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Why Does Everyone Hate The 737-200?  
User currently offlineOldelwood From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

I Happen To Like Them! They Have Given Many Airlines Outstanding Performance.They Have A Great Safety Record And Most Are Only Around 16 Years Old! What Is The Hurry To Get Rid Of Them? None Of The So Called Replacements Will Ever Serve As Long Or As Well As The 737-200. She Is One Of The Best Airliners Flying!

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User currently offlineKing767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2583 times:

I happen to agree with you that the 737-200 is a very good, well built, and reliable airliner, but the fact is that it is an old, outdated aircraft. A good number of the 732s don't even meet stage III noise restrictions, and they burn a good amount of Jet A compared to a 737-700 or A319. The 732 is an aircraft of beauty, and it will be sad to see it go in the future.

-Tom


User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2523 times:

The louder the better!
Iain


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8045 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

Classic airliner, workhorse, reliable as fuck. Who in their right mind hates the 732?


fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineJmacias34 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2481 times:

Not sure on this one, but I think it has something to do with the different engines?!?

User currently offlinePatM04 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2474 times:

I love that plane! It has gotten me to and from many places and without any trouble. I hope nobody hates it!


PAT


User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2469 times:

I've always thought the early 737s were neat-looking. I have a model of a 737-200 which I made in the Western Airlines bare-metal scheme. It's neat! And they are fun to fly on. One of my best flight memories was when I flew on an America West 737-200 from San Diego via Phoenix to Austin, just after I turned 21. That was back when America West served complimentary wine and beer, so I had my first glass of wine sitting just behind the wing, looking down through the jet exhaust at the desert landscape far below.

Too bad there are so many restrictions on noise...half the fun of watching planes take off and land is the sound of the roaring jet engines!

Long live the 737-200!


User currently offlineBoeingfan4life From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2457 times:

The Boeing 737-200 is a very well built, reliable aircraft. It doesn't meet noise requirements in some areas, and is not economical with fuel.

PS
I love Jet A fuel!!! Ha, ha...


User currently offline777guy From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 491 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2445 times:

I love the airplane but it is older,has analog cockpit,engines that burn fuel faster and as an older aircraft requires special maintainance.Also requires more fusalage inspections because of age.If I am not mistaken 737-500 is basically the same plane updated.

User currently offlineGregg From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2443 times:

777guy,
the 737-500 is an updated -200, also the 737-600 is an updated -500.

Gregg


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2434 times:

The -200 is the best of the lot. It looks better and it sounds MUCH better !!!!

User currently offlineMikeybien From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2430 times:

Many people are still spooked from the UA Colorado Springs 737-200 crash.

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2421 times:

UAL had had their B 732s gone through Heavy Maintenance. And they will not be leaving anytime soon.


User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6278 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2417 times:

Where did you get the idea that "everybody" hates the 737-200? From what I've read here, nobody hates it. In my pinion, anybody that claims to "hate" it, is an A vs B fanatic.

Steve



Quit calling an airport ramp "Tarmac" and a taxiway "runway".
User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6278 posts, RR: 34
Reply 14, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2410 times:

Where did you get the idea that "everybody" hates the 737-200? From what I've read here, nobody hates it. In my opinion, anybody that claims to "hate" it, is an A vs B fanatic.

Steve



Quit calling an airport ramp "Tarmac" and a taxiway "runway".
User currently offlineAdvancedkid From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2404 times:

The 727 baby sister can't be bad.
The JT8D's were never bad, even
when leaky and bit screamy.
Kindest regards
Advanced *727s +737s*  Innocent  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2409 times:

Actually, just for the sake of argument...

Most are way over 16 years old. Let's see... It's 2001. They stopped producing them in 1984. So ALL of them are over 16 years old. But seriously, they didn't build very many toward the end, and most went to Delta (who later became a subsidiary of Aeroflot but don't get me started). But most flying are circa 1970s. All of United's remaining 732 fleet did not originally belong to United- the are all 737-291's of Frontiers. But the one I flew recently was well over 23 years old. It was a piece of junk. Reliable? Certianly. Nice airplane? Certainly not.

I like them. I like DC-9s better, but I still like the 732.

They burn TONS of fuel and that makes them more expensive for airlines to operate. They weren't even considered efficient back in 1984, as the 737-300 had just debuted.

That's my opinion.

Randy


User currently offlineApollo13 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2399 times:

The 737-200 is a classic it stands out from the newer models of the 737 I don't see why anyone could hate such a great airliner. Their age dosent mean anything so what if its 16 years old. Its just such a great airliner. Smile  Big grin  Big thumbs up

User currently offlineCYLW From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 434 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2380 times:

Actually, they stopped producing the 737-200s in 1988. Most of Delta's are from 84-87. Most of United's and USAirways are around 20 yrs old now. Great planes! Here in Western Canada we see them all the time with Westjet and Air Canada having large numbers. They may be a little noisy, but they sure are better than those "Jurrasic Jet" F.28s!

User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 19, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2338 times:
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Gregg- about the 735 bring an updated 732, what were the updates? I assume the engines were one of them?

I took a cockpit visit on a Qantas 735 and found that the interior seemed unchanged and had much of the analog flightdeckage up there.

Please let us know. Thanks.



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User currently offlineKing767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2329 times:

Well, QF does not operate the 735, mabye you were thinking of another carrier? Anyway, there is actually a difference between the cockpits of many of the 733s, 734s, and 735s. Lets use CO as an example. Their earliest 733 have an analog cockpit, but their 735s and late model 733 have an EFIS cockpit. I am not sure if there are any 735s with an analog cockpit. And remember, the interior furnishings are up to the airline, not Boeing. Yes, the engines were a big update, along with the changes that were included in the 733.

-Tom


User currently offlineBH346 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3265 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2323 times:

Because they're old and noisy. It's one of the worst, if not the worst narrowbody I've been on. I've flown on these planes 3 times with 3 different airlines and they were all the same. I can't stand being on one of those for an hour. I really like the second and third generation 737s, though.

BH346



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User currently offlineCritter592 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2311 times:

Southwest has analog flight decks on all 732, 733, and 735

The 732 is a BEAUTIFUL Bird


User currently offlineOO-VEG From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 1081 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2283 times:

B737-200 is very nice. Especially those engines. And what about the front gear?? They have got some kind of scraper behind it so it can land at dirty or icy runways.


User currently offlineYbg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2250 times:

There is surely about 100 pax who hate it now. A Canada 3000 732 just made an emergency landing in Fort Lauderdale while en route from Cuba to Montréal Mirabel (YMX) after one of its engines caught fire.

And what about the BA 732 in Manchester (UK) that had an engine blowing off while taxiing for take off? It happened in the '80s I beleive. The fire spreaded all over the aircraft because the pilot turned the aircraft the wrong way, putting the engine in fire on the wind side. There was many deaths. It was found in the following inquiry that the 732's engines fuel piping inside the engine wasn't designed strong enough, creating cracks and consequently fuel leaks.

An incident with at least a certain degree of similarity happened last year. It was an AC 732 (ex CP I beleive) that was charted by the Reform Party during the last Canadian federal election that had its port engine blowing off while landing somewhere in the province of New Brunswick.

I flew on it in the last few years, mainly in Africa (Air Gabon and TAAG). I must say it didn't felt too safe. A TAAG 732 was audited by AF in 1997, as it was doing a continuation of an AF flight from CDG to Pointe-Noire (Congo) via Luanda. It failed the audit miserably.


25 Ryanw1124 : I flew on Delta Express last week from MCO-PVD and I thought the plane was rather nice. The takeoffs and landings are a little noisy but during cruisi
26 Post contains images Mark_D. : Okay wasn't gonna respond to this but.. since there was an RJ-related thread started just now.. may's well just say, Kudos to this little workhorse, w
27 Srbmod : Boeing was still building these things at the same time they were building the 300 series, and even though the oldest ones are bare 15 years old, they
28 Post contains images Boeingmd82 : Yes, the engines do look different, but it's only because of the location they are mounted. The 737 application has to run the jet pipe past the trail
29 RealHigh : I love the 737-200! I flew an Olympic Airways 732 in Greece and I loved the sound of those roaring engines.
30 Af007 : Oldelwood: Please stop capitalizing every word.
31 B737-112 : A few people asked the question where he got the impression that people hate the 732. I've also seen alot of negative talk about this classic airliner
32 Post contains images Mark_D. : B737-112 Sometimes 16 year olds get the feeling that they know all and that anything built before the A320 or MD-11 is old. Ah but this is airliners.n
33 Mark_D. : Oops,sorry that last line I forgot was still in there (meant to italicise it, then respond to that point too!) The dispatch rate, yeah I guess with al
34 Teej13 : The 737-200 has done a fantastic job as a safe reliable workhorse, but I think it's time may have come. I love the way they look and sound, but I don'
35 Fanofjets : When compared with the newer planes powered by the likes of the CFM-56 and AE-2500, the 731 and 732 are old-fashioned, noisy, and uneconomical. Howeve
36 Pilottim747 : I love the Boeing 737-200s I've been on. I have been flying United a lot lately and they fly many B732s into MSP (my home airport). I found out that o
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