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American Unveils 777-300ER With Sky Interior  
User currently offline4engines4lnghll From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 65 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 32310 times:
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WOW! Looks fantastic! here is the link:


http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...merican-unveils-777-300er-wit.html


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31053 posts, RR: 87
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 32324 times:
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The new First Class and Business Class seating looks very nice.

User currently offlineusxguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1021 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 32284 times:

except for the fact that coach will be in a crampy 3 x 4 x 3 configuration... ouch!!!


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User currently offline4engines4lnghll From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 32273 times:
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I know how will that even work!?

[Edited 2012-01-26 15:47:01]


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User currently offlinejpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4389 posts, RR: 27
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 32076 times:

Quoting usxguy (Reply 2):
except for the fact that coach will be in a crampy 3 x 4 x 3 configuration... ouch!!!

Do we know this yet?



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User currently offlineusxguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1021 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 31998 times:

yes.. its being discussed on FlyerTalk and AA said that the premium economy will be 3 x 3 x 3 and regular economy will be 3 x 4 x 3....

I know that 737 seats are only 17" wide as well, but at least on 737s you have a bit of room because of the armrest.



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User currently offlinejpetekyxmd80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4389 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 31928 times:

Wow, thanks for the heads up.


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User currently offlinebcworld From Australia, joined May 2011, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 31907 times:

Quoting 4engines4lnghll (Reply 3):
I know how will that even work!?

Same way it already works on Emirates, Air New Zealand, Air France...and I'm sure a few others.

And if you look at the image at the bottom of the flightglobal article you see the answer....very narrow aisles!

[Edited 2012-01-26 16:14:19]

User currently offlineTinosky From Canada, joined Mar 2010, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 31832 times:

wow! looks amazing...

Tinosky


User currently offlineTeamInTheSky From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 31838 times:

That is a great looking DL plane! I am only kidding, very nice though....


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User currently offlineghifty From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 891 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 31852 times:

When I saw the image of the entryway I literally yelled/said "WOW." It's quite a nice step backward for AA! (Backward into the pre-deregulaton era, )

I have to say, the renderings of the new J and C cabins lead me to think that AA intends to revamp it's entire brand image. Yes, I feel like a new livery (or livery update) may be in the works.



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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9661 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 31420 times:

Configuration should be roughly 8F 52J 30W 220Y.

10 abreast economy on the 777 is being expanded to another airline.



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User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3310 posts, RR: 45
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 31271 times:

Wow, that J class looks great! Certainly looks on par with some of the J/F hybrids other US airlines offer, at least IMO. And the Flagship Suite continues to keep its style, while updating it! Fantastic!

I assume these products will be rolled out on the 77E and 763?

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineSpeedbird741 From Portugal, joined Aug 2008, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 31251 times:

Looking good there! It seems that American is very slowly evolving from the current garbage of an airline that it is into the prime carrier that passengers look forward to flying with, which it once was. Now, they mustn't forget to tackle that horrible ground and onboard service because seats and TVs are not enough. Fingers crossed for AA!

Speedbird741



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User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5514 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 31117 times:

The biz class shot on the Facebook page is interesting. It appears that they have new ceiling panels (over the aisles) and have changed the bin handles. Are these changes real, and are they coming to other new 777s?

User currently offlinePacificClipper From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 30801 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 13):
10 abreast economy on the 777 is being expanded to another airline.

Is that a statement about the change at AA, or some other airline in addition to AA?



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User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5514 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 30744 times:

Quoting jpetekyxmd80 (Reply 5):
Do we know this yet?

The picture in the article shows a bank of 4 Y seats. I think it's safe to infer that the configuration will be 3-4-3.

3-4-3 for Y on the 777 is the way of the future, whether we like it or not. A 3-3-3 777 can't even come close to competing against a 3-3-3 A350 or 787.


User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8287 posts, RR: 23
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 30584 times:

Seeing as the 777 was built for coach with 9 abreast seating, I don't care how fancy an entryway is, I won't be flying on it. It's bad enough that the airlines are bogarting your legspace, let alone cramming another freaking seat in laterally. Lame!!


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User currently offlineblink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 30497 times:

Question: AA states that they will introduce a modified version of the Flagship Suite. Does anybody know what will be enhanced? All I can see is a larger TV monitor and more privacy in the reclined position.


Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently onlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5681 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 30318 times:

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 19):
3-4-3 for Y on the 777 is the way of the future, whether we like it or not

Except by voting with our $$s. Which is exactly what I have done and it's NZ's loss and UA gain. Yes I'll take a fairly crappie, non AVOD B744 over a 10 abreast B777 any day, I've done four long sectors on EK's, never again!

Gemuser



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User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5514 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 30304 times:

Quoting gemuser (Reply 22):
es I'll take a fairly crappie, non AVOD B744 over a 10 abreast B777 any day

744s have much narrower seats than 9Y 777s. The difference between a 744 and a 10Y 777 generally ranges from zero to a quarter of an inch, depending on the width of the aisles on the 777.


User currently onlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32867 posts, RR: 71
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 30205 times:

Quoting blink182 (Reply 21):

Question: AA states that they will introduce a modified version of the Flagship Suite. Does anybody know what will be enhanced? All I can see is a larger TV monitor and more privacy in the reclined position.


It's a totally new seat. Same basic idea, but entirely redesigned.



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User currently onlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5681 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 30240 times:

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 23):
744s have much narrower seats than 9Y 777s. The difference between a 744 and a 10Y 777 generally ranges from zero to a quarter of an inch, depending on the width of the aisles on the 777.

From personal experience: I fit in a 10 abreast B744 seat on QF, BA,JL, AF; I do not fit in a 10 abreast B77W seat on EK. It's more like 15 to 20mm in practice than 6mm IN MY EXPERIENCE, your experience may vary, but I'm not spending my $$s on anybodies 10 abreast B777.

Gemuser



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User currently offlinechrisrad From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1069 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 29421 times:

Quoting gemuser (Reply 25):
From personal experience: I fit in a 10 abreast B744 seat on QF, BA,JL, AF; I do not fit in a 10 abreast B77W seat on EK. It's more like 15 to 20mm in practice than 6mm IN MY EXPERIENCE, your experience may vary, but I'm not spending my $$s on anybodies 10 abreast B777.

Gemuser

Agreed

Am I the only one underwhelmed by this interior? Stars on the ceiling, Airbus has been doing that with EK since they got the A345?



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User currently offlinegaystudpilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 456 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 28606 times:

Quoting TeamInTheSky (Reply 11):
That is a great looking DL plane! I am only kidding, very nice though....

DL's interpretation, design, and execution of this seat is awful. The materials and color palette are cold and cheap looking and sadly, move the brand further away from that of a true global player. the came can be said for DLs other premium seats.

Quoting gemuser (Reply 22):
Except by voting with our $$s. Which is exactly what I have done and it's NZ's loss and UA gain. Yes I'll take a fairly crappie, non AVOD B744 over a 10 abreast B777 any day, I've done four long sectors on EK's, never again!

What is the seat pitch in AA's new 3-4-3 config Y cabin? While I have only flown EK in J, at least EK offers 34" pitch as consolation. Regardless, I understand the claustrophobic, uncomfortable, high density flyer experience.


25 commavia : F and J look really awesome - these appear to be easily the best premium cabins of any U.S. airline. Y looks great, too, except the 3-4-3, which sucks
26 gaystudpilot : "American will also offer an Economy Class premium seat product, which will include additional legroom for seats in the forward portion of the cabin,
27 gaystudpilot : AA can certainly not move any slower than DL!
28 gaystudpilot : AA did a great job with F and J. How will other service elements improve? My partner and I have flown paid F on BA on their new product. I'm not sure
29 YULWinterSkies : Y looks just horribly disgusting. Narrow, cramped and what looks like a very uncomfortable seat with a big plastic shell. I doubt my back would handle
30 tonystan : Im kinda confused about how you come to this conclusion based on a computer generated image of the seats! It looks very similar to the new BA economy
31 BMI727 : Isn't that kind of what coach is?
32 Atlflyer : The way of the future is more and more Titanic-like every round of upgrades. J and F get more and more luxurious and basic Y gets worse. So many airli
33 AA77W : Has AA announced how many Seats will be in each cabin. F J Y? Also, there was talk circulating that AA would be introducing a Y+ product on its intern
34 caliboy78 : AA hasn't announce anything about the final number of seats on the 773, not internally or to the public. What we saw today was just pictures from the
35 jpetekyxmd80 : What i've heard from those who claim to know is. .. 8F 52J 30W 220Y. You can take that with a grain of salt, but I put a lot of credibility in it sinc
36 LAX888 : The J class seat looks like the same on on CX doesn't it? If only they upgraded the 772ER...
37 vhtje : I wouldn't be so sure. I think with the tie up with BA they need to offer comparable cabins across the pond. I've read in these forums many times tha
38 ual777uk : The whole set up looks much much better overall than the current offerinfs but please AA, dont go 10 across in Y, its a bloody horrible experience on
39 migair54 : 3-4-3 is the most probable configuration, given that many airlines in the world use already (many examples above) and maximizing the capacity of the p
40 na : Sign of the times. The rich get richer, the poor poorer. Design Chic for the well-heeled, sardine can for the ordinary man. 10 seat per row in Eco in
41 Post contains images FriendlySkiesUK : Wow for the first time in many (many) years I think I will be wanting to fly with AA! While I normally fly First or Business class those Economy class
42 GEN2STEW : QUOTING Atlflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 614 posts, RR: 0 Reply 32, posted Fri Jan 27 2012 01:18:45 your local time (5 hours 2
43 gdg9 : I wonder... can we 'look forward' to the 772 fleet being revamped into 3-4-3 ?
44 knoxibus : For your information, J seat is the Sicma Cirrus (marketed by Weber in the US), i.e. the same as US Airways and Cathay Pacific. So technically US Air
45 AAIL86 : Hey now- steerage on the Titanic was an improvement over previous ships (fewer rats, tastier gruel, etc). 3-4-3 in the back is certainly a step backw
46 SuperCaravelle : Actually, apart from the last few years, income inequality has declined for centuries now. 50 years ago there was no cramped Y class because these pe
47 CXB77L : Does the new 'Sky Interior' include 787 style overhead bins? Or is it just the ceiling in the entry area? ANA and JAL's domestic and regional 777s are
48 ripcordd : These new seats are all going the way of streamline One World products across the world their whole goal is not to be able to tell what airline your f
49 ual777uk : You are right to degree but lets not forget that the average LCC is just flying you 2 - 3 hours in cramped conditions. When you double that length of
50 blink182 : I don't think its quite that simple. I realize that for the most part, WN, B6, and VX's labor costs are not as high as the legacies, but they offer p
51 blink182 : True, but standardizing seats saves the worry about whether you'll have a power outlet on one airline vs. the next, for example. In any case, if the
52 seabosdca : People keep saying this. And they keep being wrong. MRTC proved it. Song proved it. Virgin America is proving it today; they can't get a yield premiu
53 Post contains images fxramper : I think they both look boring and flat. Overall they missed the mark and could have done a lot more.
54 SonomaFlyer : Folks, most flyers aren't A-Netters. The public has time and again made the choice based on price. Even de minims differences in price on long flights
55 sxf24 : The number of seats in each cabin has been determined and is available to those in the know, both inside and outside of the company. I can confirm th
56 Jetlagged : There's nothing new about such lighting in the ceiling, even if the technology is new. I remember flying in a Kenya Airways 707-351 in the mid 1980s.
57 divemaster08 : does it say somewhere that its going to be 3-4-3? I cant find it. AA have always used 2-5-2 in their 777s, so that photo of Y could still be in 2-5-2.
58 777STL : 10 abreast in Y? If this becomes the standard on all T7s, I think I'm going to take my business to UA. I would be interested to see what the business
59 LDVAviation : I don't know if these things matter to you, but they do to me. Look closely at the shell of the F seat. It seems like it is covered in a textured, so
60 JFKPurser : With only a 63 seat net gain in total pax count vs the 772, it seems impossible that the seating arrangement could be changing to 10 abreast. Nor hav
61 deltaflyertoo : I have not been on a 10 a breast 777 yet and recently passed on booking one w/ Air France from LAX to CDG on account it just freaked me out. Now after
62 AirbusA6 : No offence intended, but most Americans tend to be on the, ahem, larger side, when compared with the rest of the world. 10 Asians might be able to fit
63 jpetekyxmd80 : Thats a very good and valid point. A lot from the aisle, it's very noticeable.
64 Longhornmaniac : I'm looking at the photos of the Y cabin, and I see absolutely no evidence this is a 3-4-3. None. 0. Yes, the second row shows 4 seats. Which could al
65 BOACCunard : Very, very nice. It doesn't look like a US-based airline, and I mean that in the best possible way. Not sure about the seating configuration in Y thou
66 seabosdca : The most typical 9Y configurations have seats between 18" and 18.5". This is the same width as 767 7Y seats or A330/A340 8Y seats. Some A320s also ha
67 Post contains images AAIL86 : @SuperCaravelle not quite from the start... it was rather pleasant for about 4 days Agreed. Nothing definitive about that has been released that I've
68 CXB77L : It could even be a 3-4-2 configuration. Granted, this configuration is quite rare, but it's possible. I haven't seen a publication from AA or anyone
69 Post contains images aircanada014 : damn that's awesome, why didn't AC go with that Sky Interior too ?
70 Post contains links AirbusA6 : http://www.aa.com/i18n/amrcorp/newsr...p?v_locale=en_US&v_mobileUAFlag=AA Those photos are on the AA website, so are genuinely what we would get.
71 timf : If you look at the second row of seats from the front, the spacing clearly indicates there is a group of 4 seats, and then an additional seat across
72 jfk777 : what is the configuration for teh AA 77W ? love to see a seat map ?
73 777STL : It's been confirmed by multiple sources in the know that the arrangement in Y will in fact be 3-4-3. You have to take into account here that F class
74 Post contains images crAAzy : Well, multiple "sources in the know" have been known to be wrong in the past. Until we get an official seat map from AA and/or we see pictures no one
75 jmc1975 : Very well said!
76 AAIL86 : Why don't you enlighten us?
77 caliboy78 : As I said before those are mock up pictures from the vendor to show us what the seats would look like. Heck the first 773 hasn't even being built yet.
78 777STL : Let's just say that there are people who have seen the seat map and have leaked the information. It is 3-4-3, there's no debate here, and no, I'm not
79 hkg212 : Unfortunately the image seems to show one truly bad detail copied from the CX seat -- the "cut" in the seat's wrapping shell on the aisle side. This
80 AAIL86 : I spent 8 years with AA including several in management. I still work in the industry elsewhere. How about you? If you want to spread rumors, be prep
81 Viscount724 : Probably wasn't available then..
82 AA767400 : You better cross off KL off your list. They have 390 seats on their 77Ws with 3-4-3 configuration.
83 gaystudpilot : Delete KL. Add SQ.
84 jfk777 : Any Y+ photos, 8 accross like BA or an economy deat with 35 inch legroom ?
85 jfk777 : Any Y+ photos, 8 accross like BA or an economy deat with 35 inch legroom ?
86 Post contains images tonystan : I can see this being a marketing disaster for AA if they go ahead with a 10 abreast 777 cabin for the simple reason that Americans as a nation are ver
87 blink182 : As discussed ad nauseum on these forums, most US customers in Y are booking on the sole basis of fare. Frankly, many of these people are going to com
88 gaystudpilot : "Marketing disaster"? Maybe not is AA is planning to lead the way with a strategic sponsorship in the Stop Obesity in America campaign. It is so sad
89 usxguy : I find it interesting that AA has "edited" the 777 Y photo and zoomed in so you can't tell how many seats are in the middle section :P But look at tha
90 SESGDL : I'm quite impressed with the AA new F seat, looks incredible, definitely the best of the US airlines, along with AA following UA and DL's leads in off
91 mogandoCI : never mind the 3-4-3 Y..... if Y+ is 3-3-3 as rumored, it would be the narrowest premium econ of any major carrier (unless they're selling it as "econ
92 PanAm788 : I'm honestly shocked that it hasn't been asked, but does this mean that the 787 Sky Interior is now an option for new build 777s? Kind of big deal met
93 mah4546 : It's not premium economy. It's economy plus with extra legroom.
94 aacun : How long have you been working for AA? Or your sources for that matter? I have been at AA for over 25 years and I see things change every day and ove
95 spacecadet : ANA and JAL do not have 10 abreast 77W's that I know of. They have 10 abreast domestic 777's, where there's no competition except with each other and
96 OzGlobal : Good to finally see a competitive long haul J and F on AA. When these products are extensively rolled out, not withstanding the patchy service from ti
97 777STL : Like I said, I don't have to justify myself to anyone here. You can choose to believe me or not, I really don't care. I will however take my source's
98 sxf24 : Actually, the layout and configuration of the cabin is one of the first things determined. Lead times to order seats, galleys, lavs, and other interi
99 mogandoCI : Or is it the other way around? Since US-based airlines are already on a race to the bottom versus foreign carriers (esp Asian ones), they might as we
100 RoseFlyer : That is also something that confused me. The Sky Interior is a term that I've only heard related to the 737NG. The 777 has already been offered with
101 anonms : It doesn't; the actual headline of the article is "American Unveils 777-300ER With Sky Interior Elements", the elements being an entry way with a rec
102 fco110 : Why does the AA site now reference three class service with the pictures of the new 777? I thought some of the original releases talked about economy
103 BOACCunard : It will still have Y+ but AA is probably not considering it an additional class of service. It is apparently just going to be a section of the Y cabi
104 fco110 : Thanks for the update - I know they were promoting it before but now I do not see it anywhere. Too bad it will not be like BA - although I will welcom
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