I gave a pretty detailed summary of 2011 and we continued on with more discussions last month.
IST is having a pretty hard time with snow these days and TK and others are having bunch of cancellations due to snow.
Good Luck to all that have to go through that mess.
Please continue here with more news, photos, ideas, rumors, complaints and the usual good sense of humor.
TurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1408 posts, RR: 9 Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 10605 times:
Yesterday evening I was supposed to fly Anadolujet between ADB and SAW (20:00 flight). However, I found out that one of my best friends was flying the same route an hour before on Sunexpress (19:05 flight). I booked this ticket and arrived in SAW only about an hour late after a rather shaky take off in ADB due to heavy winds and a surprisingly smooth landing in SAW despite the snow.
Before I went to bed, I checked the status of my original Anadolujet flight and saw that the flight left about an hour late but diverted!! Later I found out that the aircraft returned to ADB after a flying time of well over 2 hours.
My ride from SAW to home in Atasehir was way more scary than the flight though... Complete chaos here...
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4110 posts, RR: 13 Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 10406 times:
Quoting OA260 (Reply 4): IST hope things improve weather wise soon .
According to the news, tomorrow's weather to be worse, today TK cancelled close to 200 flights. Not only the airport is having problems with reduced movements, inadequate de-icing or problems "Stylo" explained in the previous thread, the roads are in bad shape also; pax, crews having difficulty getting to the airport.
Here it is, from TK's facebook page, about today's cancelled flights.
OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 24929 posts, RR: 60 Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 10384 times:
Quoting TK787 (Reply 6): According to the news, tomorrow's weather to be worse, today TK cancelled close to 200 flights. Not only the airport is having problems with reduced movements, inadequate de-icing or problems "Stylo" explained in the previous thread, the roads are in bad shape also; pax, crews having difficulty getting to the airport.
Yes one of my Turkish friends who was visiting family in Istanbul and works in Austria only made it out in time. 48 hours later and he would be stranded also . I wonder what the financial implications will be to TK over this. Certainly unhelpful at a time when we need things to run smoothly.
OLYMPIC AIR - ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΚΗ "Η ΕΛΛΑΔΑ ΨΗΛΑ" "GREECE FLYING HIGH"
tcm From Turkey, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10266 times:
It's all sun and wonderful weather here in Bodrum. I hope things improve back at IST by Saturday when I'm due back.
Quoting TurkishWings (Reply 3): Before I went to bed, I checked the status of my original Anadolujet flight and saw that the flight left about an hour late but diverted!! Later I found out that the aircraft returned to ADB after a flying time of well over 2 hours.
Close call; In late 2010 it was all chaos for central and western Europe, this year it's our turn I guess.
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4110 posts, RR: 13 Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 10025 times:
News from my friend who was taking his family to France. Finally got on an Orly flight 32 hours after he arrived at IST for his original flight. As expected no bags after 3 days. He wanted to extend his holiday since he lost a day at IST, TK charged him 50 euros per ticket change fee. Not a happy customer.
stylo777 From Turkey, joined Feb 2006, 2870 posts, RR: 12 Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9604 times:
yesterday, operations went back to "normal" with only a handful cancellations and delays up to one hour. all incoming aircraft are advised to uplift as much fuel for holdings as possible. as far as I know no diversions experienced.
Quoting TK787 (Reply 11): He wanted to extend his holiday since he lost a day at IST, TK charged him 50 euros per ticket change fee. Not a happy customer.
tcm From Turkey, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9189 times:
Quoting TK787 (Reply 18): I hear TK losses for smaller than expected in the 4th quarter, report due in a week.
Looking forward to see the numbers. To be honest, for me, the real indicator will be 2012. With the improving loads and increased frequencies TK should be able to post some good results this year and start to reap the benefits of its investments. There is no excuse for 2012 unless there is war in the middle east.
BTW, the TK BJV lounge is now also operated by Turkish Do&Co. Wow, I love this company and really wish they were in charge of all the cabin service. Maybe even ground services They really add value to TK; kind staff, hot towels for a welcome and much improved catering for a domestic lounge. Also the new terminal will be impressive; looking forward to it.
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4110 posts, RR: 13 Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9141 times:
Looking at IST status today, all aircraft taking off 35R facing North.
TK 9 77W to LAX was the only flight taking off South followed immediately by TK5 343 to ORD taking off North on 35R.
Is there a specific reason for TK9 taking off South?
TK9, right after take off made a left hand turn over the airport to head N/NW.
Another interesting thing; even though initially heading South, TK9 caught up with TK5 and overtook it in less than 5 minutes. I looked at speeds; TK9 77W flying at 429knots, whereas TK5 343 357knots. 77W even with more fuel on board flying that much faster that the 343?
777 have one engine out limitation northbound takeoffs for LAX and GIG flights because of obstructions in sefakoy region. If there no or less cargo carried, they can make northbound, otherwise must go to the sea side.
343 is poor climber especially when it is heavy, my first ride was little scary because whole runway was used and very little positive climb over "fidanlık"
Thanks for this huge info. It sounded really weird listening to the ATC. TK9 was specifically given extra time to position and take off toward the sea, in between all kinds of traffic.
-BA 763 landing at runway 5 followed by TK332F
-343 to ORD on the other side of the runway taking off due North.
I totally agree with you on the 343 hairdryers versus the GE-90. I have been on many 343 rides before my first trip on a 777. And oh boy, what a great power to feel at take off to about 2000feet and than ease down on the throttle and it flies effortlessly.
umit From Turkey, joined May 2009, 120 posts, RR: 3 Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8818 times:
I flew to Zurich on 28th when there was a heavy snow in Istanbul. Check in was disastreus .Only A and B counters were open at 6 am with 3 staff were working in each when there were hundreds of passengers in the lines. I got in to the line at about 5.45 and at 7 finally a guy came around and started shouting if there were any Zurich and Vienna passengers. If it did not happen I would have not made the flight. As usual many passengers started to argue with the staff but answerback was very familiar "go and talk to maneger , this is not my problem" . Flight was smooth and on both ways (return trip was on february 4th) . Even though TK web site shows both legs are operated by 737 both leg was 321 and captains were foreigners.It seems TK is globally ours in the air but not ours on the ground.I wonder why planes reduce the power as soon as they took off ?
Good to hear that you did not have any cancellations and thanks for sharing your experience. I couldn't resist posting this link to the following thread. While I agree that ground services in IST are far from perfect; many ground staff worked long and difficult hours to keep the inconveniences to a minimum.