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Aeromexico Applies For MEX-MCO  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25786 posts, RR: 50
Posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2917 times:

The scheduling department at Aeromexico is busy again, today applying with the DOT to commence proposed service between Mexico City and Orlando Florida.

Aeromexico while not providing a proposed start up date, or schedule proposes to link the cities using Boeing 737-700 equipment.

OST-2012-0020


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User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 1000 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2896 times:
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First AeroMexico announcement in quite a while. good luck to them

User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3160 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2855 times:

How long would this one last before they discontinue it as part of their revolving door of new routes?

SEA-MEX sure came and went quietly.


User currently onlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3713 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2804 times:

Don't they fly that already?

User currently offlinemcogator From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2785 times:

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 3):
Don't they fly that already?

They do, as does Delta. Maybe the topic starter meant a different city.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25786 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2758 times:

Application dated today says:

"By this application, Aeromexico seeks an exemption to engage in scheduled, combination service in the Mexico City-Orlando market. "



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User currently offlinerojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2469 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2753 times:

10FEB MEX-MCO AM436 11:40 - 15:35 738

User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3045 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2747 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
Quoting C010T3 (Reply 3):
Quoting mcogator (Reply 4):

The application is just a renewal of exemption.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25786 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2714 times:

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 7):
The application is just a renewal of exemption.

Renewal would say "renewal".


While maybe a clerical error on behalf of AM, this was not filed as a renewal, and statements in various places in the document make this to be a new application.



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User currently offlinemcogator From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2690 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 8):
Renewal would say "renewal".


While maybe a clerical error on behalf of AM, this was not filed as a renewal, and statements in various places in the document make this to be a new application.

Could it be for a second daily?


User currently offlineRookinla From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 307 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2685 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 2):
How long would this one last before they discontinue it as part of their revolving door of new routes?

My guess is that it will probably last for some time as they have been flying this route for years.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 8):
Renewal would say "renewal".


While maybe a clerical error on behalf of AM, this was not filed as a renewal, and statements in various places in the document make this to be a new application.

It could be an error in wording but they are currently flying this route 9X weekly...sometimes 10.


User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3045 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2579 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 8):
Renewal would say "renewal".


While maybe a clerical error on behalf of AM, this was not filed as a renewal, and statements in various places in the document make this to be a new application.

It may not say renewal in the application itself, but it says renewal in the document details page on regulations.gov of this document in the details tab:

Application of Aerovias de Mexico, S.A. de C.V. requesting renewal of its exemption to the extent necessary to permit Aeromexico to engage in scheduled foreign air transportation of persons, property, and mail between Mexico City, Mexico and Orlando, Florida.

Quoting mcogator (Reply 9):

Could it be for a second daily?

They don't need to apply to add frequencies on routes they operate.

Quoting Rookinla (Reply 10):
It could be an error in wording but they are currently flying this route 9X weekly...sometimes 10.

It probably is an error.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25786 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2361 times:

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 11):
It may not say renewal in the application itself, but it says renewal in the document details page on regulations.gov of this document in the details tab:

We must be reading different things...

I'm looking at the pdf and no where does it have the word renewal.

" Pursuant to 49 U.S.C. § 40109(c), Aerovias de Mexico, S.A. de C.V.
("Aeromexico") respectfully requests an exemption from the provisions of 49
U.S.C. § 41301 to the extent necessary to permit Aeromexico to engage in
scheduled foreign air transportation of persons, property, and mail between
Mexico City, Mexico and Orlando, Florida. "


Even under document title says:

"APPLICATION OF AEROVIAS DE MEXICO, S.A. DE C.V. FOR AN EXEMPTION"

Not renewal.


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User currently offlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3045 posts, RR: 29
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2173 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 12):
I'm looking at the pdf and no where does it have the word renewal.

It's not in the pdf file, its on the page where you get into the pdf file. the area with the plus sign that says Show Detail. You should see this:

Abstract: Application of Aerovias de Mexico, S.A. de C.V. requesting renewal of its exemption to the extent necessary to permit Aeromexico to engage in scheduled foreign air transportation of persons, property, and mail between Mexico City, Mexico and Orlando, Florida.
Document Subtype: Application-Other
Status: Posted
Received Date: February 08 2012, at 12:00 AM Eastern Standard Time
Date Posted: February 08 2012, at 12:00 AM Eastern Standard Time
Author/ Document Date: February 08 2012, at 12:00 AM Eastern Standard Time
Comment Start Date: February 08 2012, at 12:00 AM Eastern Standard Time
Answer Date: 2/23/2012
Page Count: 1
First Name: John
Middle Name: R.
Last Name: Mietus, Jr.
Mailing Address: Law Office of John Mietus, LLC
Mailing Address 2: 6701 Democracy Boulevard, Suite 300
City: Bethesda
Country: United States
State or Province: MD
Postal Code: 20817-7500
Organization Name: Aerovias de Mexico, S.A. de C.V.


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2025 times:

Quoting mcogator (Reply 9):
Could it be for a second daily?

They fly it 2 times a day a couple days a week, sometimes fly 3 times daily.

Flt 436 is their daily
434 is their additional
442 is their sometimes 3rd flight

Around Christmas and summer they fly up to 5-6 times on Saturdays as well as to other Mexican cities for cruise charters


User currently offlineghost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5224 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1839 times:

Aeroméxico flew MCO all year long and even had a record number of passengers in it's history.

Here you can check the numbers:

http://www.flyapm.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=165&start=68

134,425 pax within 1390 flights including schedule and charter flights and with an approximate load factor of 97 passengers.

g77



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25786 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1574 times:

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 13):
It's not in the pdf file, its on the page where you get into the pdf file. the area with the plus sign that says Show Detail. You should see this:

Thanks for the lesson on the US Govt website, however I do not utilize it. I receive the applications directly being on the distribution list.

In this case, AM's representatives clearly misfiled and misstated their intent on their submitted application.



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