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Wind Jet, Blue Panorama To Merge With Alitalia  
User currently offlineLIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4361 times:

According to official sources thourgh the Italian media, Blue Panorama and Wind Jet singned a MoU in order to merge into Alitalia pending antitrust approval.

So far news available in Italian only.

http://www.rainews24.rai.it/it/news.php?newsid=161018

http://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/notiz...windjet-185847.shtml?uuid=AabvYUiE

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User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8552 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4316 times:
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I have never understood how the AZ/AP combo got through the regulators, and now AZ want to absorb more Italian airlines? What is going on?


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User currently offlineLIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4295 times:

Air One is now the lowfare brand of Alitalia (something similar to Germanwings for LH, Transavia for AF-KL or Vueling for Iberia).

User currently offlineLIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4246 times:

ALITALIA MERGING WITH WIND JET AND BLUE PANORAMA

19:20 25 GEN 2012

(AGI) Rome - The Alitalia airlines board of directors has begun to finalize its merger with Wind Jet and Blue Panorama airline companies. Founded in 2003, Wind Jet has 6.2% (in 2011) of the domestic market with hubs in Catania, Palermo and Rimini, a fleet of Airbus jets carrying more than 2.8 million passengers in 2011. Blue Panorama was founded in 1998 and is based in Rome's Fiumicino airport and Milan's Malpensa airport. It conducts international charter operations with Blue Panorama and short and medium operations with Blu-Express.


(more...)
http://www.agi.it/english-version/bu...ng_with_wind_jet_and_blue_panorama


User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7884 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3769 times:

Anyone have a routemap of the merged airlines?


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User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2417 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3459 times:

Quoting LIPZ (Reply 3):
ALITALIA MERGING WITH WIND JET AND BLUE PANORAMA



What is the reason for this step?! Okay, more shares in the Italian domestic market- but how does a charter operator with a low cost unit and a pure no frill carrier fit into AZ/AP ops?

Very sad times in the Italian market, in terms of competition. On one side will be MERIDIANAfly (ex Meridiana, eurofly and Air Italy) and on the other ALITALIA (Aliatlia, Air One, Windjet, Blue Panorama/Blue Express).


User currently offlineLIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3444 times:

Don't forget that easyJet and Ryanair are 2 other important players in the domestic Italian market.

User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3437 times:

Interesting move. The rationalisation of airlines in Europe is gathering pace.

It's a move that makes sense in an open market like the EU, with less emphasis on having many different carriers in each country, but thinking on a bigger picture scale. The larger the group, the broader the reach in different market segments.

[Edited 2012-01-26 04:08:47]

User currently onlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3180 times:

Quoting debonair (Reply 5):
Okay, more shares in the Italian domestic market- but how does a charter operator with a low cost unit and a pure no frill carrier fit into AZ/AP ops?

I'd have thought reducing competition is part of the reason. For example three airlines currently operate FCO-CTA, AZ, Windjet and Blu Express. If the deal happens Windjet/Blu Express will disappear, potentially leaving AZ with a monopoly on the route unless someone else starts it



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2948 times:

When is the first Blue Panorama 763ER expected to be painted in AZ colors?

A388


User currently offlinealitalia610 From Italy, joined Aug 2005, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 7 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2636 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 8):

I wonder what will happen to all the routes now operated by IV from CTA and PMO...

I fly the CTA-FCO multiple times every month and i always liked the possibility to choose between a lot of flights by AZ,IV and BV.
90% of those flights were fully booked and you got to remember that now the FCO-CTA is the busiest route in Italy for number of pax(but with a low yeld).
At this point i think that IG(that codeshare with IV on the route) and U2(that already operate on FCO-PMO) will start the FCO-CTA.
About FR i think they are waiting the next opening of Comiso airport in southern Sicily to open flights to CIA,BGY and PSA at least.

Talking about the airlines involved:
About Windjet what can i say...i fly it just because is cheap(but not as cheap like FR or U2 for example) but i think is the WORST airline in Italy...
It's planes are in terrible conditions(all of them are leased and comes from various airlines around the world),minimum in-flight service,the on-time performance is the worst possible,ground staff is unreliable.
I know a lot of IV employees(and pretty much all IV employees are sicilian),both ground and flight crews,and they know that their airline is just like i described it...
By the way some months ago rumours about financial problems of this airline started spreading around...they have problems paying the employees,paying for the maintainance and they had some planes stuck in airports around Europe(i know of one in AMS and even three in Moscow) for some non-payments.

So this take over by AZ poses some problems anyway:
1)What will happen to IV A319-A320 fleet? As i said they are in pretty bad shape and at least they'll need a renewal of the interiors and some of them are IAE powered(AZ 320 family is CFM powered).
2)What will happen to IV route system? The have hubs in CTA,PMO and RMI(Rimini is the hub for east European routes). I really don't think that AZ will keep RMI and i also think that a lot of direct routes from Sicily will be re-routed to connections flights via FCO.
3)What will happen to IV employees? As i said pretty much all of them are Sicilian so in case of jobs cuts i expect strong opposition from the local government. Windjet is really important for the economy of Catania and Palermo.
4)How much will AZ pay for IV and what is gonna do with the financial debt of IV?

Now talking about Blue Panorama and it's low cost brand Blu-Express:
I always thought that it was a good airline,with good on time performance,old planes but well mantained and with nice interiors,good in-flight service and a route system that worked as gap-filler on some routes not covered by other airlines.
This summer i started seeing some troubles,with flights delayed many hours and planes with technical issues(i was on a 757 at CTA that coudn't start the engines and at the end the flight was 5 hours late for example).
I also found difficult to understand the sudden use of 757 or even 767 on a route like CTA-FCO.
But in general BPA is considered to be and airline in good shape so this comes as a complete surprise.
What AZ will do with BPA?
Probably it's Blu-Express 737 will be leased out and the routes will be redeployed to AP,and about the long-haul network i wonder if AZ will keep both the planes and the routes. There is the possibily that BPA brand will remain active as the charter subsidiary of AZ.


User currently offlineAquila3 From Italy, joined Nov 2010, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 7 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2576 times:

Quoting LIPZ (Reply 6):
Don't forget that easyJet and Ryanair are 2 other important players in the domestic Italian market.

Thanks God!



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User currently offlinePezySPU From Croatia, joined Dec 2011, 283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 7 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2404 times:

Quoting alitalia610 (Reply 10):
1)What will happen to IV A319-A320 fleet? As i said they are in pretty bad shape and at least they'll need a renewal of the interiors and some of them are IAE powered(AZ 320 family is CFM powered).

You said it, they are all leased. Just return them at the end of the lease if they are really that bad.


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