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Garuda Near A 18 CRJ1000 Order.  
User currently offlinetitus95 From France, joined Feb 2009, 113 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 12 months 1 hour ago) and read 8014 times:
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http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...ier-for-regional-jet-order-367698/


Referring to some reports coming from Indonesia , Garuda has chosen the CRJ1000 for its regional jet requirement .
The 18 units order should be official at the Singapore Air Show in 10 days.

For sure it's a blow for Embraer (can't always be the winner ! ) , and a very appreciated push for Bombardier !

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User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 3042 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 12 months 1 hour ago) and read 7954 times:

Small order at this stage but in a country a size of Indonesia, that could grow significantly.

Good win for the canadians 


User currently offlineQF340500 From Singapore, joined Oct 2011, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 12 months ago) and read 7840 times:

i much prefer the CRJ...! remember flying in LH CRJ700 fro Vienna to Berlin, it felt like in a private jet, kind of... loved the powerful take off and the smooth ride...

Good luck to Canadair  


User currently offlineAirCanadaA330 From Canada, joined Aug 2008, 294 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 12 months ago) and read 7751 times:

Congrads to the CRJ....nice to see a new operator for the 1000!!!

Bombardier must be all smiles



Cheers;
User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2251 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7619 times:
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Great news  

Since the article is from FlightGlobal it must be a done deal...? They usually don't print anything unless it is confirmed somewhere. 18 x CRJ1000 is a sizeable order. I assume some options will be announced too.



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4387 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7541 times:

Glad the CRJ1000 is gaining pace... If no order was placed, Air Nostrum and Air France-Brit Air would remain the sole operators and the line had to be shut down after 40 or so.


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User currently offlineSASMD82 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 798 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7531 times:

Great news and good to hear! Hopefully we will also see follow-up orders.
When will the first plane be delivered?


User currently offlinelollomz From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7418 times:
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It is funny that in Indonesia we will see CRJ-1000 with Garuda, SSJ-100 with SkyAviation and Kartika and no ERJ??? A little but strange, isn't it?

User currently offlinemandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6994 posts, RR: 78
Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7211 times:

Quoting lollomz (Reply 7):

It is funny that in Indonesia we will see CRJ-1000 with Garuda, SSJ-100 with SkyAviation and Kartika and no ERJ??? A little but strange, isn't it?

Sriwijaya has ordered the E-190s... 8 or 10... forgot...
And the Legacies dominate the medium range biz jets here!



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User currently offlineEuroWings From UK - England, joined Sep 2011, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7070 times:

If this deal does happen, then it's very good news for Bombardier and the CRJ1000, which only has two customers at present. As nice as Embraer's E-jets are, it's great to see the CRJ continuing production as it's a very sleek aircraft.

User currently offlinejulio777 From Indonesia, joined Jan 2012, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7055 times:

It's very interesting day indeed, following the news that Garuda confirms to order regional jets, it's share gains 9pct today! I wish i had bought the share last week . according to the article in bloomberg, this is due analysts see this as the right strategy for the airline.

Congratulations for Bombardier and Garuda

[Edited 2012-02-02 07:09:32]

User currently offlineLH7478i From Germany, joined Jan 2012, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6177 times:

Quoting QF340500 (Reply 2):

i much prefer the CRJ...! remember flying in LH CRJ700 fro Vienna to Berlin, it felt like in a private jet, kind of... loved the powerful take off and the smooth ride...

Good luck to Canadair  

I also prefer flying the LH CRJ700 LUX-MUC-LUX rather than going on A320's CGN-MUC-CGN. Really has a touch of private flying. Especially at LUX.



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User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5480 posts, RR: 31
Reply 12, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5808 times:

That's very cool....though I tend to remain cautious until the deal is officially announced. I like the look of that long needle of an aircraft.


What the...?
User currently offlinecartenz From Indonesia, joined May 2007, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5504 times:

As much as I respect FlightGlobal, I don't think they named the four Garuda hubs in the news article correctly. They mentioned the four hubs as Balikpapan, Denpasar, Ujung Pandang, and Makassar. Makassar is formerly known as Ujung Pandang. I wonder what the fourth hub is.

[Edited 2012-02-02 15:32:08]

User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4519 posts, RR: 71
Reply 14, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5200 times:

Quoting cartenz (Reply 13):
I wonder what the fourth hub is.

Medan


User currently offlinelollomz From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 306 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3599 times:
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Quoting mandala499 (Reply 8):
Quoting mandala499 (Reply 8):

I didn't know about the ERJ order, thanks for the info.

Lollo


User currently offlineyyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16374 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3357 times:

This order is badly needed. The CRJ1000 has been a poor seller, due in large part, IMO, to scope clauses.


Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineFRNT787 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1334 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3236 times:

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 16):
This order is badly needed. The CRJ1000 has been a poor seller, due in large part, IMO, to scope clauses.

Likely. I think it was hurt as well by the E190 being to market sooner.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26208 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3181 times:

Quoting FRNT787 (Reply 17):
Quoting yyz717 (Reply 16):
This order is badly needed. The CRJ1000 has been a poor seller, due in large part, IMO, to scope clauses.

Likely. I think it was hurt as well by the E190 being to market sooner.

And by the E190's more spacious cabin. The fuselage is almost a foot wider than the CRJ and the interior cabin width around 7 inches wider. That permits wider seats and the E190's aisle is also about 3.5 inches wider than the CRJ's. Makes a noticeable difference.


User currently offlineFRNT787 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1334 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3067 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 18):
And by the E190's more spacious cabin. The fuselage is almost a foot wider than the CRJ and the interior cabin width around 7 inches wider. That permits wider seats and the E190's aisle is also about 3.5 inches wider than the CRJ's. Makes a noticeable difference.

No doubt about it. I very much perfer the E190 myself. I was speaking from an airline point of view, and seeing as I never argue that the A320s extra width helps sell airplanes, I wanted to be fair to the CRJ.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26208 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2988 times:

As a sidenote, Air Nostrum took delivery of their 10th CRJ1000 on Friday. They have 25 more on order. The one delivered Friday was the 75th Bombardier aircraft delivered to Air Nostrum.
http://bombardier.com/en/corporate/m...ses/details?docID=0901260d801e0962


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User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5480 posts, RR: 31
Reply 21, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2878 times:

The crj's do burn significantly less fuel than the Ejets of similar passenger capacity so there may be a market for these planes for some time yet.

Brit Air and Air Nostrum reported 4% better fuel burn numbers than those promised by BBD...and those are real world numbers.

[Edited 2012-02-03 20:11:45]


What the...?
User currently offlineSASMD82 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 798 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2753 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 18):
nd by the E190's more spacious cabin. The fuselage is almost a foot wider than the CRJ and the interior cabin width around 7 inches wider. That permits wider seats and the E190's aisle is also about 3.5 inches wider than the CRJ's. Makes a noticeable difference.

Yeah, you are absolutely right, but you also carry a lot more weight than is needed for short haul routes. I have always wondered why so many airlines - that pretend to buy fuel efficient airliners - but the ERJ190 i.s.o the CRJ1000.


User currently offlinequeb From Canada, joined May 2010, 746 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2614 times:

On a 800 nm mission with 100 pax, the CRJ1000EL is about 7 tonnes lighter than the E190STD.

User currently offlinemandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6994 posts, RR: 78
Reply 24, posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2540 times:

Quoting SASMD82 (Reply 22):
I have always wondered why so many airlines - that pretend to buy fuel efficient airliners - but the ERJ190 i.s.o the CRJ1000.

It's the same why some airline chose the NG and not the A320, or chose the A320 and not the NG...
Fuel efficient? That's just one part of the equation!



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