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Garuda Near A 18 CRJ1000 Order.  
User currently offlinetitus95 From France, joined Feb 2009, 97 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7815 times:
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http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...ier-for-regional-jet-order-367698/


Referring to some reports coming from Indonesia , Garuda has chosen the CRJ1000 for its regional jet requirement .
The 18 units order should be official at the Singapore Air Show in 10 days.

For sure it's a blow for Embraer (can't always be the winner ! ) , and a very appreciated push for Bombardier !

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User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2916 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 7755 times:

Small order at this stage but in a country a size of Indonesia, that could grow significantly.

Good win for the canadians 


User currently offlineQF340500 From Singapore, joined Oct 2011, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7641 times:

i much prefer the CRJ...! remember flying in LH CRJ700 fro Vienna to Berlin, it felt like in a private jet, kind of... loved the powerful take off and the smooth ride...

Good luck to Canadair  


User currently onlineAirCanadaA330 From Canada, joined Aug 2008, 294 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7552 times:
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Congrads to the CRJ....nice to see a new operator for the 1000!!!

Bombardier must be all smiles



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User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7420 times:
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Great news  

Since the article is from FlightGlobal it must be a done deal...? They usually don't print anything unless it is confirmed somewhere. 18 x CRJ1000 is a sizeable order. I assume some options will be announced too.



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4304 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7342 times:

Glad the CRJ1000 is gaining pace... If no order was placed, Air Nostrum and Air France-Brit Air would remain the sole operators and the line had to be shut down after 40 or so.


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User currently offlineSASMD82 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 726 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7332 times:

Great news and good to hear! Hopefully we will also see follow-up orders.
When will the first plane be delivered?


User currently offlinelollomz From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 255 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7219 times:
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It is funny that in Indonesia we will see CRJ-1000 with Garuda, SSJ-100 with SkyAviation and Kartika and no ERJ??? A little but strange, isn't it?

User currently offlinemandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6767 posts, RR: 76
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7012 times:

Quoting lollomz (Reply 7):

It is funny that in Indonesia we will see CRJ-1000 with Garuda, SSJ-100 with SkyAviation and Kartika and no ERJ??? A little but strange, isn't it?

Sriwijaya has ordered the E-190s... 8 or 10... forgot...
And the Legacies dominate the medium range biz jets here!



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User currently offlineEuroWings From UK - England, joined Sep 2011, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6871 times:

If this deal does happen, then it's very good news for Bombardier and the CRJ1000, which only has two customers at present. As nice as Embraer's E-jets are, it's great to see the CRJ continuing production as it's a very sleek aircraft.

User currently offlinejulio777 From Indonesia, joined Jan 2012, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6856 times:

It's very interesting day indeed, following the news that Garuda confirms to order regional jets, it's share gains 9pct today! I wish i had bought the share last week . according to the article in bloomberg, this is due analysts see this as the right strategy for the airline.

Congratulations for Bombardier and Garuda

[Edited 2012-02-02 07:09:32]

User currently onlineLH7478i From Germany, joined Jan 2012, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5978 times:

Quoting QF340500 (Reply 2):

i much prefer the CRJ...! remember flying in LH CRJ700 fro Vienna to Berlin, it felt like in a private jet, kind of... loved the powerful take off and the smooth ride...

Good luck to Canadair  

I also prefer flying the LH CRJ700 LUX-MUC-LUX rather than going on A320's CGN-MUC-CGN. Really has a touch of private flying. Especially at LUX.


User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5405 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5609 times:

That's very cool....though I tend to remain cautious until the deal is officially announced. I like the look of that long needle of an aircraft.


What the...?
User currently offlinecartenz From Indonesia, joined May 2007, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5305 times:

As much as I respect FlightGlobal, I don't think they named the four Garuda hubs in the news article correctly. They mentioned the four hubs as Balikpapan, Denpasar, Ujung Pandang, and Makassar. Makassar is formerly known as Ujung Pandang. I wonder what the fourth hub is.

[Edited 2012-02-02 15:32:08]

User currently offlineHB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4497 posts, RR: 72
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5001 times:

Quoting cartenz (Reply 13):
I wonder what the fourth hub is.

Medan


User currently offlinelollomz From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 255 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3400 times:
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Quoting mandala499 (Reply 8):
Quoting mandala499 (Reply 8):

I didn't know about the ERJ order, thanks for the info.

Lollo


User currently offlineyyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16245 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3158 times:

This order is badly needed. The CRJ1000 has been a poor seller, due in large part, IMO, to scope clauses.


Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineFRNT787 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1319 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3037 times:

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 16):
This order is badly needed. The CRJ1000 has been a poor seller, due in large part, IMO, to scope clauses.

Likely. I think it was hurt as well by the E190 being to market sooner.



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User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24858 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2982 times:

Quoting FRNT787 (Reply 17):
Quoting yyz717 (Reply 16):
This order is badly needed. The CRJ1000 has been a poor seller, due in large part, IMO, to scope clauses.

Likely. I think it was hurt as well by the E190 being to market sooner.

And by the E190's more spacious cabin. The fuselage is almost a foot wider than the CRJ and the interior cabin width around 7 inches wider. That permits wider seats and the E190's aisle is also about 3.5 inches wider than the CRJ's. Makes a noticeable difference.


User currently offlineFRNT787 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1319 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2868 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 18):
And by the E190's more spacious cabin. The fuselage is almost a foot wider than the CRJ and the interior cabin width around 7 inches wider. That permits wider seats and the E190's aisle is also about 3.5 inches wider than the CRJ's. Makes a noticeable difference.

No doubt about it. I very much perfer the E190 myself. I was speaking from an airline point of view, and seeing as I never argue that the A320s extra width helps sell airplanes, I wanted to be fair to the CRJ.



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User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24858 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2789 times:

As a sidenote, Air Nostrum took delivery of their 10th CRJ1000 on Friday. They have 25 more on order. The one delivered Friday was the 75th Bombardier aircraft delivered to Air Nostrum.
http://bombardier.com/en/corporate/m...ses/details?docID=0901260d801e0962


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User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5405 posts, RR: 30
Reply 21, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2679 times:

The crj's do burn significantly less fuel than the Ejets of similar passenger capacity so there may be a market for these planes for some time yet.

Brit Air and Air Nostrum reported 4% better fuel burn numbers than those promised by BBD...and those are real world numbers.

[Edited 2012-02-03 20:11:45]


What the...?
User currently offlineSASMD82 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 726 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2554 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 18):
nd by the E190's more spacious cabin. The fuselage is almost a foot wider than the CRJ and the interior cabin width around 7 inches wider. That permits wider seats and the E190's aisle is also about 3.5 inches wider than the CRJ's. Makes a noticeable difference.

Yeah, you are absolutely right, but you also carry a lot more weight than is needed for short haul routes. I have always wondered why so many airlines - that pretend to buy fuel efficient airliners - but the ERJ190 i.s.o the CRJ1000.


User currently offlinequeb From Canada, joined May 2010, 655 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2415 times:

On a 800 nm mission with 100 pax, the CRJ1000EL is about 7 tonnes lighter than the E190STD.

User currently offlinemandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6767 posts, RR: 76
Reply 24, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2341 times:

Quoting SASMD82 (Reply 22):
I have always wondered why so many airlines - that pretend to buy fuel efficient airliners - but the ERJ190 i.s.o the CRJ1000.

It's the same why some airline chose the NG and not the A320, or chose the A320 and not the NG...
Fuel efficient? That's just one part of the equation!



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