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Newport News (PHF) Airport To Announce New Airline  
User currently offlineTakeORF From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 10 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12294 times:

Another airline is expected to start service to PHF and will be announced on February 13. AirTran will stop flying there on March 9. The article mentions that jetBlue is the expected airline because it could best fill AirTran's void.

http://articles.dailypress.com/2012-...ws-airport-ken-spirito-new-airline

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User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3818 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12279 times:

They have F9..and G4. VX isn't a realistic option... They need NYC and BOS, making B6 the only "fit" I can think of. Anything else will surprise me.

User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3049 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12239 times:

That would be great! I would imagine JetBlue could do well there, as the Hampton Roads area is a huge metro and with all the military people, should have lots of comings & goings. We flew into PHF last year and really liked it. I really hope PHF grows, as I think it should!


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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2891 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12242 times:

So from the article, based on FL's departure:

"As part of its merger with Southwest Airlines, AirTran will cease its Newport News operation March 9. That decision, announced last summer, has had airport officials scrambling to fill the gap that will be left by the departure of the Peninsula's most popular air travel service that currently provides flights to New York, Boston, Atlanta and Orlando."


...the only thing that B6 wouldn't touch right now would be ATL, but could provide service to JFK, BOS and MCO (although G4 does service to the Orlando Area). Makes me think that B6 is going to be making an announcement soon...should be a nice addition if it's true!!

[Edited 2012-02-01 15:26:57]


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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12102 times:

BOS will no longer have any flights to the Hampton Roads area of Virginia, ORF or PHF, so I think it's quite likely that B6 will step in. I'm hoping for that. I wonder if B6 will announce any other routes at the same time, especially since their anniversary is coming February 11 and they just got slots at LGA and DCA.

[Edited 2012-02-01 15:51:07]


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User currently offlinemijoatlanta From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11898 times:

I agree B6 makes perfect sense excluding MCO but I think RIC has to be considered in the scheme of things. It was the proximity of Newport News to Richmond and Norfolk that seemed to be the reason for AirTran to drop PHF. Does it seem likely that B6 would serve both RIC and PHF? Could they consolidate in Newport News? Will be interesting to see what happens.

User currently offlineCIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2313 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11834 times:

B6 would be a nice fit, and PHF is on the east coast where B6 is popular. The only other one I can think of would be NK with maybe flights to FLL.

User currently offlineFURUREFA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 803 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11808 times:

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 4):
BOS will no longer have any flights to the Hampton Roads area of Virginia, ORF or PHF,

Is DL ending BOS-ORF service?


User currently offlineTakeORF From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11796 times:

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 4):

BOS will no longer have any flights to the Hampton Roads area of Virginia, ORF or PHF, so I think it's quite likely that B6 will step in.

DL has BOS service from ORF 2x daily on RJs.

But I do agree B6 will most likely be the newest airline at PHF.


User currently offlineb757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1382 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11713 times:

B6 is an interesting thought. I personally thought Spirit considering all the press they have been doing lately.


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User currently offlineBeechToBus From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11675 times:

Quoting b757capt:

Agreed, I believe that if it is between NK and B6, it would be NK simply because it seems that if B6 were to serve Hampton Roads, they would use the more central ORF. NK has been regularly adding second tier airports like PHF as of late.


User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7244 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11673 times:

Quoting BeechToBus (Reply 10):
Agreed, I believe that if it is between NK and B6, i

I'd bet it is NK. They are announcing a bunch of stuff this week.


User currently offlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6771 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11652 times:

I'm going to go with NK to 1x DFW, 1x FLL, and 2 weekly MYR?


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User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3818 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 3 days ago) and read 11555 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 11):
I'd bet it is NK. They are announcing a bunch of stuff this week.

Forgot about that option.. I'm hoping it's B6 though. There are a few other places I'd like to see NK put their metal.


User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 11394 times:

Quoting TakeORF (Reply 8):

DL has BOS service from ORF 2x daily on RJs.

Oops, I forgot about that one!

Quoting mijoatlanta (Reply 5):
Does it seem likely that B6 would serve both RIC and PHF?

I don't see why not, IIRC AA served both BOS-RIC and BOS-ORF, and since B6 no longer flies JFK-RIC it won't eat out of those flights.

Quoting b757capt (Reply 9):
B6 is an interesting thought. I personally thought Spirit considering all the press they have been doing lately.

I would guess B6 and am hoping for it, but I wouldn't rule out NK either.



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User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5912 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11361 times:
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This is the surprise announcement from AS with nonstops between SEA and PHF. Yeah right...just joking.

User currently onlinevatveng From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 972 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11317 times:

AirTran made PHF and RIC work for years, so I've never bought the "...but it's too close to XXX" argument. And even though the two airports are only 60 miles apart, I-64 is a barrier for a lot of people considering which airport to fly from. There's also Southside Hampton Roads residents who do use PHF but wouldn't even consider RIC because it's well over a two hour drive from Virginia Beach, especially with Southwest at ORF. JetBlue could grab a lot of those pax at PHF.


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User currently offlineaerlingusa330 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10953 times:

B6 will probably start up a PHF-JFK route. Don't forget that B6 does not serve JFK from RIC, only BOS now because of the competition on the route, so this would be a logical fit because there is no competition on the PHF-JFK route like there is from RIC.

I think it'd be too big of a gamble for NK to start service into PHF.



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User currently onlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2705 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10506 times:

Emirates?   

Seriously though, PHF has been lobbying airlines to come there ever since they learned they wouldn't survive the WN/FL merger. They have a passenger friendly terminal with about 10-12 gates with jetways.

My first thought when I saw the thread title was Spirit. They would fill a void between PHF-Florida and PHF-Northeast and maybe a route or two westbound from PHF.

Jetblue could also be a possibility for Northeast and Florida routes. I would have always thought Jetblue would pick ORF over PHF because ORF is further away from RIC than PHF and there is a bigger population near ORF. However, PHF might have offered Jetblue some very good incentives to go there.

The problem with PHF is that it sits on the other side of the Hampton Roads Bridge-Tunnel from ORF. Anybody who lives in this region, including myself, know that the tunnel is a major bottleneck with backups of 4+ miles on a daily basis and God only knows what the traffic will be like on the other side. I am willing to pay a somewhat higher fare to fly out of ORF than put up with the drive to PHF.


User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25332 posts, RR: 85
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10384 times:
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Quoting Kcrwflyer (Reply 1):
They have F9..and G4. VX isn't a realistic option... They need NYC and BOS, making B6 the only "fit" I can think of. Anything else will surprise me.

According to this article, it isn't JetBlue:

http://www.dailypress.com/news/traff...-airlines-20120202,0,6661661.story

"Jet Blue not coming to Newport News airport; new carrier still a mystery

Despite speculation earlier this week, Jet Blue will not be establishing a Newport News-Williamsburg International Airport operation — at least for now."


PHF is also expecting some expansion by an existing carrier:

" airport officials confirmed Thursday that another announcement will be made soon regarding an existing carrier that will expand its Peninsula-based service."

My guess would be Allegiant for that. I can't think where else Frontier would fly from PHF, but I'm ready to be wrong.

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User currently offlinestaralliance38 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1445 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10317 times:

http://www.dailypress.com/news/traff...-airlines-20120202,0,6661661.story

Looks like it's not jetBlue according to the Daily Press.

Personally, I prefer flying PHF over ORF. The fares tend to be cheaper out of PHF as well. I could see Spirit coming to town. That would be cool.

The mystery continues...



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User currently offlineBeechToBus From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10116 times:

Love the expert reporting; I wonder if AA now knows they are headquartered in Miami.

User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32896 posts, RR: 71
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9644 times:

If it's not Spirit, I'd be surprised. NK makes perfect sense.

Quoting BeechToBus (Reply 21):

Love the expert reporting; I wonder if AA now knows they are headquartered in Miami.


While officially HQd in Dallas, and the reporter should have clearly noted that, AA does run a sort of dual-HQ structure with a second, smaller HQ ops in Miami. It's a vestige of the Eastern merger that has somehow survived, and actually I'm told creates some tension because the two ops often disagree on many things.



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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9545 times:

Quoting staralliance38 (Reply 20):
Looks like it's not jetBlue according to the Daily Press.

Interestingly, that article does not cite any sources. I wonder who told them that.



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User currently offlineROSWELL41 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 785 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9298 times:

NK service to DFW and ORD perhaps?

25 Post contains links vatveng : Most likely the airport, since they posted a link to the article on their Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/FLYPHF
26 STT757 : I agree, NK has been in expansion mode lately. MCO and perhaps ORD or BOS?
27 ScottB : The executive director of PHF says the new airline will "set a new standard" at PHF. He didn't say if it was a high standard, so I'd be inclined to t
28 wjcandee : I know that Texas Air bought Eastern, and I thought it folded while owned by Texas Air (parent of CO). What did AA have to do with Eastern? (Did it b
29 STT757 : AA purchased their Latin America routes from Eastern during Eastern's bankruptcy and a year before they ceased operations. AA also purchased their MIA
30 Post contains images BOStonsox : You're right, someone from the airport was quoted. I don't know how I missed that. I'd been up since 4am, that might have something to do with it.
31 flyiguy : Does Alligient have service to PHF? If you look on their website you can book flights from Newport News to Orlando starting after the announcement dat
32 Post contains links flyiguy : http://articles.dailypress.com/2011-...to-allegiant-air-low-cost-carriers It is alligient Fly
33 Kcrwflyer : That article is from august...back when they announced.
34 kingcavalier : Yes, the G4 announcement was made about a week after the FL pullout was announced. It can't be G4. That is old news.
35 Post contains links vatveng : According to the Daily Press, it's going to be a startup airline based at PHF: http://www.dailypress.com/news/traff...line-0210-20120209,0,5289948.sto
36 CIDFlyer : well that is certainly more interesting....although with the last start up I can think of Skybus, and also Vision trying to be schedule...I dont reall
37 FreequentFlier : An airline headquartered in Newport News, VA? If this comes to pass, NOW I've officially seen everything. I suspect the proposed California Pacific A
38 point2point : Heavens to Betsy....... sincerely, I would only wish the best for all involved, but if this new carrier, is anything like this new carrier California
39 GentFromAlaska : Wouldn't a new start up and especially an LCC be identifiable using the FAA Federal Air Regs (FAR) parts 120 and 121. I'm FAR challenged so bare with
40 daviation : Back in the 1970s, I flew on a National Airlines B727 from Newport News (visiting a friend at William & Mary) to Norfolk. How far is that distance
41 rl757pvd : They could have pursued them until they were blue in the face, doesnt mean they would come. B6 especially no, NK maybe, but they probably wouldnt be
42 mijoatlanta : The "bookend" comment soo speaks for the central location of PHF. Sure, people in Va Beach wouldn't go to RIC and people in RIC wouldn't go to Norfolk
43 Post contains links GentFromAlaska : TripAdvisor.com recently awarded Williamsburg the number one spot as a favorite family vacation spot http://www.tripadvisor.com/TravelersChoice-Family
44 mijoatlanta : Which begs to explain the choice of "Newport News" as a base for a startup. Sure, any startup in this environment is risky but Newport News is part o
45 staralliance38 : And to be honest, the Peninsula and the western cities have the most potential for growth in the Hampton Roads region. Hometown airline? Oh boy...Sti
46 747400sp : I was thinking about making the same post, but I procrastinated, and you beat me to it. I am uses to seeing DC-9 types ( MD-88s, 717-200s) fling into
47 Post contains links bohica : Announcement at 1600 EST 02/13/12 http://www.dailypress.com/news/traff...line-0210-20120209,0,5289948.story
48 FlyPNS1 : But PHF is in the middle where the fewest people live. The combined RIC, PHF and ORF service area is about 3 million in total population. However, do
49 mijoatlanta : I agree with a lot of your points. And yes, after dereg, the airlines for the most part fled PHF. Even I was amazed over the years how many people fr
50 rl757pvd : I think it really will come down to what their model is and what their route network will be, hopefully those details will be revealed this afternoon.
51 GentFromAlaska : PHF to certain extent is to ORF and maybe RIC as CHA is to ATL. I've flown out of both airports. I take PHF any day over ORF. Just as I would use CHA
52 Post contains links aerlingusa330 : The new airline is said to be under the company name "Airline Management, LLC" and headed up by an ODU grad by the name of Michael Morisi. He's also a
53 Post contains links YNGguins : The new airline is PeopleExpress: http://www.flypex.com/index.html Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/PEOPLE_Express During an official presentation comp
54 richierich : Somebody is seriously ressurrecting PeopleExpress from the grave? And they're basing it in Norfolk? Now I HAVE SEEN EVERYTHING.
55 Post contains images point2point : oy vey....... All the best to this group, and to PHF...... but .......?????
56 Post contains links vatveng : Press kit: http://www.flypex.com/includes/pressKit.pdf They're starting with a fleet of B734s.
57 777fan : Wow, that's hot, as in "a hot mess." I wonder if they got the idea from reading one of our threads...while drunk! Best wishes for all, but I just don'
58 Post contains links and images bohica : There's a picture of one in the article. http://www.dailypress.com/news/traff...w-airline-20120213,0,7035417.story
59 tharanga : Is this an april fool's joke?
60 GentFromAlaska : Aarrg! I'm having a mid 1980's flashback. What's next Disco? I wonder if POB (Pay On-Board) will make a return. How does one get through TSA screenin
61 747400sp : What in the world! Even Though I like People Express back when I was a kid, I can not believe that they restarting 'it, and it is going to take Air Tr
62 richierich : I guess Tower Air or Kiwi International were not available as names? How did they wrestle this name and brand from United (Continental)? If I take th
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