LondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1613 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 10656 times:
Has there ever been a case of where an airline quits a route, only to return a couple of weeks later ?
The question concerns Air Asia X which recently announced it would cease flying between KUL, ORY and LGW at the end of March.
But seemingly there are so many passengers which it cannot rebook onto other carriers because of lack of availability near to Easter that, in an unusual move, Air Asia X is reinstating flights to LGW on two dates in April: the 14th and the 16th. Flights on both dates are displayed on its website and are open for booking.
I assume that these two flights have been slot-approved by LGW ?
LondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1613 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 10383 times:
I suppose Air Asia X would try, in the first instance, to protect its pax with MAS. Other alternative (bear in mind that MAS has a monopoly of KUL-London from April 1) carriers might be too expensive or not have the capacity.
raffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1736 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 9981 times:
I must say that whenever I checked their fares, I didn't find them very competitive. The difference between them and MH was minimal & for the added benefit of increased leg room, complimentary food, beverages, entertainment etc, MH was the better choice.
How many low cost long haul routes does actually leave now? Must be true what people say, the long haul low cost does not work..
shankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1574 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 9592 times:
Quoting raffik (Reply 4): Must be true what people say, the long haul low cost does not work..
Cebu obviously haven't heard the "people" talking
I think this is actually quite an honourable stance by Air Asia X. Their co-operation agreement with MAS provided that MAS take-on the advanced bookings on this now defunct route. There is clearly an Easter blip and its good to see an airline honouring its comitment to passengers
Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 10503 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7047 times:
Do they interline with any of the other airlines serving the route? Many low cost carriers do not. If they don't interline and have no agreements with some of the other airlines, then they are stuck paying published fares for the route. I am guessing that with how high the published fares are, it is cheaper to operate the route on a few select dates.
cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8435 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4827 times:
Quoting raffik (Reply 4): How many low cost long haul routes does actually leave now? Must be true what people say, the long haul low cost does not work..
It doesn't work brilliantly because there are fewer areas where costs can be cut - shorthaul LCCs can save money compared to legacies by flying to smaller fields (but you can't land a widebody at some remote spot with a tin shed for a terminal); by getting more flights a day out of one aircraft (but longhaul aircraft at legacy airlines have high utilisation rates anyway); by charging for meals (but people need food on a seven plus hour leg, whereas it's optional on a London to Amsterdam); by charging for bags (but people are more likely to be going away for enough time that they need to check a bag, so like food, a much higher percentage of punters will need to use this service, which, again, raises the cost to the punter towards that of a legacy). Etc.
Air Transat manage to run longhaul (transatlantic) low cost services, reliably £100 less than BA and Air Canada. On TS you get free checked bag and a hot meal, but they are able to save money by using older aeroplanes which have very low acquisition costs, very high density seating, and a very spartan interior (no entertainment etc). They run irregular schedules (like Allegient), really catering to demand so every flight is full. I am a big fan actually, and they pull off a trick very few LCCs survive at.
fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz