gigantic order for 29 737-900ER and 201 737-Max


User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 52368 times:

ALAFCO orders additional 35 A320neo

http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/new...afco-orders-additional-35-a320neo/


User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3393 posts, RR: 9
Reply 39, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 52383 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 37):
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2129

Boeing has now firmed Lion Air gigantic order for 29 737-900ER and 201 737-Max

Crazy, they're nearly at 500 firm orders for the year on the 14th of Feb!


User currently offlinerotating14 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 675 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 51703 times:

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...%5C02%5C15%5Cstory_15-2-2012_pg5_6


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31055 posts, RR: 87
Reply 41, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 51406 times:
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Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 35):
Unidentified - 10 787-9

CNBC says JL is the customer - http://www.cnbc.com/id/46393751

Makes sense, as they have as of yet ordered the 787-9 and they need a 777-200 family replacement.


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6926 posts, RR: 63
Reply 42, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 51380 times:

Makes sense, as they have as of yet ordered the 787-9 and they need a 777-200 family replacement.[/quote]

Did you see this?

JAL Orders 10 789s, Converts 10 788s (by flood Feb 15 2012 in Civil Aviation)
[quote=Stitch,reply=41]CNBC says JL is the customer - http://www.cnbc.com/id/46393751


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 43, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 50926 times:

Only the 10 787-9 for JAL was being firmed up when Boeing puplished their weekly update yesterday, so will still rank the Lion Air order as MoU


Orders


Airbus
Air Namibia - 2 A319
Air Lease Corp. - 1 A330-300
AviancaTaca - 18 A32X, 33 A32X Neo. (Airbus shows 27 A319's, 20 A320's & 4 A321's. However, the individual breakdown between Oeo and Neo is not known at this time)
BOC Aviation - 2 A320
Etihad Airways - 2 A330-200F
Spirit Airlines - 30 A320
Tibet Airlines - 3 A319
Total - 91


Boeing
Jet Airways - 17 737-800
Norwegian Air Shuttle - 22 737-800, 100 737-MAX
Virgin Australia - 1 737-800
Japan Airlines - 10 787-9
Total - 150


Changes


Airbus
Conversions:

Air Lease Corp. - 1 A320 to 1 A321
GECAS - 8 A320 to 8 A321
Spirit Airlines - 13 A319 to 13 A320

Cancellations:

none

Identified:

none

Boeing
Conversions:
Japan Airlines: 10 787-8 to 787-9

none

Cancellations:

Jet Airways - 2 777-300ER

Identified:

Air France/KLM Group - 25 787-9 (from Dec. 2011)
Japan Airlines - 1 737-800 (from Aug. 2010)
LAN Airlines - 2 767-300ER (from Dec. 2011)


User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 50704 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 43):
Only the 10 787-9 for JAL was being firmed up when Boeing puplished their weekly update yesterday, so will still rank the Lion Air order as MoU

Hmmm..
I have to say that the Lion Air order is strange.
This is the second time it has been fanfare as firm (at least by Lion Air).


User currently offlinesirtoby From Germany, joined Nov 2007, 380 posts, RR: 22
Reply 45, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 50678 times:

Quoting Chiad (Reply 44):
This is the second time it has been fanfare as firm (at least by Lion Air).

I guess it was firmed after February 14th (although the PR is from feb 14th) , so it will probably appear in the update next week


User currently onlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3575 posts, RR: 27
Reply 46, posted (2 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 50363 times:
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Quoting Chiad (Reply 44):
I have to say that the Lion Air order is strange.
This is the second time it has been fanfare as firm (at least by Lion Air).

Boeing may be waiting for EXIM Bank approval... seems the bank needed to raise it's limits, and I believe that was done yesterday.


User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 47, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 49878 times:

Quoting kanban (Reply 46):
seems the bank needed to raise it's limits

Now did they now....
 

Well ... Boeing should have another update today actually. Lets hope the order is included this time.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31055 posts, RR: 87
Reply 48, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 49831 times:
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Quoting Chiad (Reply 47):
Well ... Boeing should have another update today actually. Lets hope the order is included this time.

Boeing updates on a Thursday.  

Hopefully we will see PIA's five 777-300ERs, as well, as that order is now being reported as firm by Marketwatch.


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 49, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 49317 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 48):
Hopefully we will see PIA's five 777-300ERs, as well, as that order is now being reported as firm by

No, not firmed by Boeing this week.

On the other hand, 29 737-900ER and 201 737MAX for Lieon Air was firmed up yesterday

And according to Flighglobal, AIr New Zealand has converted two 787-9 options, but I'm not sure if these are alreday listed as a UFO that should be identified or if they will soon show up as a firm order?

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...nterim-net-profit-falls-61-368739/



Orders


Airbus
Air Namibia - 2 A319
Air Lease Corp. - 1 A330-300
AviancaTaca - 18 A32X, 33 A32X Neo. (Airbus shows 27 A319's, 20 A320's & 4 A321's. However, the individual breakdown between Oeo and Neo is not known at this time)
BOC Aviation - 2 A320
Etihad Airways - 2 A330-200F
Spirit Airlines - 30 A320
Tibet Airlines - 3 A319
Total - 91


Boeing
Japan Airlines - 10 787-9
Jet Airways - 17 737-800
Lion Air - 29 737-900ER, 201 737-MAX
Norwegian Air Shuttle - 22 737-800, 100 737-MAX
Virgin Australia - 1 737-800
Total - 370


Changes


Airbus
Conversions:

Air Lease Corp. - 1 A320 to 1 A321
GECAS - 8 A320 to 8 A321
Spirit Airlines - 13 A319 to 13 A320

Cancellations:

none

Identified:

none

Boeing
Conversions:
Japan Airlines: 10 787-8 to 787-9

none

Cancellations:

Jet Airways - 2 777-300ER

Identified:

Air France/KLM Group - 25 787-9 (from Dec. 2011)
Japan Airlines - 1 737-800 (from Aug. 2010)
LAN Airlines - 2 767-300ER (from Dec. 2011)


User currently offlinePA515 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2007, 883 posts, RR: 0
Reply 50, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 49208 times:

Air NZ Interim Result today says two 789 options have been converted to orders, making a total of ten on order, and the first 789 will be delivered in the second quarter 2014. The 'Interim Review' document says 'mid 2014'.
http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/press...new-zealand-reports-reduced-profit
(14th and 15th paragraphs)

http://airnewzealand.co.nz/assets/PDFs/Air-NZ-Interim-Review-2012-FINAL.pdf
(page 4, as page 5, 'the right aircraft')

PA515

[Edited 2012-02-24 00:22:12]

User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 51, posted (2 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 49176 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 49):
On the other hand, 29 737-900ER and 201 737MAX for Lieon Air was firmed up yesterday

Ah .. great.
I await Norwegian NEO order and Air France/KLM Group A350 order.


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 52, posted (2 years 7 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 49065 times:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...n-to-acquire-10-777-300ers-368875/

10 777-300ER til China Southern


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 53, posted (2 years 6 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 48020 times:

Firmed last week was the 4 767 and 3 787 for Air Astana

Orders


Airbus
Air Namibia - 2 A319
Air Lease Corp. - 1 A330-300
AviancaTaca - 18 A32X, 33 A32X Neo. (Airbus shows 27 A319's, 20 A320's & 4 A321's. However, the individual breakdown between Oeo and Neo is not known at this time)
BOC Aviation - 2 A320
Etihad Airways - 2 A330-200F
Spirit Airlines - 30 A320
Tibet Airlines - 3 A319
Total - 91


Boeing
Air Astana - 4 767-300ER, 3 787
Japan Airlines - 10 787-9
Jet Airways - 17 737-800
Lion Air - 29 737-900ER, 201 737-MAX
Norwegian Air Shuttle - 22 737-800, 100 737-MAX
Virgin Australia - 1 737-800
Total - 370


Changes


Airbus
Conversions:

Air Lease Corp. - 1 A320 to 1 A321
GECAS - 8 A320 to 8 A321
Spirit Airlines - 13 A319 to 13 A320

Cancellations:

none

Identified:

none

Boeing
Conversions:
Japan Airlines: 10 787-8 to 787-9

none

Cancellations:

Jet Airways - 2 777-300ER

Identified:

Air France/KLM Group - 25 787-9 (from Dec. 2011)
Japan Airlines - 1 737-800 (from Aug. 2010)
LAN Airlines - 2 767-300ER (from Dec. 2011)


User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3393 posts, RR: 9
Reply 54, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 47396 times:

Airbus' Feb figures are out:

6 x A359 for CX firmed up

6 x A359 for Alafco cancellled

[Edited 2012-03-09 00:40:18]

User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 55, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 46949 times:

Comprehensive update for March 9, 2012. Updates from my previous listing are in bold and underlined.

Orders


Airbus
Air Namibia - 2 A319
Air Lease Corp. - 1 A330-300
AviancaTaca - 18 A32X, 33 A32X Neo. (Airbus shows 27 A319's, 20 A320's & 4 A321's. However, the individual breakdown between Oeo and Neo is not known at this time)
BOC Aviation - 2 A320
Cathay Pacific - 6 A350-900
Etihad Airways - 2 A330-200F
Spirit Airlines - 30 A320
Tibet Airlines - 3 A319



Boeing
Air Astana - 4 767-300ER & 3 787-8
Japan Airlines - 10 787-9
Jet Airways - 17 737-800
Lion Air - 29 737-900ER & 201 737-MAX
Norwegian Air Shuttle - 22 737-800, 100 737-MAX
Virgin Australia - 1 737-800



Changes


Airbus
Conversions:

Air Lease Corp. - 1 A320 to 1 A321
ALAFCO - 1 A320 to Air Berlin 1 A320
GECAS - 8 A320 to 8 A321
ICBC - 3 A320 to 3 A321
Spirit Airlines - 13 A319 to 13 A320

Cancellations:

ALAFCO - 6 A350-900

Identified:

Air Berlin - 1 A320 & 1 A321
ALAFCO - 35 A320NEO



Boeing
Conversions:

AeroMexico - 6 737-700 to 6 737-800
Air Berlin - 7 737-700 to 7 737-800
WestJet - 1 737-700 to 1 737-800


Cancellations:

Jet Airways - 2 777-300ER

Identified:

Air Canada - 2 777-300ER (from Aug. 2011)
Air France/KLM Group - 25 787-9 (from Dec. 2011)
Japan Airlines - 1 737-800 (from Aug. 2010)
LAN Airlines - 2 767-300ER (from Dec. 2011)


Totals

Airbus
Gross Orders - 97
Net Orders - 91

Boeing
Gross Orders - 387
Net Orders - 385


Regards,

Hamlet69



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6926 posts, RR: 63
Reply 56, posted (2 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 46664 times:

As a footnote to this thread, we might just note that Boeing delivered 3 (!) 767s in February.  Wow!

User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 57, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 46041 times:

Seems to be a quiet period for Boeing. Neither this was there any orders being firmed up

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31055 posts, RR: 87
Reply 58, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 46091 times:
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Quoting Someone83 (Reply 57):
Seems to be a quiet period for Boeing. Neither this was there any orders being firmed up.
They landed 20 777s from Chinese carriers, but until China formally hands over the check, they won't go on the books.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31055 posts, RR: 87
Reply 59, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 45582 times:
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Been a quiet 30 days for Boeing, with no orders announced since February 23.

User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 60, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 45561 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 59):
Been a quiet 30 days for Boeing, with no orders announced since February 23

The PIA order, at least, is being held up due to the uncertainty around ExIm Bank status. I'd imagine there are a few others in the pipeline that are having the same issues.


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31055 posts, RR: 87
Reply 61, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 45491 times:
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Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 60):
The PIA order, at least, is being held up due to the uncertainty around ExIm Bank status. I'd imagine there are a few others in the pipeline that are having the same issues.

And they did have a nice February 23.  


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 62, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 44871 times:

Not firm yet, but seems like EVA is ordering another seven 77W

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...dd-seven-boeing-777-300ers-370110/


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 63, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 44571 times:

Are the new EVA B-777-300ERs to replace some of the B-747-400s currently in the fleet? Any word on when the might replace the B-747Fs and MD-11Fs and what those replacements might be, B-747-8Fs or B-777Fs (I guess the A-330F is also a possibility to replace the MD-11Fs)?

User currently offlineWarpSpeed From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 592 posts, RR: 3
Reply 64, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 44317 times:

NYC777 noted a reduction of 24 787s in this weeks orders update by Boeing. Any clues on the carrier(s) - Qantas, Air India, China Eastern (switch to 737s)?


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User currently offlineDaysleeper From UK - England, joined Dec 2009, 844 posts, RR: 1
Reply 65, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 44274 times:

Quoting WarpSpeed (Reply 64):
China Eastern (switch to 737s)?

I believe China order was for 15 788’s and 9 789’s so if that matches the announcement then it’s going to be them.

They were cancelled nearly 6 months ago though, so if it is them then it’s taken a while to sort out the paperwork.


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 66, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 44169 times:

Update per March 29. Changes since last week marked with *

Firm Orders


Airbus
Air Namibia - 2 A319
Air Lease Corp. - 1 A330-300
AviancaTaca - 18 A32X, 33 A32X Neo. (Airbus shows 27 A319's, 20 A320's & 4 A321's. However, the individual breakdown between Oeo and Neo is not known at this time)
BOC Aviation - 2 A320
Cathay Pacific - 6 A350-900
Etihad Airways - 2 A330-200F
Spirit Airlines - 30 A320
Tibet Airlines - 3 A319



Boeing
Air Astana - 4 767-300ER & 3 787-8
*Air New Zealand - 2 787-9 (I guess these are new orders and not a conversion from last year?)
*China Eastern - 45 737
Japan Airlines - 10 787-9
Jet Airways - 17 737-800
Lion Air - 29 737-900ER & 201 737-MAX
Norwegian Air Shuttle - 22 737-800, 100 737-MAX
Virgin Australia - 1 737-800



Changes


Airbus
Conversions:

Air Lease Corp. - 1 A320 to 1 A321
ALAFCO - 1 A320 to Air Berlin 1 A320
GECAS - 8 A320 to 8 A321
ICBC - 3 A320 to 3 A321
Spirit Airlines - 13 A319 to 13 A320

Cancellations:

ALAFCO - 6 A350-900

Identified:

Air Berlin - 1 A320 & 1 A321
ALAFCO - 35 A320NEO


Boeing
Conversions:

AeroMexico - 6 737-700 to 6 737-800
Air Berlin - 7 737-700 to 7 737-800
WestJet - 1 737-700 to 1 737-800

Cancellations:

Jet Airways - 2 777-300ER
*Unknown - 2 737
*China Eastern - 24 787

Identified:

Air Canada - 2 777-300ER (from Aug. 2011)
Air France/KLM Group - 25 787-9 (from Dec. 2011)
Japan Airlines - 1 737-800 (from Aug. 2010)
LAN Airlines - 2 767-300ER (from Dec. 2011)


Totals

Airbus
Gross Orders - 97
Net Orders - 91

Boeing
Gross Orders - 433
Net Orders - 406

Does anyone have a overview over this years pending orders and MoUs?

[Edited 2012-03-29 09:08:56]

User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 67, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 44143 times:

Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 65):
I believe China order was for 15 788’s and 9 789’s so if that matches the announcement then it’s going to be them.

They were cancelled nearly 6 months ago though, so if it is them then it’s taken a while to sort out the paperwork.

According to flightblogger it's China Eastern, and this matches their announcement fro last October when switching 787s to 737s


User currently offlineDaysleeper From UK - England, joined Dec 2009, 844 posts, RR: 1
Reply 68, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 44079 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 67):

According to flightblogger it's China Eastern, and this matches their announcement fro last October when switching 787s to 737s

Thanks. Just noticed the 737 order so it makes sense.


User currently offlineWarpSpeed From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 592 posts, RR: 3
Reply 69, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 44086 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 67):
According to flightblogger it's China Eastern

It would be nice if Boeing's Orders page made a more overt note of the switch for those of us hanging on every twist and turn!



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User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 70, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 43839 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 62):
Not firm yet, but seems like EVA is ordering another seven 77W

Last year they were talking about ordering 10 more, not 7. So either their business model has been adjusted, or they could be behind some of the UFO's placed last year.

Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 65):
I believe China order was for 15 788’s and 9 789’s so if that matches the announcement then it’s going to be them.

As already confirmed, it is indeed the combined China Eastern and Shanghai orders. Now, if you'll allow me to nit-pick just a hair - neither airline had -9's on order. Both were -8's. Your quantities, however, are spot on.

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 67):
According to flightblogger it's China Eastern, and this matches their announcement fro last October when switching 787s to 737s

I do find it. . . curious, that the 45 737NG's were immediately identified. Makes me even more curious for Boeing's next monthly update. . .

Quoting WarpSpeed (Reply 69):
It would be nice if Boeing's Orders page made a more overt note of the switch for those of us hanging on every twist and turn!

For those of us hanging on every twist and turn, we watch the news pages religiously, and don't need the more overt notes. Indeed, the 'partial' reveals are more tantalizing.  

Just playin' with ya.  


Regards,

Hamlet69



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User currently offlinerotating14 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 675 posts, RR: 0
Reply 71, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 43693 times:

http://www.king5.com/news/local/Boei...der-for-2-more-787s-145000215.html

Seems odd that they would just order two 787's. They must be frames from an order that fell through or something


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 72, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 43514 times:

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 71):
Seems odd that they would just order two 787's

Not really, top up orders like these are quite commom


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 73, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 43365 times:

One more A319ACJ order to Airbus, and their first from Japan

http://www.airbus.com/no_cache/press...s-1st-corporate-jet-sale-in-japan/


User currently offlinefrigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1621 posts, RR: 1
Reply 74, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 43236 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 67):
Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 65):I believe China order was for 15 788’s and 9 789’s so if that matches the announcement then it’s going to be them.

They were cancelled nearly 6 months ago though, so if it is them then it’s taken a while to sort out the paperwork.
According to flightblogger it's China Eastern, and this matches their announcement fro last October when switching 787s to 737s

And China Eastern was also rumored to be one of the airlines part of the 30x 777 deal a few weeks ago:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 58):
They landed 20 777s from Chinese carriers, but until China formally hands over the check, they won't go on the books.

10 of those 30 were already confirmed to be CZ's, so perhaps we'll see all of these Chinese 777 orders on Boeing's O&D page soon.



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User currently offlineWarpSpeed From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 592 posts, RR: 3
Reply 75, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 42962 times:

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 71):
Seems odd that they would just order two 787's. They must be frames from an order that fell through or something
Quoting Someone83 (Reply 72):
Not really, top up orders like these are quite commom

I wonder if any compensation for delivery delays was included in the mix here? Outside of that, ANZ must be the virtual "poster child" for an airline in which the 787 will be a game-changer. Small home country with a lot of long, thin route possibilities.

Maybe it has been discussed, but does anyone know why they did not keep their 787-8 orders, but instead opted to convert exclusively to the -9?



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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 76, posted (2 years 6 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 42427 times:

Boeing has announced the order for three 777-300ER, plus three options, for TAAG. So hopefully will they show up when Boeing updates their order overview on Thursday

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2193


User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 77, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 42364 times:

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 70):
I do find it. . . curious, that the 45 737NG's were immediately identified. Makes me even more curious for Boeing's next monthly update. . .

As I thought, quite a lot of "Identified"s added this month:


Boeing

Firm Orders
Air Astana - 4 767-300ER & 3 787-8
*Air New Zealand - 2 787-9
*China Eastern - 45 737-800
Japan Airlines - 10 787-9
Jet Airways - 17 737-800
Lion Air - 29 737-900ER & 201 737-MAX
Norwegian Air Shuttle - 22 737-800, 100 737-MAX
*TAAG Angola Airlines - 3 777-300ER
Virgin Australia - 1 737-800
*Unidentified - 3 777-300ER

Cancellations
*AWAS - 2 737-800
*China Eastern - 15 787-8
Jet Airways - 2 777-300ER
*Shanghai Airlines - 9 787-8

Conversions
AeroMexico - 6 737-700 to 6 737-800
Air Berlin - 7 737-700 to 7 737-800
*Aviation Capital - 3 737-700 to 3 737-800
WestJet - 1 737-700 to 1 737-800

Identified
Air Canada - 2 777-300ER (from Aug. 2011)
Air France/KLM Group - 25 787-9 (from Dec. 2011)
*China Eastern - 3 737-700 & 4 737-800 (from Feb. 2008)
*Hainan Airlines - 4 737-700 & 8 737-800 (from Nov. 2007)
Japan Airlines - 1 737-800 (from Aug. 2010)
LAN Airlines - 2 767-300ER (from Dec. 2011)
*Shandong Airlines - 6 737-800 (from Aug. 2007)
*Shanghai Airlines - 2 737-800 (from Dec. 2006)
*Shanghai Airlines - 2 737-800 (from April 2007)
*Shanghai Airlines - 2 737-700 & 3 737-800 (from Dec. 2007)
*Shenzhen Airlines - 10 737-800 (from Sept. 2007)


Regards,

Hamlet69



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User currently offlineSchweigend From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 621 posts, RR: 2
Reply 78, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 42148 times:

Thanks, Hamlet.

News to me about Kazakhstan's Air Astana being the latest 763 customer. With initial delivery dates for their 767s and 787s four years apart, I wonder which one will last longer in their fleet. Or whether they'll even take delivery of the Dreamliners at all.


From Air Transport World, 7 Feb, by Karen Walker:

Quote:
Kazakhstan-based Air Astana (KC) is purchasing four Boeing 767-300ERs and three 787-8s in an order worth $1.3 billion at list prices. It is the largest ever in Kazakhstan’s civil aviation history.

The 767s will be delivered in 2013 and 2014 and the 787s in 2017 and 2019, the airline said.
http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engine...67-787-order-19-profit-decline-201


Who will the next 763 customer will be...Copa? Delta? (Please don't flame me, DL has a very large 767 fleet that will need replacing. If Boeing's price is right, I wouldn't be surprised if Delta jumped into new 767s. It's not like they have 787s, or more A330s, arriving any time soon.)







[Edited 2012-04-06 01:32:27]

User currently offlineindia1 From India, joined Aug 2011, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 79, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 41968 times:
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Airbus adds 3 a/c in March as per their update:
http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/co...ate-information/orders-deliveries/


User currently offlineindia1 From India, joined Aug 2011, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 80, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 41974 times:
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Sorry guys, something wrong with that link, but here's the correct one:

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/co...ate-information/orders-deliveries/


User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 81, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 41752 times:

This morning, Airbus also released their March 2012 update. Details are:


Airbus


Firm Orders
*Airbus Corporate Jets - 1 A318CJ
Air Namibia - 2 A319
*Air Lease Corp. - 1 A330-200 & 2 A330-300 (1 A333 had already been firmed in January)
AviancaTaca - 18 A32X, 33 A32X Neo. (Airbus shows 27 A319's, 20 A320's & 4 A321's. However, the individual breakdown between Oeo and Neo is not known at this time)
BOC Aviation - 2 A320
Cathay Pacific - 6 A350-900
Etihad Airways - 2 A330-200F
Spirit Airlines - 30 A320
Tibet Airlines - 3 A319


Cancellations
*AerCap - 1 A330-200
*Airbus Corporate Jets - 1 A318CJ
ALAFCO - 6 A350-900
*Intrepid Aviation - 2 A330-200F


Conversions
*Aircraft Purchase Fleet - 1 A330-200 to Air Lease Corp. - 1 A330-200
Air Lease Corp. - 1 A320 to 1 A321
ALAFCO - 1 A320 to Air Berlin 1 A320
*Aviation Capital - 2 A320 to 2 A321
*BOC Aviation - 2 A320 to 2 A321
GECAS - 8 A320 to 8 A321
*Germania - 2 A319 to 2 A321
ICBC - 3 A320 to 3 A321
*Intrepid Aviation - 2 A330-200F to 1 A330-200 & 1 A330-300
Spirit Airlines - 13 A319 to 13 A320
TACA Int'l - 7 A320 to 2 A319 & 5 A321


Identified
Air Berlin - 1 A320 & 1 A321
ALAFCO - 35 A320NEO


With both OEM's numbers updated, Q1'12 totals are:

Airbus
Gross Orders: 100
Net Orders: 90


Boeing
Gross Orders: 440
Net Orders: 412


Regards,

Hamlet69



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User currently offlineDaysleeper From UK - England, joined Dec 2009, 844 posts, RR: 1
Reply 82, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 41675 times:

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 81):
Conversions
*Aircraft Purchase Fleet - 1 A330-200 to Air Lease Corp. - 1 A330-200
Air Lease Corp. - 1 A320 to 1 A321
ALAFCO - 1 A320 to Air Berlin 1 A320
*Aviation Capital - 2 A320 to 2 A321
*BOC Aviation - 2 A320 to 2 A321
GECAS - 8 A320 to 8 A321
*Germania - 2 A319 to 2 A321
ICBC - 3 A320 to 3 A321
*Intrepid Aviation - 2 A330-200F to 1 A330-200 & 1 A330-300
Spirit Airlines - 13 A319 to 13 A320
TACA Int'l - 7 A320 to 2 A319 & 5 A321

Seems to be a lot of conversions to the A321 here, Do we know if these are OEO’s or NEO’s?


User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 83, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 41662 times:

Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 82):
Do we know if these are OEO’s or NEO’s?

At the moment, it's impossible to know for sure as Airbus does not specify, and I have not seen any info anywhere else. Obviously, some of them HAVE to be OEO's as the clients (Air Lease, BOC, Germania, ICBC, TACA) don't have NEO's on order. For those that do, my hunch tells me these are all still OEO adjustments, as we are still quite a ways out from seeing the standard 'in-model' adjustments. But again, that's just a hunch, and I have no way to know 100% right now.


Regards,

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User currently offlineDaysleeper From UK - England, joined Dec 2009, 844 posts, RR: 1
Reply 84, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 41607 times:

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 83):

At the moment, it's impossible to know for sure as Airbus does not specify, and I have not seen any info anywhere else. Obviously, some of them HAVE to be OEO's as the clients (Air Lease, BOC, Germania, ICBC, TACA) don't have NEO's on order. For those that do, my hunch tells me these are all still OEO adjustments, as we are still quite a ways out from seeing the standard 'in-model' adjustments. But again, that's just a hunch, and I have no way to know 100% right now.


Regards,

Hamlet69

Thanks.

It’s just I’d be very surprised if most of them turned out to be the OEO as I didn’t really think it was all that popular. I expect that the 321NEO is going to be big seller, especially if it’s able to meet its predicted specification and capture the 757 replacement market.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31055 posts, RR: 87
Reply 85, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 41386 times:
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Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 84):
It’s just I’d be very surprised if most of them turned out to be the OEO as I didn’t really think it was all that popular.

They've delivered over 700 of them to date...  


User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1719 posts, RR: 8
Reply 86, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 41290 times:

Quoting Daysleeper (Reply 84):
Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 83):

At the moment, it's impossible to know for sure as Airbus does not specify, and I have not seen any info anywhere else. Obviously, some of them HAVE to be OEO's as the clients (Air Lease, BOC, Germania, ICBC, TACA) don't have NEO's on order. For those that do, my hunch tells me these are all still OEO adjustments, as we are still quite a ways out from seeing the standard 'in-model' adjustments. But again, that's just a hunch, and I have no way to know 100% right now.


Regards,

Hamlet69

Thanks.

It’s just I’d be very surprised if most of them turned out to be the OEO as I didn’t really think it was all that popular. I expect that the 321NEO is going to be big seller, especially if it’s able to meet its predicted specification and capture the 757 replacement market.

Is it possible that those will come in the time when those could be equipped with sharklets?


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6926 posts, RR: 63
Reply 87, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 41216 times:

So, of the 94 A330Fs ordered, 36 have been cancelled (22) or converted to passenger models (14).

Perhaps, not quite the "right aircraft right now"...  


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31055 posts, RR: 87
Reply 88, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 41165 times:
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Cargo is down, so...

I am confident her time will come.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 89, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 40725 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 87):
Perhaps, not quite the "right aircraft right now"...
Quoting Stitch (Reply 88):
Cargo is down, so...I am confident her time will come.

Yes, cargo is down right now, but even when the market comes back, the A-332F still will be bracketed by the B-763F and B-772F. I would have expected some of the 27 A-330MRTTs ordered to be converted into KC-330Fs, but that hasn't happened either.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 90, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 40575 times:

I am hoping to see some B-747-8 orders and a few more B-767 orders this year.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm


User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 91, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 40459 times:

Quoting india1 (Reply 80):
http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/co...ate-information/orders-deliveries/

No A380s delivered March?
What's going on? I thought that Airbus has stabilised the A380 production on 2 units (and rising) per month.
Actually Airbus only delivered 6 wide-bodies in March. Isn't that an "all-time-low"?


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6926 posts, RR: 63
Reply 92, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 40362 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 89):
I would have expected some of the 27 A-330MRTTs ordered to be converted into KC-330Fs

 
Quoting Chiad (Reply 91):
Airbus only delivered 6 wide-bodies in March. Isn't that an "all-time-low"?

It is unusually low. They delivered 10 in January and 11 in February.

On the other hand, they delivered 26 in Q1 in 2011 and 27 this year so they are still on track.


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 93, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 40100 times:

Quoting Chiad (Reply 91):
No A380s delivered March?
What's going on? I thought that Airbus has stabilised the A380 production on 2 units (and rising) per month.
Actually Airbus only delivered 6 wide-bodies in March. Isn't that an "all-time-low"?

You can't only look on one month as deliveries will fluctuate from month to month, especially on such a low volume aircraft as the A380, but need to take a look on it over a longer time period. So the average production of 2-2,5 per month still applies, and Sirbus is likely to deliver four A380 in April


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 94, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 40025 times:

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 81):
This morning, Airbus also released their March 2012 update. Details are:

Thanks for keeping the list updated  



Boeing as confirmed Transaero's order for 4 787-8, so i guess will see it on their order sheet the coming Thursday
http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2208

Quoting Chiad (Reply 91):
No A380s delivered March?
What's going on? I thought that Airbus has stabilised the A380 production on 2 units (and rising) per month.
Actually Airbus only delivered 6 wide-bodies in March. Isn't that an "all-time-low"?

I've started a similar thread, just looking at deliveries instead of orders, so we should continue the deliveries discussion here?
Airbus And Boeing Deliveries 2012 - Part 1 (by Someone83 Apr 9 2012 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlinerotating14 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 675 posts, RR: 0
Reply 95, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 39713 times:

Does anybody know if and when AF is going forward with their A350 order? Last I heard it was going to be split up between the two then Boeing's order showed up and nothing since then.

User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3393 posts, RR: 9
Reply 96, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 39618 times:

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 95):
Does anybody know if and when AF is going forward with their A350 order? Last I heard it was going to be split up between the two then Boeing's order showed up and nothing since then.

I do wonder that too as both the 787 and A350 order were mentioned in the same news story in December but they've not been firmed yet by Airbus - maybe it'll happen at an airshow this summer - is it Farnborough or Paris this year?


User currently onlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12569 posts, RR: 46
Reply 97, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 39465 times:
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Quoting scouseflyer (Reply 96):
Farnborough or Paris this year?

Even years = Farnborough.

I believe the only thing stopping AF from finalising their A350 order is the on-going negotiation re their desire to be able to offer maintenance on Trent-XWBs. I also believe they have yet to announce their engine choice for their 787s (although I suspect they've gone for GE, hence the firming of that order).



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User currently offlinefrigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1621 posts, RR: 1
Reply 98, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 39311 times:

Quoting scbriml (Reply 97):
I believe the only thing stopping AF from finalising their A350 order is the on-going negotiation re their desire to be able to offer maintenance on Trent-XWBs. I also believe they have yet to announce their engine choice for their 787s (although I suspect they've gone for GE, hence the firming of that order).

The rumor goes that AF/KL also wants to include the 787's in the RR deal, but RR isn't willing to give AF/KL the maintenance deal (yet). That book apparently hasn't been closed, but if RR doesn't give in AF/KL may yet opt for GE on their 787s. Looks like as soon as we see an engine manufacturer appear on Boeing's website with the AF/KL 787 order, we'll see the A350 order appear on Airbus website too.



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User currently offlinerotating14 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 675 posts, RR: 0
Reply 99, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 39105 times:

That being said, what ever happened to the long haul order of 787's or A330's for Lion Air?? I have yet to hear anything either on this.

User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6926 posts, RR: 63
Reply 100, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 38921 times:

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 98):
The rumor goes that AF/KL also wants to include the 787's in the RR deal, but RR isn't willing to give AF/KL the maintenance deal (yet).

That's what I've heard too. AF buying RR on two big widebody orders. Who'd have thought it?!  


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 101, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 38676 times:

Airbus states that the order for 11 A330-300 for Garuda is firm

http://www.airbus.com/no_cache/newse...m_medium=All-news&utm_campaign=RSS


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 102, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 38871 times:

In addition to 4 firm 787-8 for Transaero, Boeing also showed one cancellation for a single 787 in their weekly update

User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 103, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 38361 times:

No new firm orders this week from Boeing's weekly update

User currently offlinePHXA340 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 891 posts, RR: 1
Reply 104, posted (2 years 5 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 37881 times:

Air Lease Corp is set to buy 60 737MAX according to WSJ along with United which is rumored to buy 100+MAX's. The MAX roll continues ... hopefully more of those commitments will turn into firm orders.

User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6926 posts, RR: 63
Reply 105, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 37255 times:

The Transaero 787 order is now on the Boeing April O&D page and they appear to have chosen RR engines. Interesting.

User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3393 posts, RR: 9
Reply 106, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 37113 times:

With the transaero 787's being firmed I wonder if their A380 order will be on the next airbus monthly order list due out next week?

User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8549 posts, RR: 55
Reply 107, posted (2 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 36761 times:
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Quoting PHXA340 (Reply 104):
The Transaero 787 order is now on the Boeing April O&D page and they appear to have chosen RR engines

- Good to see another airline choose RR  
Quoting PM (Reply 100):
AF buying RR on two big widebody orders. Who'd have thought it?!

- Now that would be something!



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User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 108, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 36350 times:

Airbus released their monthly update today and the following orders was firmed in April

Garuda: 11 A330-300
Private customer: 1 ACJ318

Seems like a rather quiet start for Airbus this year.

Airbus


Firm Orders:
*Airbus Corporate Jets - 1 A318CJ
Airbus Corporate Jets - 1 A318CJ
Air Namibia - 2 A319
Air Lease Corp. - 1 A330-200 & 2 A330-300 (1 A333 had already been firmed in January)
AviancaTaca - 18 A32X, 33 A32X Neo. (Airbus shows 27 A319's, 20 A320's & 4 A321's. However, the individual breakdown between Oeo and Neo is not known at this time)
BOC Aviation - 2 A320
Cathay Pacific - 6 A350-900
Etihad Airways - 2 A330-200F
*Garuda - 11 A330-300
Spirit Airlines - 30 A320
Tibet Airlines - 3 A319


Don't have the overview over other changes such as cancellations, conversions etc for April


User currently offlineJack From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 109, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 36258 times:

Here are the Airbus conversions that I can find.


Etihad -7 A351
Indigo -18 A320 +18 A321
Airasia X -1 A332 +1 A333
Korean - 6 A332 +6 A333

Yet more movement to the A321 & A333. Did we know about the Etihad cancellation?


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31055 posts, RR: 87
Reply 110, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 36013 times:
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Quoting Jack (Reply 109):
Did we know about the Etihad cancellation?

Reuters broke it this morning - Etihad Cancels Another 7 A350-1000 (by Fraport May 7 2012 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 111, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 35863 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 93):
You can't only look on one month as deliveries will fluctuate from month to month, especially on such a low volume aircraft as the A380, but need to take a look on it over a longer time period. So the average production of 2-2,5 per month still applies, and Sirbus is likely to deliver four A380 in April
Quoting Someone83 (Reply 93):
You can't only look on one month as deliveries will fluctuate from month to month, especially on such a low volume aircraft as the A380, but need to take a look on it over a longer time period. So the average production of 2-2,5 per month still applies, and Sirbus is likely to deliver four A380 in April

I hoped you were right about this but now I'm actually a bit concerned.
1 (ONE) A380 delivered in April.
 
Only 5 delivered in 4 months.


User currently offlinePHXA340 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 891 posts, RR: 1
Reply 112, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 35838 times:

Quoting Chiad (Reply 111):
I hoped you were right about this but now I'm actually a bit concerned.
1 (ONE) A380 delivered in April.

Only 5 delivered in 4 months.

Wing crack issues impacting deliveries ?


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 113, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 35555 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 62):
Not firm yet, but seems like EVA is ordering another seven 77W

EVA is confirming that their will acquire another seven 777-300ER to their fleet. However, only three will be ordered directly from Boeing, while the four remaining will be leased. So maybe those three will show up on Boeing list this week?

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...rs-seven-boeing-777-300ers-371521/


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31055 posts, RR: 87
Reply 114, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 35216 times:
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Boeing has a UFO for 3 777-300ERs so I imagine those will be identified on Thursday as being EVA's. The four leased frames from GECAS have already been ordered (GECAS ordered two sets of 8 in March and July 2011).

User currently offlinemffoda From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 115, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 34739 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 114):

boeing has a UFO for 3 777-300ERs so I imagine those will be identified on Thursday as being EVA's. The four leased frames from GECAS have already been ordered (GECAS ordered two sets of 8 in March and July 2011).

Looks like they are AC's UFO order... EVA's are New.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/



harder than woodpecker lips...
User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 116, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 34391 times:

That should make the Boeing list for 2012 like this:

Boeing

Firm Orders

Air Astana - 4 767-300ER & 3 787-8
*Air Canada - 3 777-300ER
Air New Zealand - 2 787-9
China Eastern - 45 737-800
*EVA - 3 777-300ER
Japan Airlines - 10 787-9
Jet Airways - 17 737-800
Lion Air - 29 737-900ER & 201 737-MAX
Norwegian Air Shuttle - 22 737-800, 100 737-MAX
TAAG Angola Airlines - 3 777-300ER
Virgin Australia - 1 737-800


Cancellations
AWAS - 2 737-800
China Eastern - 15 787-8
Jet Airways - 2 777-300ER
Shanghai Airlines - 9 787-8

Conversions
AeroMexico - 6 737-700 to 6 737-800
Air Berlin - 7 737-700 to 7 737-800
Aviation Capital - 3 737-700 to 3 737-800
WestJet - 1 737-700 to 1 737-800

Identified
Air Canada - 2 777-300ER (from Aug. 2011)
Air France/KLM Group - 25 787-9 (from Dec. 2011)
China Eastern - 3 737-700 & 4 737-800 (from Feb. 2008)
Hainan Airlines - 4 737-700 & 8 737-800 (from Nov. 2007)
Japan Airlines - 1 737-800 (from Aug. 2010)
LAN Airlines - 2 767-300ER (from Dec. 2011)
Shandong Airlines - 6 737-800 (from Aug. 2007)
Shanghai Airlines - 2 737-800 (from Dec. 2006)
Shanghai Airlines - 2 737-800 (from April 2007)
Shanghai Airlines - 2 737-700 & 3 737-800 (from Dec. 2007)
Shenzhen Airlines - 10 737-800 (from Sept. 2007)


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 117, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 33409 times:

Another quiet week. Not even an MoU these days, so almost difficult æpreventing this thread getting archived

User currently offlinemffoda From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 118, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 33402 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 117):
Another quiet week.

Thanks again, someone83, Farn Donkey should be very entertaining...  



harder than woodpecker lips...
User currently offlinerotating14 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 675 posts, RR: 0
Reply 119, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 33378 times:

http://news.airwise.com/story/view/1337952608.html

It looks as though Lion Air has pulled the trigger on its widebody order.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31055 posts, RR: 87
Reply 120, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 33132 times:
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Nice win for the 787, even if Lion Air is already a huge Boeing narrowbody customer.

User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 121, posted (2 years 4 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 32760 times:

Sorry that it took so long to update. But here y'all go:

Airbus


Firm Orders
Airbus Corporate Jets - 1 A318CJ
*Airbus Corporate Jets - 1 A318CJ
Air Namibia - 2 A319
Air Lease Corp. - 1 A330-200 & 2 A330-300 (1 A333 had already been firmed in January)
AviancaTaca - 18 A32X, 33 A32X Neo. (Airbus shows 27 A319's, 20 A320's & 4 A321's. However, the individual breakdown between Oeo and Neo is not known at this time)
BOC Aviation - 2 A320
Cathay Pacific - 6 A350-900
Etihad Airways - 2 A330-200F
*Garuda Indonesia - 11 A330-300
Spirit Airlines - 30 A320
Tibet Airlines - 3 A319


Cancellations
AerCap - 1 A330-200
Airbus Corporate Jets - 1 A318CJ
ALAFCO - 6 A350-900
Etihad Airways - 7 A350-1000
Intrepid Aviation - 2 A330-200F


Conversions
*AirAsiaX - 1 A330-200 to 1 A330-300
Aircraft Purchase Fleet - 1 A330-200 to Air Lease Corp. - 1 A330-200
Air Lease Corp. - 1 A320 to 1 A321
ALAFCO - 1 A320 to Air Berlin 1 A320
Aviation Capital - 2 A320 to 2 A321
BOC Aviation - 2 A320 to 2 A321
GECAS - 8 A320 to 8 A321
Germania - 2 A319 to 2 A321
ICBC - 3 A320 to 3 A321
*IndiGo - 18 A320 to 18 A321 (it is unknown if these are CEO or NEO)
Intrepid Aviation - 2 A330-200F to 1 A330-200 & 1 A330-300
*Korean Air Lines - 6 A330-200 to 6 A330-300
Spirit Airlines - 13 A319 to 13 A320
TACA Int'l - 7 A320 to 2 A319 & 5 A321


Identified
Air Berlin - 1 A320 & 1 A321
*Air Berlin - 1 A321
ALAFCO - 35 A320NEO
*WizzAir - -20 A320 (cancellation booked December 2011)



Boeing

Firm Orders
Air Astana - 4 767-300ER & 3 787-8
Air Canada - 3 777-300ER
Air New Zealand - 2 787-9
China Eastern - 45 737-800
Japan Airlines - 10 787-9
Jet Airways - 17 737-800
Lion Air - 29 737-900ER & 201 737-MAX
Norwegian Air Shuttle - 22 737-800, 100 737-MAX
TAAG Angola Airlines - 3 777-300ER
*Transaero Airlines - 4 787-8
Virgin Australia - 1 737-800


Cancellations
AWAS - 2 737-800
*Boeing Business Jets - 1 787-8
China Eastern - 15 787-8
Jet Airways - 2 777-300ER
Shanghai Airlines - 9 787-8


Conversions
AeroMexico - 6 737-700 to 6 737-800
Air Berlin - 7 737-700 to 7 737-800
Aviation Capital - 3 737-700 to 3 737-800
*Vietnam Aircraft Leasing - 8 787-8 to Air Lease Corp. 8 787-9
WestJet - 1 737-700 to 1 737-800
*WestJet - 2 737-700 to 2 737-800
*Unidentified - 3 737-700 to 3 737-800 (order placed 22 June, 2011)


Identified
Air Canada - 2 777-300ER (from Aug. 2011)
Air France/KLM Group - 25 787-9 (from Dec. 2011)
China Eastern - 3 737-700 & 4 737-800 (from Feb. 2008)
Hainan Airlines - 4 737-700 & 8 737-800 (from Nov. 2007)
Japan Airlines - 1 737-800 (from Aug. 2010)
LAN Airlines - 2 767-300ER (from Dec. 2011)
Shandong Airlines - 6 737-800 (from Aug. 2007)
Shanghai Airlines - 2 737-800 (from Dec. 2006)
Shanghai Airlines - 2 737-800 (from April 2007)
Shanghai Airlines - 2 737-700 & 3 737-800 (from Dec. 2007)
Shenzhen Airlines - 10 737-800 (from Sept. 2007)




Airbus
Gross Orders: 112
Net Orders: 95


Boeing
Gross Orders: 444
Net Orders: 415


Regards,

Hamlet69



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User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 122, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 32233 times:

Both Boeing and Airbus have now stated they expect 30 orders for their biggest models, 747-8 and A380. So far it has been rather quiet this year. Still 7 months left of the year, but I believe both are a little to optimistic

User currently offlinesirtoby From Germany, joined Nov 2007, 380 posts, RR: 22
Reply 123, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 32089 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 120):
Still 7 months left of the year, but I believe both are a little to optimistic

They should know better than all of us, as they are the ones who talk to their customers and get indications when and how many they might order.
At least JL has a track record in only making such comments when he is sure that he gets these orders - or more.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31055 posts, RR: 87
Reply 124, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 31789 times:
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Quoting someone83 (Reply 120):
Still 7 months left of the year, but I believe both are a little to optimistic.

Speaking only for Boeing, I think they can do it. Hong Kong Airlines is 15 of those 30 and Boeing also have 5 with Air China and 4 with Transaero. So they're essentially halfway there already. Yes, those are commitments at the moment, but if a 747-8 commitment is like a 737 MAX commitment, than those carriers have all paid money to secure delivery positions (Air China could be the next carrier to take delivery of a 747-8, though LH will take many additional frames before that happens).


User currently offlineWarpSpeed From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 592 posts, RR: 3
Reply 125, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 31535 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 122):
Air China could be the next carrier to take delivery of a 747-8

Might Korean Air be the next carrier?



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31055 posts, RR: 87
Reply 126, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 31338 times:
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Quoting WarpSpeed (Reply 123):
Might Korean Air be the next carrier?

They should be, but FB noted that CA might jump the line.


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 127, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 30743 times:

Air Lease Corporation has firmed their order for 36 NEOs, of which 16 A321neo. Not sure if it will show up on the spreadsheet for May, but think it anyway can be classified as a firm order


http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/new...er-for-36-a320neo-family-aircraft/

In addition is Garuda saying they plan to order 3 332Fs, alhough there's nothing from Airbus about it

[Edited 2012-06-06 10:52:27]

User currently offlineindia1 From India, joined Aug 2011, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 128, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 30375 times:
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Airbus' May spreadsheet is out and they're confirming the ALC order. Here's the link...

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/co...ate-information/orders-deliveries/

I guess all the action at both & B A ends will be held up for Farnborough now?


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 129, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 30870 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 125):
Not sure if it will show up on the spreadsheet for May

And the answer for that is yes. Booked 31/5. All booked at A320neo, but as they stated 20 of them will be A321neo, I think we can at 16 A320neo and 20 A320neo to the firmed list. In addition BOC aviation firm a A320 on May 10

This should bring Airbus orders so far in 2012 to 149 gross and 132 net


Airbus

Firm Orders
Airbus Corporate Jets - 1 A318CJ
Airbus Corporate Jets - 1 A318CJ
Air Namibia - 2 A319
Air Lease Corp. - 1 A330-200 & 2 A330-300 (1 A333 had already been firmed in January)
*Air Lease Corp - 16 A320neo & 20 A321neo
AviancaTaca - 18 A32X, 33 A32X Neo. (Airbus shows 27 A319's, 20 A320's & 4 A321's. However, the individual breakdown between Oeo and Neo is not known at this time)
BOC Aviation - 2 A320
*BOC Aviation - 1 A320
Cathay Pacific - 6 A350-900
Etihad Airways - 2 A330-200F
Garuda Indonesia - 11 A330-300
Spirit Airlines - 30 A320
Tibet Airlines - 3 A319

No new cancellations this month, although there should be some in the pipeline, such as the A380 to Kingfisher and Austral

Cancellations
AerCap - 1 A330-200
Airbus Corporate Jets - 1 A318CJ
ALAFCO - 6 A350-900
Etihad Airways - 7 A350-1000
Intrepid Aviation - 2 A330-200F

Don't have any overview of conversions or identified


User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3393 posts, RR: 9
Reply 130, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 30680 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 127):
No new cancellations this month, although there should be some in the pipeline, such as the A380 to Kingfisher and Austral

I think that the UU ones will come through relatively quickly as they're already talkign about them - although it was in the context of a conversion to a smaller aircraft - still don't know how they'd pay for them as isnt' there a 772LR sitting at Boein that they can't finance?

IT are apparantly still going on so the cancellation will be a while yet - but I think that it's now inevitable!

We're in the quiet before the (smallish) storm that is going to be Farnborough this year where they'll be a good number of announcements.


User currently onlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3575 posts, RR: 27
Reply 131, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 30453 times:
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Boeing added 5 Pakistan 777's 1 unidentifed 777 and lost 4 777's according to today's update

User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 132, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 30254 times:

Quoting kanban (Reply 129):
lost 4 777's according to today's update

These were the indefinitely delayed -300ER's for Royal Brunei (listed as UFO, but we all knew who they were for).


Regards,

Hamlet69



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User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4161 posts, RR: 36
Reply 133, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 29899 times:

Norwegian firms A320Neo order:

Quote:
Norwegian Air Shuttle signed a firm deal with Airbus for an order of 100 Airbus A320neo aircraft and also agreed on an option on another 50 similar aircraft, it said on Friday.
http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/0...rwegian-airbus-idINWEA376020120608



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User currently offlinemffoda From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 134, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 29705 times:

"Lion Air signs deal to buy 5 Boeing 787's"

http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/0...r-dreamliner-idINL4E8H89BL20120608

Looks like they decided on he 787.



harder than woodpecker lips...
User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 135, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 29667 times:

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 133):
Norwegian firms A320Neo order:

Thanks for the update.
flood ... can you summarize the NEO orders please?
 


User currently offlineWarpSpeed From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 592 posts, RR: 3
Reply 136, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 29556 times:

Quoting mffoda (Reply 134):
"Lion Air signs deal to buy 5 Boeing 787's"

http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/0...r-dreamliner-idINL4E8H89BL20120608

Looks like they decided on he 787.

Leeham.net reports they will take some of the Terrible Teens - early-build 787's that will require extensive rework.

http://leehamnews.wordpress.com/2012...at-787-financial-impact-on-boeing/



DaHjaj jaj QaQ Daghajjaj !!!!
User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 137, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 29420 times:

Until firmed by Boeing, I think those to Lion Air should be classified as tentative

But those fo Norwegian I do think we can irm without waiting for Airbus' updat in about a month


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31055 posts, RR: 87
Reply 138, posted (2 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 29361 times:
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Quoting someone83 (Reply 135):
Until firmed by Boeing, I think those to Lion Air should be classified as tentative

Boeing issued a formal press release noting their commitment to buy them and per Boeing, a commitment requires a check to deposit, so they should be firm.

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2285


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 139, posted (2 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 28849 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 136):
Boeing issued a formal press release noting their commitment to buy them and per Boeing, a commitment requires a check to deposit, so they should be firm.

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2285

Now listed on Boeings weekly update

The 777 UFO from last week, has now been identified as a 777-300ER to American. While 3 737 were cancelled

[Edited 2012-06-14 23:38:49]

User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 140, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 28243 times:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...converts-three-787-options-373173/

According to Flightglobal, Avianve-TACA converted three 787-8 options into orders last month. Although they're yet to be confirmed by Boeing so they're still pending


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 141, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 27784 times:

Alaska Airlines firmed three 737s according to Boeing's weekly update. Guess their -800s?

No sign of Avianca-TACA's 787s yet


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 142, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 27388 times:

A brief update on Boeing 2012 firm order status


Boeing

Firm Orders
Air Astana - 4 767-300ER & 3 787-8
Air Canada - 3 777-300ER
Air New Zealand - 2 787-9
*Alaska Airlines - 3 737-(800?)
*American Airlines - 1 777-300ER

China Eastern - 45 737-800
Japan Airlines - 10 787-9
Jet Airways - 17 737-800
Lion Air - 29 737-900ER & 201 737-MAX
*Lion Air - 5 787-8
Norwegian Air Shuttle - 22 737-800, 100 737-MAX
*Pakistan International Airlines - 5 777-300ER
TAAG Angola Airlines - 3 777-300ER
Transaero Airlines - 4 787-8
Virgin Australia - 1 737-800


Cancellations
AWAS - 2 737-800
Boeing Business Jets - 1 787-8
China Eastern - 15 787-8
Jet Airways - 2 777-300ER
Shanghai Airlines - 9 787-8
*Unidentified - 3 737
*Unidentified (Royal Brunei) - 4 777-300ER



Conversions
AeroMexico - 6 737-700 to 6 737-800
Air Berlin - 7 737-700 to 7 737-800
Aviation Capital - 3 737-700 to 3 737-800
Vietnam Aircraft Leasing - 8 787-8 to Air Lease Corp. 8 787-9
WestJet - 1 737-700 to 1 737-800
WestJet - 2 737-700 to 2 737-800
Unidentified - 3 737-700 to 3 737-800 (order placed 22 June, 2011)


Identified
Air Canada - 2 777-300ER (from Aug. 2011)
Air France/KLM Group - 25 787-9 (from Dec. 2011)
China Eastern - 3 737-700 & 4 737-800 (from Feb. 2008)
Hainan Airlines - 4 737-700 & 8 737-800 (from Nov. 2007)
Japan Airlines - 1 737-800 (from Aug. 2010)
LAN Airlines - 2 767-300ER (from Dec. 2011)
Shandong Airlines - 6 737-800 (from Aug. 2007)
Shanghai Airlines - 2 737-800 (from Dec. 2006)
Shanghai Airlines - 2 737-800 (from April 2007)
Shanghai Airlines - 2 737-700 & 3 737-800 (from Dec. 2007)
Shenzhen Airlines - 10 737-800 (from Sept. 2007)


Boeing
Gross Orders: 461
Net Orders: 425

Feel feel to come with any correction or fill in any blanks


User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 143, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 27062 times:

When I get home I'll try and post the updates from May. I can tell you right now there was some movement on UFO 787's. VS was identified as the buyer of 1 more -9. And both LCAL (5) and AWAS (1) were moved into the UFO category.

Regards,

Hamlet69



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User currently offlineWarmNuts From United States of America, joined May 2006, 94 posts, RR: 3
Reply 144, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 26914 times:

What came of the news a few months back regarding United's forthcoming order of 100+ 737s?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ogy/2018054557_unitedboeing24.html

[Edited 2012-06-22 08:39:22]

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31055 posts, RR: 87
Reply 145, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 26911 times:
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Quoting WarmNuts (Reply 144):
What came of the news a few months back regarding United's forthcoming order of 100+ 737s?

It might be part of the expected wave of 737 MAX orders at Farnborough.


User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 146, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 26875 times:

Quoting WarmNuts (Reply 144):

What came of the news a few months back regarding United's forthcoming order of 100+ 737s?

Wait for Farnborough
  


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 147, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 26333 times:

No changes in Boeings order books this week. However, next week, both Airbus and Boeing should present their monthly orders and deliveries updates, which is also half way into 2012

And then there is Farnborough......


User currently offlinemffoda From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 148, posted (2 years 3 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 25916 times:

Good news for the 767F program...   

http://www.istockanalyst.com/finance...-unit-to-buy-19-boeing-ba-aircraft

"FedEx Express agreed to buy 19 additional B767-300 aircraft, which will be delivered from fiscal 2015 to 2019 and replace current MD-10 and A310-200 aircraft."



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User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4161 posts, RR: 36
Reply 149, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 25411 times:

Looks like a new one for the A330:

Quote:
Aircraft leasing companies AerCap and AerDragon said Tuesday they had ordered five long-range wide-body Airbus A330-300 aircraft to lease to Singapore Airlines.
http://news.ph.msn.com/business/leas...s-to-lease-to-singapore-airlines-3



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6926 posts, RR: 63
Reply 150, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 25318 times:

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 147):
Looks like a new one for the A330:

I doubt if this is "new". The fist 19 SQ A330s (one of which I'm about to board!) were logged by Airbus and then steadily passed over to various leasing companies. My guess is that this is the start of the same process with the second batch of 15.

If you look at the Airbus O&D sheet, you'll see that SQ don't own any of the 19 they operate. They are listed as having 15 on order but I think you'll see that reduced by 5 once these leasing companies firm their order.


User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 151, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 24776 times:

As already mentioned in the Australian Aviation thread, Virgin Australia has ordered 23 MAX-8 plus 4 options.

http://www.virginaustralia.com/us/en...12/VIRGIN-AUSTRALIA-ORDERS-23-BOE/


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 152, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 24491 times:

Quoting mffoda (Reply 146):


"FedEx Express agreed to buy 19 additional B767-300 aircraft, which will be delivered from fiscal 2015 to 2019 and replace current MD-10 and A310-200 aircraft."


Now listed on Boeing's weekly update. Although only as 15 orders, so I guess the four remaining are conversions from the four 777F cancelled.

Should try to make a updated list later


User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 153, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 24195 times:

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 141):
When I get home I'll try and post the updates from May

So here is May and June's update for Boeing.   This weekend, hopefully we'll have Airbus's as well before FIA'12 starts.


Boeing

Firm Orders
Air Astana - 4 767-300ER & 3 787-8
Air Canada - 3 777-300ER
Air New Zealand - 2 787-9
* Alaska Airlines - 3 737-900ER
* American Airlines - 1 777-300ER

China Eastern - 45 737-800
* FedEx - 15 767-300F
Japan Airlines - 10 787-9
Jet Airways - 17 737-800
Lion Air - 29 737-900ER & 201 737-MAX
* Lion Air - 5 787-8
Norwegian Air Shuttle - 22 737-800, 100 737-MAX
* Pakistan Int'l Airlines - 5 777-300ER
TAAG Angola Airlines - 3 777-300ER
Transaero Airlines - 4 787-8
Virgin Australia - 1 737-800


Cancellations
* Air Europa - 3 737-800
AWAS - 2 737-800
Boeing Business Jets - 1 787-8
China Eastern - 15 787-8
Jet Airways - 2 777-300ER
* Royal Brunei Airlines (UFO) - 4 777-300ER
Shanghai Airlines - 9 787-8


Conversions
AeroMexico - 6 737-700 to 6 737-800
Air Berlin - 7 737-700 to 7 737-800
* All Nippon Airways - 4 787-8 to 4 787-9
Aviation Capital - 3 737-700 to 3 737-800
* Aviation Capital - 5 737-700 to 5 737-800
* SpiceJet - 1 737-900ER to 1 737-800
Vietnam Aircraft Leasing - 8 787-8 to Air Lease Corp. 8 787-9
WestJet - 1 737-700 to 1 737-800
WestJet - 2 737-700 to 2 737-800
Unidentified - 3 737-700 to 3 737-800 (order placed 22 June, 2011)


Identified
Air Canada - 2 777-300ER (from Aug. 2011)
Air France/KLM Group - 25 787-9 (from Dec. 2011)
* American Airlines - 2 777-300ER (from Aug. 2011)
China Eastern - 3 737-700 & 4 737-800 (from Feb. 2008)
Hainan Airlines - 4 737-700 & 8 737-800 (from Nov. 2007)
Japan Airlines - 1 737-800 (from Aug. 2010)
LAN Airlines - 2 767-300ER (from Dec. 2011)
Shandong Airlines - 6 737-800 (from Aug. 2007)
Shanghai Airlines - 2 737-800 (from Dec. 2006)
Shanghai Airlines - 2 737-800 (from April 2007)
Shanghai Airlines - 2 737-700 & 3 737-800 (from Dec. 2007)
Shenzhen Airlines - 10 737-800 (from Sept. 2007)
* Virgin Atlantic - 1 787-9 (from Dec. 2009)


Regards,

Hamlet69



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User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 154, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 24286 times:

Thank you Hamlet69! Good job  

User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6926 posts, RR: 63
Reply 155, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 24252 times:

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 151):
* Royal Brunei Airlines (UFO) - 4 777-300ER

Was this the now disappeared order from 3rd January 2007? (An order that was originally for the -2LR then converted in 2010 to the -3ER.)


User currently offlineindia1 From India, joined Aug 2011, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 156, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 24256 times:
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Airbus' June figures out!

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/co...ate-information/orders-deliveries/


User currently offlineJack From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 157, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 24215 times:

Looks like Matlinpatterson cancelled their 6 A332F

Also Etihad converted 6 A320 to A321.

I make that 48 conversions from A319/A320 to A321 so far this year.

[Edited 2012-07-06 00:59:20]

User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3393 posts, RR: 9
Reply 158, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 24108 times:

Something that jumped out at me from the A figures is 51 deliveries - is that a monthly record for Airbus?

User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 159, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 24117 times:

Quoting scouseflyer (Reply 158):

Something that jumped out at me from the A figures is 51 deliveries - is that a monthly record for Airbus?

Nope, they had 53 in March and 52 in April


User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6577 posts, RR: 55
Reply 160, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 24042 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 155):
Was this the now disappeared order from 3rd January 2007? (An order that was originally for the -2LR then converted in 2010 to the -3ER.)

Yes, that's the one.

The777Man



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User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3393 posts, RR: 9
Reply 161, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 23980 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 159):
Quoting scouseflyer (Reply 158):

Something that jumped out at me from the A figures is 51 deliveries - is that a monthly record for Airbus?

Nope, they had 53 in March and 52 in April

OOPS please ignore me 


User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 162, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 23614 times:

BTW, I forgot to mention this before -

With the latest FedEx order, the 767 has pushed past the 1,100 mark, with total family orders now sitting at 1,105!

Great accomplishment for an oft-underappreciated aircraft!!   


Hamlet69



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User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 163, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 23383 times:

Alright, and to get us all ready for Monday - here is Airbus's May and June updates!


Airbus

Firm Orders
Airbus Corporate Jets - 2 A318CJ
Air Namibia - 2 A319
Air Lease Corp. - 1 A330-200 & 2 A330-300
* Air Lease Corp. - 36 A320Neo
AviancaTaca - 18 A32X, 33 A32X Neo. (Airbus shows 27 A319's, 20 A320's & 4 A321's. However, the individual breakdown between Oeo and Neo is not known at this time)
BOC Aviation - 2 A320
* BOC Aviation - 1 A320
Cathay Pacific - 6 A350-900
Etihad Airways - 2 A330-200F
Garuda Indonesia - 11 A330-300
* Norwegian Air Shuttle - 100 A320Neo
Spirit Airlines - 30 A320
Tibet Airlines - 3 A319
* TransAero Airlines - 4 A380-800


Cancellations
AerCap - 1 A330-200
Airbus Corporate Jets - 1 A318CJ
ALAFCO - 6 A350-900
Etihad Airways - 7 A350-1000
Intrepid Aviation - 2 A330-200F
* MatlinPatterson - 6 A330-200F


Conversions
AirAsiaX - 1 A330-200 to 1 A330-300
Aircraft Purchase Fleet - 1 A330-200 to Air Lease Corp. - 1 A330-200
Air Lease Corp. - 1 A320 to 1 A321
ALAFCO - 1 A320 to Air Berlin 1 A320
Aviation Capital - 2 A320 to 2 A321
BOC Aviation - 2 A320 to 2 A321
* CASGC - 2 A320 to Spring Airlines - 2 A320
* Etihad Airways - 6 A320 to 6 A321
GECAS - 8 A320 to 8 A321
Germania - 2 A319 to 2 A321
ICBC - 3 A320 to 3 A321
IndiGo - 18 A320 to 18 A321 (it is unknown if these are CEO or NEO)
Intrepid Aviation - 2 A330-200F to 1 A330-200 & 1 A330-300
* Juneyao Airlines - 1 A320 to 1 A321
Korean Air Lines - 6 A330-200 to 6 A330-300
Spirit Airlines - 13 A319 to 13 A320
TACA Int'l - 7 A320 to 2 A319 & 5 A321


Identified
Air Berlin - 1 A320 & 2 A321
* Air Berlin - 1 A320 & 1 A321
ALAFCO - 35 A320NEO
* Gulf Air - 2 A321
WizzAir - -20 A320 (cancellation booked December 2011)



Bring on Farnborough!!!!   


Hamlet69



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User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 164, posted (2 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 22797 times:

Boeing just updated their orders overview and the following orders have been firmed:

Virgin Australia: 23 737-8max
United: 50 737-900ER and 100 737-9max
Air Lease Corporation: 60 737-8max and 15 737-9max
UFO: 3 737


User currently offlinerotating14 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 675 posts, RR: 0
Reply 165, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 22233 times:

Korean Air just ordered 2 more 777-300ER.

http://www.4-traders.com/KOREAN-AIR-...Traffic-Lower-Oil-Prices-14420833/


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 166, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 22026 times:

And Ethiopian one 777-200LR according to Boeing

http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2350


Boeing just updated their weekly overview. Three UFO 777 has been added. Not sure if it could be the two for KE and one for ET or not


User currently offlineosiris30 From Barbados, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 3192 posts, RR: 25
Reply 167, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 21970 times:

Any chance we can get a summary for manu's with net/gross counts. With the airshow I've lost track of who has what on order. I really appreciate the work the maintainers of these threads do and almost feel guilty asking.

TIA,

Steve



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User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4505 posts, RR: 72
Reply 168, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 21845 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 164):
And Ethiopian one 777-200LR according to Boeing

I wonder whether this regards L/N 1006, the B77L that was orgininally built for Air Austral (UU), but was never taken up and has recently been repainted all white.


User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 169, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 21830 times:

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 166):
I wonder whether this regards L/N 1006, the B77L that was orgininally built for Air Austral (UU), but was never taken up and has recently been repainted all white

Entirely possible. However, one would think that if, as Someone83 points out, that the three UFO's booked today includes ET, there probably should have been a corresponding cancellation as well. Then again, they might wait and do like Airbus does - make the adjustment at time of delivery, when the aircraft "officially" changes hands.

Quoting osiris30 (Reply 165):
Any chance we can get a summary for manu's with net/gross counts. With the airshow I've lost track of who has what on order.

No problem:

Airbus (as of June 30)

Gross: 253
Net: 230


Boeing (as of July 17)

Gross: 730
Net: 694


As you can see, there is a date-discrepancy, as Boeing updates their totals weekly, while Airbus does so monthly. Therefore, the Boeing totals include the firm orders signed at Farnborough, while the Airbus totals do not. We should have a clearer picture during the first week of August.


Regards,

Hamlet69



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User currently offlineosiris30 From Barbados, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 3192 posts, RR: 25
Reply 170, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 21347 times:

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 167):
As you can see, there is a date-discrepancy, as Boeing updates their totals weekly, while Airbus does so monthly. Therefore, the Boeing totals include the firm orders signed at Farnborough, while the Airbus totals do not. We should have a clearer picture during the first week of August.

Thanks Hamlet  

It's just hard to keep track of all this stuff with all the orders flying around.. especially the 1s and 2s that seem to have been more than plentiful this year  



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5735 posts, RR: 4
Reply 171, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 21157 times:

A321 for Etihad and Indigo?

User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 172, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 20669 times:

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 166):


I wonder whether this regards L/N 1006, the B77L that was orgininally built for Air Austral (UU), but was never taken up and has recently been repainted all white.

Doesn't seems to be the case. Ethiopian's 77L order is listed as a new order, and UU's is still not cancelled. ET's order was one of the three UFOs listed last week.

The two 777-300ER for KE is now listed on Boeing order list, which means that two of the UFO list last week is not the planes for KE as I thought, but another order


User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4505 posts, RR: 72
Reply 173, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 20652 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 170):
UU's is still not cancelled

According to various sources, this aircraft has nevertheless been reregistered and shows now as stored and owned by Boeing. Wouldn't that mean the order is cancelled and Boeing is trying to remarket this aircraft?


User currently offlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6924 posts, RR: 46
Reply 174, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 20259 times:

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 171):
Wouldn't that mean the order is cancelled and Boeing is trying to remarket this aircraft?

That would be a logical deduction.



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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 175, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 20277 times:

Can you cancel an aircraft all ready built?

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31055 posts, RR: 87
Reply 176, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 20235 times:
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Quoting Someone83 (Reply 173):
Can you cancel an aircraft all ready built?

Yes, but you risk forfeiture of monies already paid (which can be more than 50% of the total amount owed by the time the plane is completed), so UU must really be hurting for cash if they couldn't come up with the rest and why they desperately want to find a new buyer (so they can get those monies back from Boeing).


User currently offlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 6924 posts, RR: 46
Reply 177, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 20155 times:

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 173):
Can you cancel an aircraft all ready built?

You don't own the plane until the last dollar is paid. If you can't come up with the money you don't get the plane. As Stitch said above, you lose all that you have already paid-which is likely to be a substantial amount.



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