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Interesting Flightplans Into IND  
User currently offlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6200 posts, RR: 24
Posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3309 times:

So what gives with these deviated flightplans flying into IND? There appears to be no weather issue's and no active TFR's.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N140WW

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE918

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI8421


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User currently offlineNKOPS From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2710 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3224 times:

Superbowl weekend in IND.. they probably see 4x the normal traffic so they do deviations to line up arrivals... IND actually had a GDP yesterday due to traffic volume even though weather was perfect


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User currently offlinerscaife1682 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2899 times:

These were the route restriction into IND over the weekend.

http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publi...ons/notices/2012-01-12/SP11035.cfm

RYAN


User currently offlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6200 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2818 times:

Quoting rscaife1682 (Reply 2):

That's a TFR that is expired when these flight's were active.

Quoting NKOPS (Reply 1):

Understandable, but this was Monday morning an arrivals. This would have been when the airport was busy with departures. But looking at N140WW, that's one hell of a long flight for SDF-IND



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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2745 times:

While there are two restricted airspace areas between SDF and IND - it looks like the aircraft are being sent wide of the several MOA in that area.

Don't know why, and they should not restrict high altitude jets - but it seems to me that is the area being kept free of those aircraft.

What about other flights? Were they normal, or a similar pattern?


User currently offlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6200 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2654 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 4):

Looks like just the arrivals from the SE.

An active MOA...that makes sense. Didn't even think to look at that in the area. Thanks as always fields!



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User currently offlineMSJYOP28Apilot From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2499 times:

They are Super Bowl volume re-routes. Normally, those flights you listed would file their arrival route as IIU DECEE4 arrival. However, for Super Bowl volume ATC requested south departures and no SID filings and for pilots and dispatchers to file IIU as their initial departure fix. In order to prevent arrival flow and departure flow from conflicting, ATC issued tactical re-routes both published and unpublished for flight thats normally file the arrivals such as IIU DECEE4 to transitions on other arrivals such as PXV RACYR1 and ROD CLANG5.

ATC does this all the time at major hub airports. ATC calls it offloading during normal ops. When one fix becomes constrained, ATC simply sends traffic to other less constrained fixes. In the summer, I had a CLT-JFK flight I filed MERIL4 MERIL RDU J209 ORF J121 SIE CAMRN4. There was a little bit of weather and a lot of JFK volume but no published CDR or playbook re-route but my guys were all given ZAVER2 VXV J43 ROD J29 DORET J584 LVZ LENDY5 by ATC on clearance. A very significant change for the CRJ200 in burn and fuel requirements especially when you have no advanced notice of such a major re-route.


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