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Interesting Flightplans Into IND

as739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5819 posts, RR: 23
Posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2738 times:

So what gives with these deviated flightplans flying into IND? There appears to be no weather issue's and no active TFR's.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N140WW

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE918

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI8421

"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"

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NKOPS From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2544 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2653 times:

Superbowl weekend in IND.. they probably see 4x the normal traffic so they do deviations to line up arrivals... IND actually had a GDP yesterday due to traffic volume even though weather was perfect

I DO NOT work for NK

rscaife1682 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2328 times:

These were the route restriction into IND over the weekend.

http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publi...ons/notices/2012-01-12/SP11035.cfm

RYAN

as739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5819 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2247 times:

Quoting rscaife1682 (Reply 2):

That's a TFR that is expired when these flight's were active.

Quoting NKOPS (Reply 1):

Understandable, but this was Monday morning an arrivals. This would have been when the airport was busy with departures. But looking at N140WW, that's one hell of a long flight for SDF-IND

"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"

rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6143 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2174 times:

While there are two restricted airspace areas between SDF and IND - it looks like the aircraft are being sent wide of the several MOA in that area.

Don't know why, and they should not restrict high altitude jets - but it seems to me that is the area being kept free of those aircraft.

What about other flights? Were they normal, or a similar pattern?

as739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5819 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2083 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 4):

Looks like just the arrivals from the SE.

An active MOA...that makes sense. Didn't even think to look at that in the area. Thanks as always fields!

"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"

MSJYOP28Apilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1928 times:

They are Super Bowl volume re-routes. Normally, those flights you listed would file their arrival route as IIU DECEE4 arrival. However, for Super Bowl volume ATC requested south departures and no SID filings and for pilots and dispatchers to file IIU as their initial departure fix. In order to prevent arrival flow and departure flow from conflicting, ATC issued tactical re-routes both published and unpublished for flight thats normally file the arrivals such as IIU DECEE4 to transitions on other arrivals such as PXV RACYR1 and ROD CLANG5.

ATC does this all the time at major hub airports. ATC calls it offloading during normal ops. When one fix becomes constrained, ATC simply sends traffic to other less constrained fixes. In the summer, I had a CLT-JFK flight I filed MERIL4 MERIL RDU J209 ORF J121 SIE CAMRN4. There was a little bit of weather and a lot of JFK volume but no published CDR or playbook re-route but my guys were all given ZAVER2 VXV J43 ROD J29 DORET J584 LVZ LENDY5 by ATC on clearance. A very significant change for the CRJ200 in burn and fuel requirements especially when you have no advanced notice of such a major re-route.

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