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CI Almost Crashed On The Same Runway That SIA...  
User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1997 times:

According to an exlcusive report from Taiwan's Ettoday.com on July 25, A China Airlines A300-600R almost crashed on the same runway at Taipei where Singapore Airlines flt 006 crashed in last October.

CI194 from KHH to TPE was in approaching stage around 9.31am on July 10, 2001 (local time) when the captain realized that it is going to land on the WRONG runway. The jet was about 300m above the ground. The captain decided to Go-around and land in another runway instead.

An eyewitness said that if the Airbus landed on 05L/23(?), there will be not enough distance for the plane to stop and will hit the OBJECT that SIA 747 also struck last year.

Officials from China Airlines said that this is a normal situation that pilots decide to use another runway for approching. The pilots has been notified that the runway that CI jet originally going to land is closed.

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User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1884 times:

Another case pilots doesn't look at their instruments?

alvin



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User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1870 times:

Mr. BA please explain your comment, no instrument I have seens informs you about landing on the wrong runway.
Iain


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1848 times:

This is just another example of the bad pilots theat carriers like CI, KE and SQ have.

User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1837 times:

Maybe i made a mistake in my first post. But, descending from cruising to landing the clearance to the aircraft given by the controllers should notify him which runway is he suppose to land on. I guess both runways 05L/R has ILS approaches? If so, the pilot needs to set the frequency of the ILS for the given runway and i don't think he will even approach the wrong runway given that he tuned in to the correct ILS frequency for 05L?

Or is there no ILS at all?

alvin



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User currently offlineRed Panda From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2000, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1808 times:

Yes, if there is ILS, the pilots should have been able to see the diff. The diff. would get larger and larger as the acft approach the wrong rwy. Maybe this is the reason why the pilots knew that he/she was on the wrong rwy.


r panda


User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1783 times:

Red panda, you have a point, but why does the pilot spot it at such near distance to touchdown? When he is approaching the runway to land he will sometimes need to refer to his instruments even though if he is doing a visual landing, so i guess he should be able to spot the mistake early?

alvin



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User currently offlineRed Panda From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2000, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1707 times:

Who knows?! Maybe the pilots are talking about girls when they were landing.

 Love
brgds // r panda


User currently offlineGlenn From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

Can someone explain if you are landing on say Runway 25L doesn't that mean left, so if you were approaching then Runway 25R you would see the 2 runways and say hey, the left runway is a bit on the right side.
Or don't some countries use left and right  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlineGUNDU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1707 times:

Posted by Hkgspotter1
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Posted 2001-08-05 05:19:23 and read 144 times.

This is just another example of the bad pilots theat carriers like CI, KE and SQ have.

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Erhem!SQ does not hire bad pilots.Now,this is bad.If Taipei Airport is not going to get its act together,it's finished.There will be lots more crashes.


GUNDU  Big thumbs up




User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1694 times:

At least SIA pilots fly for the love of flying, not like some others fly for the sake of money.

alvin



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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1681 times:

Gundu,

Sorry but thats the facts.

Mr BA,

Do you think that's true.


User currently offlineAirbus A380 From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 522 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1646 times:

I totally agree with Mr BA and GUNDU. At least SQ pilots, does not give problems like unnecessary strikes.

User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1633 times:

Spoke to quite a lot of them before and that is why i conclude to that statement. Maybe you can prove me wrong? Yap, i agree they don't go for unnecessary strikes. No point doing that though.

alvin



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User currently offlineTtt From United States of America, joined Sep 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1623 times:

I think the best example of how bad carriers treat good pilots is Cathay Pacific.



User currently offlineRed Panda From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2000, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1611 times:

Geeeezzzz, this topic is about left and right rwys, not about left and right political parties.

rgds // r panda


User currently offlineBoeing747_600 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1611 times:

Mr BA wrote:

> At least SIA pilots fly for the love of flying, not like some
> others fly for the sake of money.

I've seen some idiotic statements on this forum before, but this one's a contender for the gold cup

-Sharat


User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1603 times:

Also, the Tower Control asked the Taiwanese captain TWICE that if he is landing at the RIGHT runway, and the pilot thinks that he is landing towards the right one.

User currently offlineRm-11 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (13 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1595 times:

I wonder how often this happens at ATL. Since it has four (soon to be five) parallel runways.

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13739 posts, RR: 19
Reply 19, posted (13 years 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

HkgSpotter1: Uh, the fact is Gundu is right and you're wrong my dear.

Anyway, it's good that it didn't crash. Is their an investigation on it? ATC error maybe?



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