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Air Asia X Returns To LGW  
User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1461 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9861 times:

Has there ever been a case of where an airline quits a route, only to return a couple of weeks later ?

The question concerns Air Asia X which recently announced it would cease flying between KUL, ORY and LGW at the end of March.

But seemingly there are so many passengers which it cannot rebook onto other carriers because of lack of availability near to Easter that, in an unusual move, Air Asia X is reinstating flights to LGW on two dates in April: the 14th and the 16th. Flights on both dates are displayed on its website and are open for booking.

I assume that these two flights have been slot-approved by LGW ?

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User currently offlineraffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9714 times:

That is very bizarre. I wonder how many people couldn't be rebooked - obviously not enough to fill an A330!


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User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9588 times:

I suppose Air Asia X would try, in the first instance, to protect its pax with MAS. Other alternative (bear in mind that MAS has a monopoly of KUL-London from April 1) carriers might be too expensive or not have the capacity.

User currently offlineual777uk From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9546 times:

I suspect they are all QPR fans and Tony doesn't want to cheese them off!  

User currently offlineraffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 9186 times:

I must say that whenever I checked their fares, I didn't find them very competitive. The difference between them and MH was minimal & for the added benefit of increased leg room, complimentary food, beverages, entertainment etc, MH was the better choice.

How many low cost long haul routes does actually leave now? Must be true what people say, the long haul low cost does not work..



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User currently onlineshankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1540 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 8797 times:

Quoting raffik (Reply 4):
Must be true what people say, the long haul low cost does not work..

Cebu obviously haven't heard the "people" talking

I think this is actually quite an honourable stance by Air Asia X. Their co-operation agreement with MAS provided that MAS take-on the advanced bookings on this now defunct route. There is clearly an Easter blip and its good to see an airline honouring its comitment to passengers



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User currently onlinegilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3003 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6628 times:

Bit of a misleading thread...

The title makes it sound like the airline is re-instating the route. Obviously not and just adding a couple of additional frequencies added, before the routes does get the chop.


User currently offlinefiscal From Australia, joined Oct 2009, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6540 times:

Sounds like a sensible thing to do, if remaining seat capacity is low, or if seat costs too high. Good on Air Asia X for using their own aircraft to mop up the remains.

I am just glad that I booked a seat selection on my MAS trip to the UK just after Easter.


User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9503 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6252 times:

Do they interline with any of the other airlines serving the route? Many low cost carriers do not. If they don't interline and have no agreements with some of the other airlines, then they are stuck paying published fares for the route. I am guessing that with how high the published fares are, it is cheaper to operate the route on a few select dates.

Quoting raffik (Reply 1):


That is very bizarre. I wonder how many people couldn't be rebooked - obviously not enough to fill an A330!

I don't think it is the case of lack of seats, but rather lack of seats at prices that Air Asia X is willing to pay or interline agreements with airlines.



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User currently offlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8060 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4032 times:

Quoting raffik (Reply 4):
How many low cost long haul routes does actually leave now? Must be true what people say, the long haul low cost does not work..

It doesn't work brilliantly because there are fewer areas where costs can be cut - shorthaul LCCs can save money compared to legacies by flying to smaller fields (but you can't land a widebody at some remote spot with a tin shed for a terminal); by getting more flights a day out of one aircraft (but longhaul aircraft at legacy airlines have high utilisation rates anyway); by charging for meals (but people need food on a seven plus hour leg, whereas it's optional on a London to Amsterdam); by charging for bags (but people are more likely to be going away for enough time that they need to check a bag, so like food, a much higher percentage of punters will need to use this service, which, again, raises the cost to the punter towards that of a legacy). Etc.

Air Transat manage to run longhaul (transatlantic) low cost services, reliably £100 less than BA and Air Canada. On TS you get free checked bag and a hot meal, but they are able to save money by using older aeroplanes which have very low acquisition costs, very high density seating, and a very spartan interior (no entertainment etc). They run irregular schedules (like Allegient), really catering to demand so every flight is full. I am a big fan actually, and they pull off a trick very few LCCs survive at.



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