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AC L1011 Retirement And Temporary Redeployment?  
User currently offlineLhrRampRats From UK - England, joined Apr 2010, 54 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6842 times:

Watching an old video on the net of an Air Canada L1011 (C-FTND), i read the description which said Air Canada retired all their TriStars and then reactivated FTND along with 2 or 3 others and painted them in the new colors (dark tail, all white fuselage) Im guessing it got stored wearing the Red livery?. They lasted only around a year before returning them to storage. There is no date to the video.

If true why did they do this and has any other airline retired an a/c type then later
bring it back into service??

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User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 3174 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6704 times:
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They were brought back by Hollis Harris & Co. to cover for delays in receiving the 767-300s or some such, depends who's version you believe.


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User currently offlineCF-CPI From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 1395 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5873 times:

The date was approximately 1994. I believe they were used mostly on YYZ-LAX, perhaps some other routes. As I recall, they were configured in a 7-abreast Business Class + 9-across economy.

User currently offlineauroralives From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5787 times:

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 1):
they were used mostly on YYZ-LAX, perhaps some other routes

I definitely flew YYZ-FRA on one back in that time...


User currently offlinebmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2941 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5753 times:

Just to confirm these were the older L-1011-100's (first delivery 1973); not the newer L-1011-500's? (most were sold to DL)


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User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 6004 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5715 times:

Three were taken from the desert in the mid to late 1990s.

C-FTND a -1

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C-FTNL and C-FTNG two -100/150s

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They were originally deployed LAX-YYZ-YVR-

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User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3895 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5701 times:

The only one I hadn't seen was the one they didn't bring back, C-FTNF, bit of a dog apparently.

User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 6004 posts, RR: 43
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5687 times:

I see the crappy edit function is still (not) working. To finish the above:

The aircraft were configured in a 54J 2x2x2, and 184Y 2x5x2. With the high J cabin capacity, they were deployed on high J routes like YYZ-LAX-YYZ and YYZ-YVR-YYZ. As noted above, the -100/150s sometimes were put on the Atlantic with equipment substitutions.



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User currently offlineflylku From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 939 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5131 times:

This thread reminds me that just recently I was wondering what airport in the world gets the most L1011 traffic today.


...are we there yet?
User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3895 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4833 times:

Easy. RAF Brize Norton with nine based aircraft with 216SQ RAF.

User currently onlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 9119 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3195 times:

Think that 1 (ZD949?) is stored at Marshalls in Cambridge.

User currently offlineLhrRampRats From UK - England, joined Apr 2010, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2586 times:

Quoting longhauler (Reply 5):

Spot on,
Should of mentioned the video was at LAX!!


User currently offlineAirNovaBAe146 From Canada, joined Jun 2008, 395 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2519 times:

In his book (Straight From the Top) about his era at Air Canada, Robert Milton says he was instrumental in this, that AC was using the wrong a/c at the time for the route and that him bringin the L1011s out of the desert made them loads of money on those routes (YYZ - LAX/YVR).

User currently offlinedash500 From Portugal, joined May 2005, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2493 times:

Those redeployed AC L-1011s used to make some maintenance works at Lisbon (TAP's MRO) as well as Royal Airlines' did. I have some collecting stuff from that time.


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User currently offlineaircanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2062 times:

When I heard AC bringing back L1011s I told my dad he should fly them and so he did for awhile until the plane were no longer in needed.

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