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LAN To Strengthen The LIM Hub With New Frequencies  
User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8425 times:

*Tomorrow, LAN Colombia will launch BOG-MIA 4x weekly (A-320); which complements LAN's current thrice weekly non-stop B763 operated services between BOG and MIA.

*Tomorrow, LAN Perú will also increase frequency on both the LIM-CUN and LIM-PUJ routes to daily services. LAN Airlines will also resume its twice weekly non-stop service between LIM and IPC.

*On February 2, 2012, LAN Perú will launch LIM-HAV 3x weekly, (A-319).

*On July 2, 2012, LAN Airlines will operate two daily non-stop flights between SCL and GIG on a year-round basis.

*On July 5, 2012, LAN Perú will increase frequency on the LIM-GRU route from 11x weekly to 2x daily, (B763/A319).

*On August 27, 2012, LAN Perú will increase frequency on the LIM-MIA route to 14x weekly and on October 15, 2012, LAN Perú will further increase frequency on the LIM-MIA route to 17x weekly.

*During September, LAN Perú will add additional frequencies on the LIM-MEX and LIM-SFO routes.

*On October 16, 2012, LAN will increase frequency on the LIM-JFK route from daily to 11x weekly and will also increase frequency on the LIM-LAX route from 10x weekly to 13x weekly.

Link in Spanish:
LAN INCREMENTARÁ FRECUENCIAS A MIAMI, NUEVA YORK Y LOS ÁNGELES

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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17820 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8468 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Thread starter):
LIM-SFO routes.

Oh wow I didn't realize they were down to 3 weekly. Didn't they start with 4 weekly?



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5934 posts, RR: 40
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8427 times:

great news! would love to see them stronger on add flights to CCS from BOG and more to LIM in order to have more connections


Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1984 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 8218 times:

Any new routes or frequencies at IPC?


My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 8198 times:

LAN Cargo has more cargo partners and a larger presence at LAX via its cargo operations. Cargo originating/terminating at or via SFO usually peaks on the route during the summer. Also, LP only code-shares with one Asian carrier at SFO. It's worth noting that these new frequencies to North America are possible since LAN will now receive 9 new B-767-316ERs during this year.

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 8):
Any new routes or frequencies at IPC?

LA LIM-IPC resumes in a couple of hours. Also, LA has added additional frequencies on the SCL-IPC route.

[Edited 2012-01-31 20:35:11]

[Edited 2012-02-06 07:12:51 by SA7700]

User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17820 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 8160 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 9):
LAN Cargo has more cargo partners and a larger presence at LAX via its cargo operations. Cargo originating/terminating at or via SFO usually peaks on the route during the summer. Also, LP only code-shares with one Asian carrier at SFO.

Why are they flying passenger planes to SFO then?



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 8142 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 10):

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 9):
LAN Cargo has more cargo partners and a larger presence at LAX via its cargo operations. Cargo originating/terminating at or via SFO usually peaks on the route during the summer. Also, LP only code-shares with one Asian carrier at SFO.

Why are they flying passenger planes to SFO then?

Obviously because passengers fly on the a/c. Some pax also enjoy the fact that LAN is the only carrier that can fly them non-stop between SFO and LIM, and offer connections via LIM.


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17820 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 8119 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 11):
Obviously because passengers fly on the a/c. Some pax also enjoy the fact that LAN is the only carrier that can fly them non-stop between SFO and LIM, and offer connections via LIM.

So it's a passenger flight that was reduced because all the cargo is going over LAX to Asia. I love the reasoning on a.net sometimes. 



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineAF086 From France, joined Jan 2007, 1066 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7667 times:

Still waiting for the LIM-GIG service with LP. JJ so far did nothing to launch the route themselves. In the meantime, TA sends their warmest thanks.


Please insert a "smart" joke here.
User currently onlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 1028 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7338 times:
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Quoting SCL767 (Thread starter):
During September, LAN Perú will add additional frequencies on the LIM-MEX and LIM-SFO routes

Some nay-sayers said LAN wasn't going to well at SFO, that they should "add more freqeuncies to LAX instead"....

Happy to hear they're adding frequencies to SFO


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17820 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6866 times:

Just curious if we were still doing this charade

Quoting g500 (Reply 18):
Some nay-sayers said LAN wasn't going to well at SFO, that they should "add more freqeuncies to LAX instead"....

According to DOT numbers for the first 7 months of 2011, LAXLIM carries 60+% more cargo per departure than SFOLIM and has a LF that is 8pts higher @ 90%, so adding more LAX is not unreasonable

[Edited 2012-02-06 07:16:01 by SA7700]


E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineAvianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5934 posts, RR: 40
Reply 11, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 6802 times:

well the times we ( my wife and myself used the route, the flights were totally fully booked, a lot of Argentinians, Brazilians, and a lot of Asian people connecting on the One World flights ex SFO!!!

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 19):
According to DOT numbers for the first 7 months of 2011, LAXLIM carries 60+% more cargo per departure than SFOLIM and has a LF that is 8pts higher @ 90%, so adding more LAX is not unreasonable

no surprise regarding cargo, LAX has a lot of cargo demand ex LIMA, but its nearly all commodity business (Asparagues) and SFO still has not good facilitys and work flow for this kind of cargo + LAX is used by several companys to distribute in the west coast

[Edited 2012-02-06 07:17:57 by SA7700]


Colombia es el Mundo Y el Mundo es Colombia
User currently offlineRAGAZZO777 From Uruguay, joined Jul 2010, 592 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6060 times:

Quoting AF086 (Reply 17):
Still waiting for the LIM-GIG service with LP. JJ so far did nothing to launch the route themselves. In the meantime, TA sends their warmest thanks.

Hopefully LP will launch that route this year. I wouldn't be surprised if TACA decides to up its flight frequency on that route before LP makes a move.



JESÚS, TE AMO !!
User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4615 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5475 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Thread starter):
On July 2, 2012, LAN Airlines will operate two daily non-stop flights between SCL and GIG on a year-round basis


LA SCL-GIG 14x weekly with 320 + LA SCL-GRU-GIG 7x weekly with 320.




.

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 4):
EZE-LIM-LAX 3x weekly


This flight is operated and marketed by LAN Peru.




.

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 4):
and plans on opening three new domestic destinations with-in Perú


May we know these new Peruvian destinations or there's nothing accurate at this time?




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Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 13):
TACA Perú will deploy a widebody aircraft (A330) on its LIM-MIA route this year


Source, please.
It makes sense taking into account that TA LIM-MIA is only 7x weekly at this time and LP LIM-MIA with 763 is announcing to increase gradually their operations up to 14x weekly.

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5433 times:

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 22):
LA SCL-GRU-GIG 7x weekly with 320.

LA750/LA751 is operated with a B763 and will be discontinued later this year in order to release a slot pair at GRU.

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 22):

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 4):
and plans on opening three new domestic destinations with-in Perú


May we know these new Peruvian destinations or there's nothing accurate at this time?

Here's a hint:
http://www.andina.com.pe/Espanol/Noticia.aspx?id=6I8UnKo7zf4=

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 22):

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 4):
EZE-LIM-LAX 3x weekly


This flight is operated and marketed by LAN Peru.


That is correct. It will increase in frequency this year. Also, LP/4M will increase frequency on the LIM-EZE route to 23x weekly later this year.

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 22):
It makes sense taking into account that TA LIM-MIA is only 7x weekly at this time and LP LIM-MIA with 763 is announcing to increase gradually their operations up to 14x weekly.

Incorrect, LAN Perú will increase frequency on the LIM-MIA route from 13x weekly to 17x weekly, (B763). Thus, AA/LP will offer 24 weekly non-stop flights with the B763 and 7 weekly non-stop flights with the B752.


User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4615 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5375 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 23):
Thus, AA/LP will offer 24 weekly non-stop flights with the B763 and 7 weekly non-stop flights with the B752.


From October 15th 2012:

AA MIA-LIM 7x weekly with 752
AA MIA-LIM 7x weekly with 763
LP LIM-MIA 17x weekly with 763

A very well served market on OneWorld grouping in such route !

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineRAGAZZO777 From Uruguay, joined Jul 2010, 592 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5371 times:

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 22):
Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 13):
TACA Perú will deploy a widebody aircraft (A330) on its LIM-MIA route this year


Source, please.
It makes sense taking into account that TA LIM-MIA is only 7x weekly at this time

Sorry, no official source. However, a couple of well trusted insiders have revealed (in other aviation forums) that T0 will receive this year up to 2 A330s from AV and that T0 will deploy them first on the LIM-MIA-LIM and LIM-EZE-LIM routes.
Apologies for the off-topic comment.

Regards,



JESÚS, TE AMO !!
User currently offlineairplane From Ecuador, joined Sep 2004, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5314 times:

Its great to see the LAN is has been successful in Peru. Unfortunately LAN Ecuador is falling apart with flight cuts, and massive layoffs just this month.


The sky´s the limit
User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5313 times:

Quoting airplane (Reply 29):
Unfortunately LAN Ecuador is falling apart with flight cuts, and massive layoffs just this month.

LAN Ecuador is not falling apart and only 55 employees will be laid off, (mostly cabin crew). The flight cuts include reverting the UIO-GYE-EZE route back to 5x weekly, reducing the UIO-CUE route from 14x weekly to 12x weekly, and closing the GYE-MIA route in April; which operates 5x weekly. LAN Ecuador will increase frequency on the UIO-MIA route from 6x weekly to daily. PAX traveling on the GYE-MIA route will still have that option via the new code-share agreement with AA.


User currently offlineairplane From Ecuador, joined Sep 2004, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5238 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 30):
LAN Ecuador is not falling apart and only 55 employees will be laid off, (mostly cabin crew). The flight cuts include reverting the UIO-GYE-EZE route back to 5x weekly, reducing the UIO-CUE route from 14x weekly to 12x weekly, and closing the GYE-MIA route in April; which operates 5x weekly. LAN Ecuador will increase frequency on the UIO-MIA route from 6x weekly to daily. PAX traveling on the GYE-MIA route will still have that option via the new code-share agreement with AA.

55 out of nearly 300 cabin crew is a lot.
Domestics did needed the cut.
The GYE-MIA is a great route but it needs a better schedule. Thats why AA 2 daily from UIO and 2 from GYE. Axing the route is a lot.

Since the planes are going back from HC reg. to CC reg., will they keep all the maintenance staff and facilities ?

The cancellation of the fuel benefit for Ecuadorean airlines hit everyone hard. I hope LAN overcomes these problems and stays in Ecuador for good, and shows everyone that they really wanted to build a great airline and not use Ecuador just as a cheap gas station.



The sky´s the limit
User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5194 times:

Quoting airplane (Reply 33):
The GYE-MIA is a great route but it needs a better schedule. Thats why AA 2 daily from UIO and 2 from GYE. Axing the route is a lot.

LAN Ecuador is only dropping four weekly frequencies to the U.S. and two weekly frequencies to Argentina. AA operates MIA-GYE 10x weekly, (B763 daily and B738 3x weekly) and LA operates SCL-GYE-CCS-MIA weekly. LAN Ecuador will continue to operate GYE-JFK, GYE-LIM, GYE-MAD, GYE-SCL, etc. all on a daily basis. The UIO-MIA route will revert back to a daily service.

Quoting airplane (Reply 33):
Since the planes are going back from HC reg. to CC reg., will they keep all the maintenance staff and facilities ?

In order to receive the fuel subsidy, LAN Ecuador had to register its a/c with Ecuadorian registrations. Since Ecuadorian carriers will no longer receive the fuel subsidy, LAN Ecuador no longer has to operate a/c with Ecuadorian registrations. LAN Ecuador is not going anywhere and has the potential to grow its regional operations. For example, LAN Ecuador does not operate into any Colombian cities and routes such as GYE-BOG and UIO-BOG are being examined by LAN Ecuador and LAN Colombia.


User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4615 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5192 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 28):
The A-340-313X will operate on the SCL-LIM-LAX route twice weekly starting on April 17TH through early July



LA 600....SCL 21:15.........00:01+1 LIM 01:10.........08:05 LAX.....Mo, Th, Sa.........340
LA 601....LAX 13:25.........00:01+1 LIM 01:15.........05:40 SCL.....Tu, Fr, Su...........340

The transitory LA SCL-LIM-LAX 3x weekly with 343 will operate until July 04th.


Source: OneWorld timetables.



Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5099 times:

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 35):
The transitory LA SCL-LIM-LAX 3x weekly with 343 will operate until July 04th.

Yes, that is correct. Also, LP is increasing frequencies on several domestic routes as well. For example, both the LIM-IQT and LIM-PIU routes now operate 5x daily. LP would like to serve each domestic destination with at least three daily flights.


User currently offlinerealsim From Spain, joined Apr 2010, 662 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5019 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 28):

It's a transitional arrangement as LAN takes delivery of new B-767-316ERs this year. The A-340-313X will operate on the SCL-LIM-LAX route twice weekly starting on April 17TH through early July. LAN planned on receiving 7 new B-767-316ERs this year, however LAN will now receive 9 new B-767-316ERs this year. Also, as a result, LAN Perú will now receive more than 2 new B-767-316ERs later this year.

LAN will get 9 B763 but will return 2 to lessors, so the net increase of aircraft will be 7. Anyway, it's a big increase. LAN wants one to be deployed in EZE, but the Argentinian Government doesn't want yet. I think 2-3 could go to LAN Colombia, other 2 to LAN Perú and the final one to LAN for the whole system.


User currently offlineIAD380 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 804 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4925 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 32):
LAN hasn't revealed any plans to open any new routes to North America this year as yet.

I wish that LA would add IAD! They have talked about it for years, but so far, they haven't done it. A daily SCL-LIM-IAD flight on a 763 would be wonderful.


25 SJOtoLIR : TA LIM-HAV is 6x weekly nowadays and their frequencies were upgraded last year trying to prevent the incursion of LP LIM-HAV thrice a week. Regards.
26 Post contains links SCL767 : TA won't deter LAN from growing its domestic, regional, and long-haul operations at LIM. LAN continues to grow its international operations at LIM by
27 SJOtoLIR : LP LIM-BSB couldn't sustain that service. TA LIM-BSB is now happy due to the lack of competition in such route. Regards.
28 SCL767 : That's great for TA; however LAN will continue to increase services into Brazil. TA has a long way to go at LIM when it comes to competing with LAN P
29 Avianca : well I think they are already in a good competion, maybe with smaller aircrafts but with a good product,
30 Post contains images SJOtoLIR : Having said that, what happened with the planned LIM-GIG service on either LP or JJ? TA LIM-GIG is active since July 2008 and they've also enjoyed th
31 Avianca : I think we are all waiting that TA is upgrading the service to double daily
32 SCL767 : It appears that LAN is primarily focused on consolidating its operations at GRU from LIM by boosting frequencies into that extremely important hub; t
33 RAGAZZO777 : I think that the LIM-BSB-LIM route could be resumed this year by LA/JJ as part of the merger between them. Regards,
34 Super80DFW : LIM-DFW or BOG-DFW would be nice on LAN or AA with good OneWorld alliance connectivity in DFW. Perhaps AA will give it a try post bankruptcy?
35 SCL767 : It looks like both LAN and AA are aggressively adding more frequencies between South America and the U.S. with LAN adding frequencies from BOG, LIM,
36 Summa767 : You forgot to mention that the GYE-MIA route is being axed altogether.
37 777jaah : A bit misleading, actually they dropped 7x BOG-FLL and changed them for 4x BOG-MIA. It was a net drop of 3 weekly frequencies from BOG to south flori
38 SJOtoLIR : The existence of LAN (BOG-FLL) 7x weekly came from the former Aires era. Regards.
39 Summa767 : Everybody knows that. But it is also true that the new flight to MIA is really a swap from FLL -and with less frequencies at at-
40 Summa767 : I see that the recovery of LIM-CTG that had been talked about for last months never actually materialised. Nor the recovery of LIM-UIO-MDE frequencies
41 C010T3 : Well, BOG-GIG was given preference over more LIM-GIG.
42 Post contains images CamiloA380 : He was just mentioning the connections that other airlines provide. And pointing out that LIM-CTG was supposed to be operating again. Instead of just
43 SCL767 : It's also important to note that LAN has resumed certain services that were cut last year and continues to increase frequencies on many domestic, reg
44 Bogota : Could it maybe be that LAN wanted to open MIA as soon as possible and by supplementing the LA 767 flights they could offer and almost daily operation
45 SCL767 : Luckily, LAN sold its entire fleet of A-318s and AV will receive 5 A-318s from LAN this year. This year, LAN will receive 12 new A-320 family a/c, (i
46 SA7700 : This thread will be archived as it has been gutted from off-topic content and personal attacks. Please note that any posts added after the thread lock
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