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Garuda Near A 18 CRJ1000 Order.

titus95 From France, joined Feb 2009, 79 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7061 times:

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http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...ier-for-regional-jet-order-367698/

Referring to some reports coming from Indonesia , Garuda has chosen the CRJ1000 for its regional jet requirement .
The 18 units order should be official at the Singapore Air Show in 10 days.

For sure it's a blow for Embraer (can't always be the winner ! ) , and a very appreciated push for Bombardier !

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IndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7001 times:

Small order at this stage but in a country a size of Indonesia, that could grow significantly.

Good win for the canadians

QF340500 From Singapore, joined Oct 2011, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6887 times:

i much prefer the CRJ...! remember flying in LH CRJ700 fro Vienna to Berlin, it felt like in a private jet, kind of... loved the powerful take off and the smooth ride...

Good luck to Canadair

AirCanadaA330 From Canada, joined Aug 2008, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6798 times:

Congrads to the CRJ....nice to see a new operator for the 1000!!!

Bombardier must be all smiles

Cheers;

CRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2079 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6666 times:

Great news

Since the article is from FlightGlobal it must be a done deal...? They usually don't print anything unless it is confirmed somewhere. 18 x CRJ1000 is a sizeable order. I assume some options will be announced too.

Come, fly the prevailing winds with me

MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4117 posts, RR: 37
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6588 times:

Glad the CRJ1000 is gaining pace... If no order was placed, Air Nostrum and Air France-Brit Air would remain the sole operators and the line had to be shut down after 40 or so.

nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?

SASMD82 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6578 times:

Great news and good to hear! Hopefully we will also see follow-up orders.
When will the first plane be delivered?

lollomz From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6465 times:

It is funny that in Indonesia we will see CRJ-1000 with Garuda, SSJ-100 with SkyAviation and Kartika and no ERJ??? A little but strange, isn't it?

mandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6175 posts, RR: 74
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6258 times:

Quoting lollomz (Reply 7):

It is funny that in Indonesia we will see CRJ-1000 with Garuda, SSJ-100 with SkyAviation and Kartika and no ERJ??? A little but strange, isn't it?

Sriwijaya has ordered the E-190s... 8 or 10... forgot...
And the Legacies dominate the medium range biz jets here!

When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !

EuroWings From UK - England, joined Sep 2011, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6117 times:

If this deal does happen, then it's very good news for Bombardier and the CRJ1000, which only has two customers at present. As nice as Embraer's E-jets are, it's great to see the CRJ continuing production as it's a very sleek aircraft.

julio777 From Indonesia, joined Jan 2012, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6102 times:

It's very interesting day indeed, following the news that Garuda confirms to order regional jets, it's share gains 9pct today! I wish i had bought the share last week

. according to the article in bloomberg, this is due analysts see this as the right strategy for the airline.

Congratulations for Bombardier and Garuda

[Edited 2012-02-02 07:09:32]

LH7478i From Germany, joined Jan 2012, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5224 times:

Quoting QF340500 (Reply 2):

i much prefer the CRJ...! remember flying in LH CRJ700 fro Vienna to Berlin, it felt like in a private jet, kind of... loved the powerful take off and the smooth ride...

Good luck to Canadair

I also prefer flying the LH CRJ700 LUX-MUC-LUX rather than going on A320's CGN-MUC-CGN. Really has a touch of private flying. Especially at LUX.

JoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5001 posts, RR: 29
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4855 times:

That's very cool....though I tend to remain cautious until the deal is officially announced. I like the look of that long needle of an aircraft.

What the...?

cartenz From Indonesia, joined May 2007, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4551 times:

As much as I respect FlightGlobal, I don't think they named the four Garuda hubs in the news article correctly. They mentioned the four hubs as Balikpapan, Denpasar, Ujung Pandang, and Makassar. Makassar is formerly known as Ujung Pandang. I wonder what the fourth hub is.

[Edited 2012-02-02 15:32:08]

HB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4414 posts, RR: 76
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4247 times:

Quoting cartenz (Reply 13):
I wonder what the fourth hub is.

Medan

lollomz From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

Quoting mandala499 (Reply 8):

I didn't know about the ERJ order, thanks for the info.

Lollo

yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 15989 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2404 times:

This order is badly needed. The CRJ1000 has been a poor seller, due in large part, IMO, to scope clauses.

Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.

FRNT787 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1285 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2283 times:

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 16):
This order is badly needed. The CRJ1000 has been a poor seller, due in large part, IMO, to scope clauses.

Likely. I think it was hurt as well by the E190 being to market sooner.

"We have a right to fail, because failure makes us grow" --Glenn Beck

Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21464 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2228 times:

Quoting FRNT787 (Reply 17):
Quoting yyz717 (Reply 16):
This order is badly needed. The CRJ1000 has been a poor seller, due in large part, IMO, to scope clauses.

Likely. I think it was hurt as well by the E190 being to market sooner.

And by the E190's more spacious cabin. The fuselage is almost a foot wider than the CRJ and the interior cabin width around 7 inches wider. That permits wider seats and the E190's aisle is also about 3.5 inches wider than the CRJ's. Makes a noticeable difference.

FRNT787 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1285 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2114 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 18):
And by the E190's more spacious cabin. The fuselage is almost a foot wider than the CRJ and the interior cabin width around 7 inches wider. That permits wider seats and the E190's aisle is also about 3.5 inches wider than the CRJ's. Makes a noticeable difference.

No doubt about it. I very much perfer the E190 myself. I was speaking from an airline point of view, and seeing as I never argue that the A320s extra width helps sell airplanes, I wanted to be fair to the CRJ.

"We have a right to fail, because failure makes us grow" --Glenn Beck

Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21464 posts, RR: 24
Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2035 times:

As a sidenote, Air Nostrum took delivery of their 10th CRJ1000 on Friday. They have 25 more on order. The one delivered Friday was the 75th Bombardier aircraft delivered to Air Nostrum.
http://bombardier.com/en/corporate/m...ses/details?docID=0901260d801e0962

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JoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5001 posts, RR: 29
Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1925 times:

The crj's do burn significantly less fuel than the Ejets of similar passenger capacity so there may be a market for these planes for some time yet.

Brit Air and Air Nostrum reported 4% better fuel burn numbers than those promised by BBD...and those are real world numbers.

[Edited 2012-02-03 20:11:45]

What the...?

SASMD82 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1800 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 18):
nd by the E190's more spacious cabin. The fuselage is almost a foot wider than the CRJ and the interior cabin width around 7 inches wider. That permits wider seats and the E190's aisle is also about 3.5 inches wider than the CRJ's. Makes a noticeable difference.

Yeah, you are absolutely right, but you also carry a lot more weight than is needed for short haul routes. I have always wondered why so many airlines - that pretend to buy fuel efficient airliners - but the ERJ190 i.s.o the CRJ1000.

queb From Canada, joined May 2010, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1661 times:

On a 800 nm mission with 100 pax, the CRJ1000EL is about 7 tonnes lighter than the E190STD.

Nicolas

mandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6175 posts, RR: 74
Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1587 times:

Quoting SASMD82 (Reply 22):
I have always wondered why so many airlines - that pretend to buy fuel efficient airliners - but the ERJ190 i.s.o the CRJ1000.

It's the same why some airline chose the NG and not the A320, or chose the A320 and not the NG...
Fuel efficient? That's just one part of the equation!

When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !

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