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WN / F9 Chicago-Cancun Route Authority  
User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 889 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3987 times:

WN (FL) And F9 To Battle It Out For Chicago-Cancun (by wnintl Jan 10 2012 in Civil Aviation)

Any new news?


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User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3028 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3952 times:

No news yet, just a lot of bickering between F9 and WN/FL. DOT suppose to make a decision this week, 1/31 but no answer so far. Maybe later today or tomorrow we will know.

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22678 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3832 times:

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 1):
DOT suppose to make a decision this week, 1/31 but no answer so far.

Are you sure 1/31 wasn't the reply deadline?



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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3039 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3467 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
Are you sure 1/31 wasn't the reply deadline?

Taken from the original article "As a result, the DOT on Monday instituted the route case. It set up a tight schedule: petitions due by Thursday, answers to petitions by Tuesday, supplements and additions by Jan. 19, answers to those by Jan. 26 and final replies by Jan. 31".

"In light of our stated goal of reaching a prompt final decision, we intend to process this case on an accelerated procedural schedule," the DOT said.

As government plain language goes I could read it both ways.



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22678 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3436 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 3):
As government plain language goes I could read it both ways.

I'm lost. The last day for replies was 1/31. What other reasonable reading is there?



I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 889 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2928 times:

Hmmm... Awfully quiet for an expedited decision.


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User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3028 posts, RR: 29
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2918 times:

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 5):
Hmmm... Awfully quiet for an expedited decision.

It sure has been quiet.    How much longer are they going to take to get to a decision...   

 


User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1430 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2857 times:

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 6):
It sure has been quiet.    How much longer are they going to take to get to a decision...
Quoting usflyguy (Reply 5):
Hmmm... Awfully quiet for an expedited decision.

I second those thoughts!!!! Seriously.... tick TOCK!



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User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 889 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2491 times:

Definitely an expedited decision....   


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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3039 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 4):
The last day for replies was 1/31. What other reasonable reading is there?

From a contract aspect I could read this as the last day for replies/arguments from the carriers was 1/31

I suspect thereafter there would be a 30 day cooling down period. As this is contested route the timeline may also include a notification period to the Mexican and or Provincial Government. I have a suspicion the FL merger/acquisition with WN may also be hindering the decision as a thorough check of both carriers finances would be made.



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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3039 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1970 times:

Quoting usflyguy (Thread starter):
Any new news?

The last comments I see on the OST docket are dated January 26, 2012. Are you current through that date? Legal counsel who F9 and FL/WN hired in D.C. are shooting spitballs at each other.



Man can be taken from Alaska. Alaska can never be taken from the man.
User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3028 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1904 times:

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 8):
Definitely an expedited decision....

I know such a quick process.   Would be nice to have an answer soon.   

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 10):
The last comments I see on the OST docket are dated January 26, 2012. Are you current through that date? Legal counsel who F9 and FL/WN hired in D.C. are shooting spitballs at each other.

The last replies submitted by both parties was January 31, 2012. After that nothing else has been posted.


User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3039 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1647 times:

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 11):
The last replies submitted by both parties was January 31, 2012. After that nothing else has been posted.

You must have more current data than I. The last comments I see on OST-2011-0214 (F9) and OST-2011-0225 (FL) posted here http://www.airlineinfo.com/Sites/Dai...ent/ostcarrier/airtranairways.html are dated Janurary 26, 2012



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User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 889 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1538 times:

Try http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketD...SR;rpp=10;po=0;D=DOT-OST-2011-0225


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User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3363 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1525 times:

Now maybe now G4 can apply for an uncontested GYY-CUN.  


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