QatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1618 posts, RR: 7 Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8593 times:
Quoting ojas (Thread starter): 12) DOH - BCN will increase to 11 weekly from W12
13) DOH - MAD will increase to 10 weekly from W12
With EK increasing MAD to double daily, QR should seriously consider that.
To note that QR will recieve 5 787 this year, most probably used on the UK routes, it will free up some needed A330s for new destinations. Can the 787 make it DOH-SFO, or DOH-LAX nonstop?
ojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2794 posts, RR: 22 Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8483 times:
Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 1): With EK increasing MAD to double daily, QR should seriously consider that.
To note that QR will recieve 5 787 this year, most probably used on the UK routes, it will free up some needed A330s for new destinations. Can the 787 make it DOH-SFO, or DOH-LAX nonstop?
QR is going at an extremely fast rate, they need to reach the target of 120 destinations with 120 planes which they have been publicising all these years.
I'm really keen to know whether AAB will actually keep his word and start 3 new points in India!
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HB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4416 posts, RR: 75 Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8465 times:
Quoting ojas (Reply 2): QR is going at an extremely fast rate
In its quest to mimick EK, QR is spreading itself too thin. The airline's main focus seems to be on network expansion, whereas more attention to frequency and schedule symmetry in order to offer better and more consistent connectivity is really what is needed to be able to attract more premium traffic. Of course, improved connectivity at DOH is unlikely to gain as much attention from the press as yet another 10 new destinations.
ojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2794 posts, RR: 22 Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 8355 times:
Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 3): Of course, improved connectivity at DOH is unlikely to gain as much attention from the press as yet another 10 new destinations.
Absolutely and they do know that their network can never be as dense as EK which is why increasing the number of points in the network will give them that satisfaction. But as you rightly point out, schedule integrity is something that QR gives a toss.
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QatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1618 posts, RR: 7 Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7668 times:
Quoting ojas (Thread starter): 6) DOH - STR will now be operated via ZRH. 3 of the existing flights to ZRH will continue to STR
Quoting ojas (Thread starter): 3) DOH - CEB route suspended from S12 which was a 3 weekly operation
Quoting ojas (Thread starter): 14) DOH - ICN will switch from daily A332 to daily B77L from 01AUG
I think with all these changes, one could perhaps emphasize what AAB has been saying all along regarding the delays of the Boeing 787's. I think it shows how QR is trying to spread itself thin announcing all these new destinations, while trying prioritize new routes.
I think however, that most new routes in recent years, have been A320's and have been operated with a stopover. A320s keep on coming like hotcakes thus opening new destinations. The area which QR lacks completely is Australia, with only 1 destination served-- in addition to the West Coast of both the USA and Africa.
migair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1280 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7623 times:
Quoting ojas (Thread starter): 12) DOH - BCN will increase to 11 weekly from W12
13) DOH - MAD will increase to 10 weekly from W12
yes, amazing... MAD will be 24xweek B777 and BCN 17xweek A332 and B77W
Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 3): In its quest to mimick EK, QR is spreading itself too thin. The airline's main focus seems to be on network expansion, whereas more attention to frequency and schedule symmetry in order to offer better and more consistent connectivity is really what is needed to be able to attract more premium traffic. Of course, improved connectivity at DOH is unlikely to gain as much attention from the press as yet another 10 new destinations.
Exactly... but it seems that they want publicity only opening new routes, but they really need to work out the schedules and freqs...
Even turkish is doing something similar.... opening so many new routes....
Can they really manage to organize, and get profit all of this new schedules with tag ons and layovers... ????
AF086 From France, joined Jan 2007, 1033 posts, RR: 9 Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7613 times:
The rumour mill is strong regarding a new DOH-GIG-SCL service by QR. Any news on that? EK seems to be satisfied with the early performance of their new DXB-GIG-EZE flight.
SepulTALLICA From Zimbabwe, joined Sep 2009, 188 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7464 times:
QatarA340 guy, i have been hearing rumours from some folks in the travel industry in Zimbabwe that QR have been considering starting HRE at some stage in the future. Do you have any info on that mane?
migair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1280 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7410 times:
Quoting SepulTALLICA (Reply 10): QatarA340 guy, i have been hearing rumours from some folks in the travel industry in Zimbabwe that QR have been considering starting HRE at some stage in the future. Do you have any info on that mane?
Thanks in advance.
the only problems i see for that is that EK just start flying there via LUN and that to operate that route they will need an A330 because taking off from HRE with an A319 and so much fuel they will be very restricted.
What about operating via NBO?? currently QR does, DOH-NBO-DAR but loads are very low because they direct flights they also offer to both destinations, why not re route DOH-NBO-HRE??
wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5566 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7358 times:
I was hoping we would see more of Qatar Airways in the US.
abrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 4919 posts, RR: 55 Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7358 times:
Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 3): In its quest to mimick EK, QR is spreading itself too thin. The airline's main focus seems to be on network expansion, whereas more attention to frequency and schedule symmetry in order to offer better and more consistent connectivity is really what is needed to be able to attract more premium traffic. Of course, improved connectivity at DOH is unlikely to gain as much attention from the press as yet another 10 new destinations.
Quoting migair54 (Reply 7): Can they really manage to organize, and get profit all of this new schedules with tag ons and layovers... ????
= Absolutely. Remember, QR is NOT run as an organization that needs to make a profit - it is just an arm of Qatari foreign policy. Sort of like Al Jazeera TV proselytizing democracy without a look at its backyard. QR's yield and RASM numbers are below what some LCC's around the world get.
SepulTALLICA From Zimbabwe, joined Sep 2009, 188 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6338 times:
Quoting migair54 (Reply 11): the only problems i see for that is that EK just start flying there via LUN and that to operate that route they will need an A330 because taking off from HRE with an A319 and so much fuel they will be very restricted.
What about operating via NBO?? currently QR does, DOH-NBO-DAR but loads are very low because they direct flights they also offer to both destinations, why not re route DOH-NBO-HRE??
I'm sure its a possibility man. From what some pals at EK have told me, EK's intention is to eventually graduate DXB-HRE and DXB-LUN to their own individual flights, should loads pick up as they are expected to come December time. If this should happen, i don't see why QR should have any problem operating flights to HRE using something bigger than a 319 (excuse my armchair executive thought process here).
Back to the original topic: the reason i ask is that many people i know of who travel to Europe use QR because, despite having to go HRE-JNB-DOH-LHR for example, they (QR) are far better quality and relatively cheaper than even ET for example. I know many Italian diplomats who use QR instead of ET to go from HRE to FCO for thsi very reason.
Anyway, if anyone knows anything about this potential routing, i'd appreciate your thoughts.
shamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4041 posts, RR: 13 Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5718 times:
Quoting UALWN (Reply 5): Plus EK is starting BCN too with 7 weekly 77Ws. It all seems slightly too much.
You'd be surprised - we thought that in Dublin too. EY started off with 4 flights a week, then it was daily, then 11 times a week, then EK came in with an A330, and just three weeks after they started flights, it's now going 777-300 on foot of one of their most succesful launches ever.
The MEB3 just seem to have tapped into pent up demand by taking out one of the stops en-route to SE Asia and Oz. They've just made it easier, and cracked open the pent open the pent up demand.
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HB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4416 posts, RR: 75 Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4661 times:
Quoting JoKeR (Reply 14): When is BEG starting, they announced that just after the ZAG flights?
Quoting ojas (Thread starter): Schedules for HEL, ELQ, MBA, ZNZ, BEG, LED, KBP to be announced.
QR462/463 DOH ESB DOH is currently scheduled with a ground time of over 7 hours at ESB. I presume that this flight will be extended to one of the yet to be announced destinations. BEG and KBP seem prime candidates.
behramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4479 posts, RR: 43 Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4034 times:
QR should initially fly to HRE via DAR on an A320 as the DAR market size is not big enough to warrant a double daily A320 nonstop terminator service.
As far as FIH is concerned, I would propose QR operate an A333 over there via NBO. What about QR getting into ADD? That market segment more so than any other African destination has the biggest potential for QR to exploit both in terms of volume and yield as the labor market demand to/from the Middle East + VFR/leisure Ethiopian traffic bound to India/Europe/BKK/IAD/IAH/JFK is massive.
ojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2794 posts, RR: 22 Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 3960 times:
Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 22): QR462/463 DOH ESB DOH is currently scheduled with a ground time of over 7 hours at ESB. I presume that this flight will be extended to one of the yet to be announced destinations. BEG and KBP seem prime candidates.
I'm not sure if the rotation would fit in. Also with the de-linking of NBO and DAR on one of the flights, it is anyone's guess we are looking at ZNZ and MBA to be tagged to these destinations.
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25 IndianicWorld: Abit early to be declaring success just yet. Time will tell where things settles. Boosting EK capacity might just drop EY's frequency in the end, but
26 QatarA340: QR is a semi-private Company, and of course it needs to make a profit. QR an arm of foreign policy? I would get the rationale if you said AlJazeera,
27 carpethead: Still no de-linking of the NRT/KIX flight from DOH. QR must know what they are doing & paying for landing fees.
28 migair54: QR just announce the new schedule and you might be right... Doha – Dar es Salaam eff 01JUN12 All 2 Daily flights operating on NONSTOP basis once ag
29 SurfandSnow: Great to see QR pioneering the way into underserved niche markets. So still no SYD? I realize that QR wants to avoid the heavy competition there, but
30 jetlag73: CEB is cancelled, but seems DPS is doing good, with a mix of 77W and 77L. Yields not sure, but loads are great (I know, I know, loads mean nothing. St
31 QatarA340: Checking the log books, QR has about 8 A320s, 1 77W, 5 787, and 1 777F to be delivered for this year. I might be wrong, however. That means there is r
32 kiramakora: QR is owned by the State of Qatar. Why don't you do do some due diligence on who are the "private investors" owning the rest of the 50% of the stakes
33 sq_ek_freak: If galley gossip is to be believed, FIH is high on EK's list too. To be honest, I disagree with this. It seems as though even AAB doesn't make much e
34 QatarA340: No its not, as much as the "Qatar is so rich" fever spreads the globe, QR is NOT fully owned by the government. It is owned by senior members of the
35 abrelosojos: = Seriously? And, the senior members of the Royal Family is not part of the government? = You don't have to believe anything you don't want to. Some
36 QatarA340: Nope. Propery, land, airline companies, grocery shops owned by the members of the Royal Family are NOT part of the governement. Lol, ok fine. You hav
37 ojas: Qatar Airways as an entity that is being used to extract businesses/tourism into Qatar as they know natural gas revenue is not going to last forever.
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